Whether it's your first Bonnaroo or you’re a music festival veteran, we welcome you to Inforoo.
Here you'll find info about artists, rumors, camping tips, and the infamous Roo Clues. Have a look around then create an account and join in the fun. See you at Bonnaroo!!
Hmmm... just on the doorstep of the election, a tell-all about "the factors that have and continue to impede our national response to a devastating health and economic catastrophe." I'm sure 45's going to react calmly and gracefully to the news...
So Cuomo is going to be able to claim he was successful against COVID when he totally failed, for his entire life huh
The fact that he is opening up schools at the same time as signing book deals about "how amazing I dealt with COVID" really rubs me the wrong way
Hmmm... just on the doorstep of the election, a tell-all about "the factors that have and continue to impede our national response to a devastating health and economic catastrophe." I'm sure 45's going to react calmly and gracefully to the news...
So Cuomo is going to be able to claim he was successful against COVID when he totally failed, for his entire life huh
The fact that he is opening up schools at the same time as signing book deals about "how amazing I dealt with COVID" really rubs me the wrong way
Our statewide infection rate is between 0.5 and 0.7. We are averaging like six deaths a day in a population of over eight million.
Students are going in at 50% capacity, half are going two days and the other half are going the other two days with Wednesdays virtual for all. Temps are checked when they get on the bus and when they arrive at school. Desks are six feet apart and - at least at my kid's school - are surrounded in plexiglass. Masks are required. They are eating meals in their classrooms. Only one class at a time is allowed to use the fitness facilities for lunch, gym, etc.
I'm not happy that they're going back to school either (and if I could stay at home and do remote I would take that option) but they are doing it right. Through all phases of reopening (and we still have not reopened some types of facilities) they have done so in a way that has not lead to a spike.
He did not 'totally fail' against Covid. The state got hit hard in early days when they were told to brace for an influx of cases from China and got hit with cases from Europe. NYC made it ridiculously hard to contain just based on the population density but the state took the measures it needed to to react and stop the spread.
I was never a fan of Cuomo but he stepped up in this situation. He communicated what was going on to the public and was able do - thus far at least - pretty definitively flatten the curve.
Post by ilovethisgame on Aug 18, 2020 10:46:34 GMT -5
Welp...another coworker that I worked with last Thursday (and who started showing symptoms/got tested on Friday) just got a positive test result; so I get to get tested for the third time. I've said this before, but it just feels like a matter of when, not if I get it.
So Cuomo is going to be able to claim he was successful against COVID when he totally failed, for his entire life huh
The fact that he is opening up schools at the same time as signing book deals about "how amazing I dealt with COVID" really rubs me the wrong way
Our statewide infection rate is between 0.5 and 0.7. We are averaging like six deaths a day in a population of over eight million.
Students are going in at 50% capacity, half are going two days and the other half are going the other two days with Wednesdays virtual for all. Temps are checked when they get on the bus and when they arrive at school. Desks are six feet apart and - at least at my kid's school - are surrounded in plexiglass. Masks are required. They are eating meals in their classrooms. Only one class at a time is allowed to use the fitness facilities for lunch, gym, etc.
I'm not happy that they're going back to school either (and if I could stay at home and do remote I would take that option) but they are doing it right. Through all phases of reopening (and we still have not reopened some types of facilities) they have done so in a way that has not lead to a spike.
He did not 'totally fail' against Covid. The state got hit hard in early days when they were told to brace for an influx of cases from China and got hit with cases from Europe. NYC made it ridiculously hard to contain just based on the population density but the state took the measures it needed to to react and stop the spread.
I was never a fan of Cuomo but he stepped up in this situation. He communicated what was going on to the public and was able do - thus far at least - pretty definitively flatten the curve.
I think that there should be a lot of praise for the new yorkers specifically and how they have kept the virus down since the peak, but many cities are denser and have fared better than New York City.
New York City: 23k COVID deaths Madrid: 8.4k Rome: 874 London: 228
Madison Square Garden was one of the last venues that had events going on in the country. I had to call my dad and convince him not to go to a show at MSG by the time that DC and San Fransisco's governments had already mandated large venues close.
Our statewide infection rate is between 0.5 and 0.7. We are averaging like six deaths a day in a population of over eight million.
Students are going in at 50% capacity, half are going two days and the other half are going the other two days with Wednesdays virtual for all. Temps are checked when they get on the bus and when they arrive at school. Desks are six feet apart and - at least at my kid's school - are surrounded in plexiglass. Masks are required. They are eating meals in their classrooms. Only one class at a time is allowed to use the fitness facilities for lunch, gym, etc.
I'm not happy that they're going back to school either (and if I could stay at home and do remote I would take that option) but they are doing it right. Through all phases of reopening (and we still have not reopened some types of facilities) they have done so in a way that has not lead to a spike.
He did not 'totally fail' against Covid. The state got hit hard in early days when they were told to brace for an influx of cases from China and got hit with cases from Europe. NYC made it ridiculously hard to contain just based on the population density but the state took the measures it needed to to react and stop the spread.
I was never a fan of Cuomo but he stepped up in this situation. He communicated what was going on to the public and was able do - thus far at least - pretty definitively flatten the curve.
I think that there should be a lot of praise for the new yorkers specifically and how they have kept the virus down since the peak, but many cities are denser and have fared better than New York City.
New York City: 23k COVID deaths Madrid: 8.4k Rome: 874 London: 228
Madison Square Garden was one of the last venues that had events going on in the country. I had to call my dad and convince him not to go to a show at MSG by the time that DC and San Fransisco's governments had already mandated large venues close.
Keep in mind that every other city you listed there is located in a country that had at least *some* form of federally coordinated response. NYC? Not so much. Plus, something like Rome is a very different case, given that Italy's early epicenter was on the other side of the country. NYC *was* the US's early epicenter.
I mean, don't get me wrong - I think both Cuomo and de Blasio dragged their feet early on, and it cost us. I think that, once Cuomo did act, though, he acted decisively, intelligently, and transparently, most of which can't be said for a lot of other governors in this country. Plus, acknowledging early the reality that this was not just a state-by-state problem, he coordinated a regional response with other northeastern governors, especially when it came to the acquisition of ventilators and PPE, which was a really good move.
So, I think it's possible to hold both of those thoughts in our heads at the same time: It would have been a lot better, and saved some lives, if Cuomo and de Blasio had acted sooner. Once the governor did act, though, he acted well, and that has probably saved some lives and kept our infection rate low through several phases of reopening/while several other states have gone to shit.
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount 9/13 - Lucius/The War on Drugs/The National @ Forest Hills 9/19 - Stars @ Music Hall of Williamsburg
Everyone is eager to know when the coronavirus crisis will be over, and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates has an idea. But his estimate varies based on whether you live in the developing world or in wealthier countries such as the United States.
"The innovation pipeline on scaling up diagnostics, on new therapeutics, on vaccines is actually quite impressive," Gates told Wired magazine in an interview published Friday. "And that makes me feel like, for the rich world, we should largely be able to end this thing by the end of 2021, and for the world at large by the end of 2022."
Gates, who funds medical research and vaccine programs through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, is no Pollyanna. He's well aware that even if his prediction comes to pass, the outbreak has set countries of all sizes back years as far as economic growth and progress in fighting malaria, polio and HIV.
In the interview, Gates has harsh words for the US testing system, and airs his frustrations with how President Donald Trump and his administration have dealt with the situation. This isn't new -- Gates hasn't been afraid to speak out about the US response to the virus, telling CNN the high number of coronavirus cases in the US is due to lack of testing and contact tracing, as well as resistance to wear face masks. Gates himself has been a target for conspiracy theories and falsehoods about the virus.
But Gates does believe a vaccine eventually will be created, noting that due to scale and manufacturing issues, some of the vaccines under development are likely to only help in wealthier countries.
"It's because of innovation that you don't have to contemplate an even sadder statement, which is this thing will be raging for five years until natural immunity is our only hope," Gates said. "This disease, from both the animal data and the phase 1 data, seems to be very vaccine-preventable."
As far as treatment for those who already have the disease, Gates spoke highly of the antiviral medication remdesivir and the corticosteroid dexamethasone.
"Other antivirals are two to three months away," he said. "Antibodies are two to three months away. We've had about a factor-of-two improvement in hospital outcomes already, and that's with just remdesivir and dexamethasone. These other things will be additive to that."
i'm guessing by "late 2021" he means June 17-20, 2021.
there is also some potentially positive news about herd immunity maybe being closer than we think in some areas. and it may only take a 50% infection rate, as opposed to 70-80%.
Post by crazykittensmile on Aug 18, 2020 15:44:18 GMT -5
San Diego is off the state watchlist, and I'm having the hardest time figuring out wtf that means. If things are opening back up that seems very counterintuitive to me... Hopefully it doesn't mean that.
San Diego is off the state watchlist, and I'm having the hardest time figuring out wtf that means. If things are opening back up that seems very counterintuitive to me... Hopefully it doesn't mean that.
"San Diego County has officially been removed from the state's COVID-19 monitoring list, a county official confirmed shortly after noon Tuesday, setting in motion a 14-day countdown that could see K-12 students back in the classroom as soon as Sept. 1, depending on the guidance of individual school districts.
The announcement follows six straight days of San Diego County public health officials reporting a case rate of fewer than 100 positive COVID-19 tests per 100,000 people.
The move's effect on businesses was unclear. The county was expecting some guidance from the state in that area later Tuesday.
The county will be placed back on the list should it be flagged for exceeding any one of six different metrics for three consecutive days. Those metrics are the case rate, the percentage of positive tests, the average number of tests a county is able to perform daily, changes in the number of hospitalized patients and the percentage of ventilators and intensive care beds available.
San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer announced Tuesday that the city would begin allowing gyms, fitness businesses and places of worship to operate in city parks beginning Monday."
I won't go in a store if faces aren't covered. I fuss about masks under noses. Honestly if I wasn't worried about their germs, I'd fight over masks.
Then don't plan on shopping in NE Ohio, not that you probably were anyway, haha. Most people here finally started wearing masks when they went mandatory a month ago but I still see people without them virtually everywhere. Liquor Control has cited a few bars for serving too late (you can be as stupid as you want at a bar but they can't open dance floors or serve you after 10 PM, because 'Rona only comes out late, I guess), but there's no enforcement otherwise.
I promise I won't throw the first blow but I can't promise you my mouth won't induce a fight with one of these idiots eventually. Do you think I can I insist that a moron gets tested and pays for my test if he physically attacks me? I've watched a lot of UFC and Australian football lately, so I feel tough.
I think that there should be a lot of praise for the new yorkers specifically and how they have kept the virus down since the peak, but many cities are denser and have fared better than New York City.
New York City: 23k COVID deaths Madrid: 8.4k Rome: 874 London: 228
The difference here might be that Madrid, Rome, and London didn't have totally inept national governments (aside from Boris Johnson) telling them that they had nothing to worry about. The strict lockdowns they initiated mitigated spread from the dense international hubs. Although Rome fared comparatively well, Lombardy (Milan, a major travel hub) had a LOT of deaths.
The difference between "we did the best we could given the circumstances" and "here let me write a book about what an amazing job I did" is wide.
I get it, London did relatively well, but if you prioritize one or two data points you can't just discount all others, and there were definitely other factors at play that are hard to account for. I'm not saying NYC or New York State did great, but the Federal government was a handicap rather than the front-line support structure it shouldn't been. London, Tokyo, Rome, and Paris weren't left all on their own without the critical research and support that they depended on form their respective national governments. And how Cuomo had time to write a book, I have no idea, but I won't be buying it.
Right, and the people who are stanning Cuomo tend to single out population density as a catch-all explanation but ignore or dismiss that New York is by no means unique in terms of its population density. Perhaps in the US it is, but the difference in the numbers between NY and other cities in the country and the world is so staggering that, you know, he has no ground to act like an authority. That's all I'm saying here, really.
I only point out London as a singular data point because you yourself admit that it had similar political priors.
I think that there should be a lot of praise for the new yorkers specifically and how they have kept the virus down since the peak, but many cities are denser and have fared better than New York City.
New York City: 23k COVID deaths Madrid: 8.4k Rome: 874 London: 228
The difference here might be that Madrid, Rome, and London didn't have totally inept national governments (aside from Boris Johnson) telling them that they had nothing to worry about. The strict lockdowns they initiated mitigated spread from the dense international hubs. Although Rome fared comparatively well, Lombardy (Milan, a major travel hub) had a LOT of deaths.
Lombardy had 16,840 deaths. Population of 10M compared to 8.5M in NYC. Better than NYC, and the virus got there roughly 10 days before NYC.
Right, and the people who are stanning Cuomo tend to single out population density as a catch-all explanation but ignore or dismiss that New York is by no means unique in terms of its population density. Perhaps in the US it is, but the difference in the numbers between NY and other cities in the country and the world is so staggering that, you know, he has no ground to act like an authority. That's all I'm saying here, really.
I only point out London as a singular data point because you yourself admit that it had similar political priors.
Yikes, I'm sorry you have such an ax to grind with Cuomo. I didn't know it was so personal, so I'll bow out of this one.
Right, and the people who are stanning Cuomo tend to single out population density as a catch-all explanation but ignore or dismiss that New York is by no means unique in terms of its population density. Perhaps in the US it is, but the difference in the numbers between NY and other cities in the country and the world is so staggering that, you know, he has no ground to act like an authority. That's all I'm saying here, really.
I only point out London as a singular data point because you yourself admit that it had similar political priors.
Yikes, I'm sorry you have such an ax to grind with Cuomo. I didn't know it was so personal, so I'll bow out of this one.
How is anything I've said being construed as personal? I'm literally just countering things you've said using the same rationale you're using.