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I bartend mostly outside in the courtyard, but I don't mask inside anymore.
I only recently stopped and I'm still uncomfortable without but slowly getting used to it. It's still a mental issue for me but I don't obsess thinking I have covid after being inside anymore.
Surprisingly same, aside from hoping I have it to stay home. But that's a whole different issue.
If I don't block it out, my anxiety is through the roof. I was stuck in a cycle of grief and worry for the better part of 2 years. Now that my kid is vaccinated I've just had to let it go for my own sanity.
I feel most anxious about covid when I read about the long term damage it does to the body. It worries me because even though I had a very "mild" case last year, I have no idea how this may have affected my organs or what possible health issues this could result in later in life. Also my partner got it far worse than I did and still isn't able to engage in the same physical activity they were before. They've improved for sure but still aren't at pre covid level of health. Even though deaths are pretty few and far between there is an entirely forgotten group of people now possibly permanently disabled by covid. And nothing is being done really to accommodate them. Not to mention the large number of immunocompromised people who still can't go out or live life as they were prepandemic and all of the safer spaces such as online zoom groups etc. going away as we shift back to "normal." Idk while I have essentially gone back to prepandemic life I still try to think of that unseen group who continues to suffer.
To add an addendum to this though the depression I went through in lockdown nearly killed me. I don't think I could ever go through another lockdown after the damage that caused. Not to mention the overarching societal damage it's caused. We are not meant to isolate and live away from other human beings. It's not sustainable. I wouldn't mind mask mandates coming back in a surge but i just dont think I could go without shows for a year and a half again
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Post by xfinitypass on Nov 2, 2022 16:47:41 GMT -5
For me, I’m to the point where I don’t really care if I get sick (especially since I’ve had it before), it’s mostly just worry about giving it to my mother I live with who’s immunocompromised and I’m kinda her only consistent exposure. She got her booster recently thankfully, but she’s sick enough to where it’s no real guarantee of anything. She’s told me not to worry about it and I get it’s not my job to completely sacrifice my mental health for the sake of someone I’m already sacrificing things to help support, but it’s one thing to logically understand and another thing to actually go and do it. Especially with the holiday season coming up and wanting to have a peaceful and healthy holiday season with the family intact.
I did get a long symptom of it, this congestion/post-nasal drip that basically just feels like constantly allergies and makes me kinda go slower when I do cardio, but nothing bad enough where I’d want to lockdown my life to avoid getting it again.
For me, I’m to the point where I don’t really care if I get sick (especially since I’ve had it before), it’s mostly just worry about giving it to my mother I live with who’s immunocompromised and I’m kinda her only consistent exposure. She got her booster recently thankfully, but she’s sick enough to where it’s no real guarantee of anything. She’s told me not to worry about it and I get it’s not my job to completely sacrifice my mental health for the sake of someone I’m already sacrificing things to help support, but it’s one thing to logically understand and another thing to actually go and do it. Especially with the holiday season coming up and wanting to have a peaceful and healthy holiday season with the family intact.
I did get a long symptom of it, this congestion/post-nasal drip that basically just feels like constantly allergies and makes me kinda go slower when I do cardio, but nothing bad enough where I’d want to lockdown my life to avoid getting it again.
I’m going on 3 years of that post-COVID chronic congestion. Have you tried sinus rinsing? The ol’ netti pot has helped it be less annoying for me. To make it even better, if you can get a prescription for it, you can add budesonide (a typically inhaled steroidal anti-inflammatory). That’s what my ENT did for me, and as long as I generally keep up with a twice-daily regimen, it’s not so bad.
Post by Jeremy Jamm on Nov 2, 2022 18:02:39 GMT -5
I care a whole lot less now that I've had it (and recently). Even if it wasn't fun, and if getting it again doesn't guarantee the same experience, I feel like I have more confidence of going through it (again) both physically and mentally. I'll admit, If I had gotten it in 2020-2021 I would have been terrified. I didn't test positive until I was about 2/3 the way through it, so it wasn't even on mind 100% because I thought I was just sick.
For me, I’m to the point where I don’t really care if I get sick (especially since I’ve had it before), it’s mostly just worry about giving it to my mother I live with who’s immunocompromised and I’m kinda her only consistent exposure. She got her booster recently thankfully, but she’s sick enough to where it’s no real guarantee of anything. She’s told me not to worry about it and I get it’s not my job to completely sacrifice my mental health for the sake of someone I’m already sacrificing things to help support, but it’s one thing to logically understand and another thing to actually go and do it. Especially with the holiday season coming up and wanting to have a peaceful and healthy holiday season with the family intact.
I did get a long symptom of it, this congestion/post-nasal drip that basically just feels like constantly allergies and makes me kinda go slower when I do cardio, but nothing bad enough where I’d want to lockdown my life to avoid getting it again.
I’m going on 3 years of that post-COVID chronic congestion. Have you tried sinus rinsing? The ol’ netti pot has helped it be less annoying for me. To make it even better, if you can get a prescription for it, you can add budesonide (a typically inhaled steroidal anti-inflammatory). That’s what my ENT did for me, and as long as I generally keep up with a twice-daily regimen, it’s not so bad.
Will definitely have to look into it, thanks for the idea!
I got sick last week and was pretty sure it was the flu because I kept sneezing and had a fever. The cough didn’t go away and got bad to the point where I went to the doctor and got a Z pack. The doctor assured me I had a sinus infection and was not contagious. Which was weird when the lady got really sick. Decided to take a test and low and behold, I have finally gotten covid after like 200 concerts since this thing started
I’m honestly blown away i havent gotten it a second time after attending prob 250 shows since stuff reopened. Even avoided getting it at coachella despite my partner getting it there a second time. Also avoided getting it in Spain from Theo or Pablo despite them testing positive days after i met each of them. Idk whats given me this dumb luck
Yeah I feel that, a large part of me definitely thinks staying out late on weeknights for a show is just a bad idea in general, I’m really starting to lean more towards going to festivals which don’t interrupt my routine so much. Just hard to go from the go hard mode at a show to sleeping quickly, I don’t know how some people on these forums who go to like 3 shows a week manage to get themselves to their jobs on time every day and do their work without major errors.
A lot of it, for many people, is age-related. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I had no difficulty going to shows three or four nights in a row, getting to sleep at 2 am, and being up and ready to go for school or work the next morning.
Now, two nights in a row is a big challenge. Boston Calling is easier for me, because it's a relatively short trip from where I live (30 min door to door by foot and bus) and if I don't stay for the headliner, and their 2022 headliners were not my cup of tea, I'm out of there by 9 or 9:30 pm.
Some smart artists/concert promoters should experiment with doing weekend matinee shows with artists that appeal to the over 50 crowd. I'd jump on the opportunity to go to a concert that started at 2 pm on a Saturday or Sunday, and ended around 5.
Yeah I feel that, a large part of me definitely thinks staying out late on weeknights for a show is just a bad idea in general, I’m really starting to lean more towards going to festivals which don’t interrupt my routine so much. Just hard to go from the go hard mode at a show to sleeping quickly, I don’t know how some people on these forums who go to like 3 shows a week manage to get themselves to their jobs on time every day and do their work without major errors.
A lot of it, for many people, is age-related. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I had no difficulty going to shows three or four nights in a row, getting to sleep at 2 am, and being up and ready to go for school or work the next morning.
Now, two nights in a row is a big challenge. Boston Calling is easier for me, because it's a relatively short trip from where I live (30 min door to door by foot and bus) and if I don't stay for the headliner, and their 2022 headliners were not my cup of tea, I'm out of there by 9 or 9:30 pm.
Some smart artists/concert promoters should experiment with doing weekend matinee shows with artists that appeal to the over 50 crowd. I'd jump on the opportunity to go to a concert that started at 2 pm on a Saturday or Sunday, and ended around 5.
LOL I'd love that matinee schedule and I'm not close to over 50 yet.
A lot of it, for many people, is age-related. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I had no difficulty going to shows three or four nights in a row, getting to sleep at 2 am, and being up and ready to go for school or work the next morning.
Now, two nights in a row is a big challenge. Boston Calling is easier for me, because it's a relatively short trip from where I live (30 min door to door by foot and bus) and if I don't stay for the headliner, and their 2022 headliners were not my cup of tea, I'm out of there by 9 or 9:30 pm.
Some smart artists/concert promoters should experiment with doing weekend matinee shows with artists that appeal to the over 50 crowd. I'd jump on the opportunity to go to a concert that started at 2 pm on a Saturday or Sunday, and ended around 5.
LOL I'd love that matinee schedule and I'm not close to over 50 yet.
I'm not sure if they're still doing it, but the Middle East in Cambridge, MA has done all-ages weekend afternoon shows over the course of the last 30 years. Mostly punk and emo, but I once saw what was billed as a solo Ted Leo show there years ago, but it turned into a Ted Leo and the Pharmacists show midway through. That was obvious from the start, however, since there was a drum kit and bass amp onstage.
A lot of it, for many people, is age-related. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I had no difficulty going to shows three or four nights in a row, getting to sleep at 2 am, and being up and ready to go for school or work the next morning.
Now, two nights in a row is a big challenge. Boston Calling is easier for me, because it's a relatively short trip from where I live (30 min door to door by foot and bus) and if I don't stay for the headliner, and their 2022 headliners were not my cup of tea, I'm out of there by 9 or 9:30 pm.
Some smart artists/concert promoters should experiment with doing weekend matinee shows with artists that appeal to the over 50 crowd. I'd jump on the opportunity to go to a concert that started at 2 pm on a Saturday or Sunday, and ended around 5.
LOL I'd love that matinee schedule and I'm not close to over 50 yet.
I'm in my mid-20s and still out here wishing shows Sun-Thu would end no later than 10. If I had a full time wfh job I don't think I'd care as much, but I've got a 45 minute commute 3+ times a week I need to be alert for.
I also think I permanently messed up my sleep cycles in college when I refused to schedule classes before 11 am unless I couldn't avoid it. Built me the habit of sleeping 2 or 3 to 10 consistently and several years in corporate later I still struggle to make it into the office doors at 830.
I still wear a mask at work, until I can confirm no one on the main crew is sick. I wear a mask on the subway no matter what - and in stores 95% of the time. I luckily don't criticized for it because they know I would tear into them and they are just assholes who need to feel like things are normal again.
I went to my 4th? bar in 2+ years the other day and I still get nervous to the point I'm using my Midozalam (an anti-seizure medication that also is a nerve settler to the point of habit forming).
I'm very very tired of being looked at as a pariah and strange when I've gotten less sick then most of my peers, I'm very very tired of being told I don't have to wear a mask, and I'm very very tired that my nervous system responds to being in public situations right now in a fear mode.
I'm tired because my own shit therapist puts it on me, to just magically heal, and I've felt the same pressure from friends here. If I'm never "normal" again - I'm sorry - but that's not your call and making me feel like shit for it is just going to have me disconnect further.
I still wear a mask pretty much everywhere. At the few shows I’ve gone to, I usually stay to the outside anyways (ew people!) and once I choose my spot I may take it off depending on crowds. I dunno. It just feels like a very easy thing I can do to feel better about the whole situation.
I still wear a mask pretty much everywhere. At the few shows I’ve gone to, I usually stay to the outside anyways (ew people!) and once I choose my spot I may take it off depending on crowds. I dunno. It just feels like a very easy thing I can do to feel better about the whole situation.
Oh I definitely mask up in a packed venue. For Peaches, which was sold out, we masked up and a girl told us we were brave. My girl that was also masked tested positive the next day. Who was brave? If she didn't mask she could have infected the crowd.
Post by man1cpixiedreamgirl on Nov 19, 2022 11:00:39 GMT -5
Our thanksgiving plans have changed and now we're traveling to see my GF's grandmother instead of our usual Friendsgiving. She's 95. We're going to a party tonight where everyone has to have a proof of negative rapid 24 hours beforehand (and you get a refund if you're positive or not feeling well and can't go). She also figures that if we SOMEHOW get it from tonight, it'll be on the test on Thursday morning.
But now she's (rightfully!) asking me to wear a KN95 to LCD on Tuesday. And has decided not to go. I went to one of the shows last year that wasn't a superspreader but she (rightfully!) is nervous about me getting it at the concert and unintentionally killing her grandma.
When was the last time any of you did that? I haven't masked up in an indoor show period because I avoided indoor shows for a while and kept it to outdoor shows, then this year not masking at all beyond public transit / stores because I'm more likely to get it from work than anywhere else at this point.
Just wearing a mask AND now having to go solo...I dunno, someone talk me into it. It's hard to make crowd friends when you're all masked up in a loud venue.
Post by xfinitypass on Nov 19, 2022 13:23:06 GMT -5
I’ve gone to several indoor shows solo and masked up this year. I don’t mind going to shows solo in general though, so my perspective is probably skewed (I’ve done whole festivals solo). I honestly didn’t find the masking part to hurt the experience at all. It does make it more difficult to try to connect with new people around you (at least in my experience wearing a mask makes my voice really quiet and difficult to hear for those around me), but if you’re content just going alone and taking in the band, it’s fine!
But also, if you think it would make the experience unenjoyable for you, it’s ok to just not go. I’ve skipped way more shows than I care to admit since they started coming back in June 21 (both ones I’d bought tickets for, and ones I didn’t) because I either was still dealing with Covid anxiety or struggling with other socially driven anxiety and not feeling going around people. And I don’t feel much regret about any of them, going to a show when you’re feeling anxiety about being in a crowd really lessens the experience. It might be better to just do something at home you’d enjoy than go to a show where you know you’ll just be worrying not only the whole time of the show but also for days afterwards leading up to going around the elderly family member. I don’t recommend taking the avoidance approach long-term and I’ve personally been doing work to try to overcome the lingering Covid anxiety I have, but for just one show right before a one time family visit, it might have some merit.
Our thanksgiving plans have changed and now we're traveling to see my GF's grandmother instead of our usual Friendsgiving. She's 95. We're going to a party tonight where everyone has to have a proof of negative rapid 24 hours beforehand (and you get a refund if you're positive or not feeling well and can't go). She also figures that if we SOMEHOW get it from tonight, it'll be on the test on Thursday morning.
But now she's (rightfully!) asking me to wear a KN95 to LCD on Tuesday. And has decided not to go. I went to one of the shows last year that wasn't a superspreader but she (rightfully!) is nervous about me getting it at the concert and unintentionally killing her grandma.
When was the last time any of you did that? I haven't masked up in an indoor show period because I avoided indoor shows for a while and kept it to outdoor shows, then this year not masking at all beyond public transit / stores because I'm more likely to get it from work than anywhere else at this point.
Just wearing a mask AND now having to go solo...I dunno, someone talk me into it. It's hard to make crowd friends when you're all masked up in a loud venue.
I masked up in August for Peaches. I work at a music venue, the sold out shows will have about 5% masked up. If the show is packed and there is no way to stay away from people I would mask up still. I think I would still go if I was you.
Post by man1cpixiedreamgirl on Nov 19, 2022 14:03:36 GMT -5
The irony of course is that everyone else visiting Grandma isn't taking any precautions beforehand, but to be fair that IS a lot of people in one room.
Our thanksgiving plans have changed and now we're traveling to see my GF's grandmother instead of our usual Friendsgiving. She's 95. We're going to a party tonight where everyone has to have a proof of negative rapid 24 hours beforehand (and you get a refund if you're positive or not feeling well and can't go). She also figures that if we SOMEHOW get it from tonight, it'll be on the test on Thursday morning.
But now she's (rightfully!) asking me to wear a KN95 to LCD on Tuesday. And has decided not to go. I went to one of the shows last year that wasn't a superspreader but she (rightfully!) is nervous about me getting it at the concert and unintentionally killing her grandma.
When was the last time any of you did that? I haven't masked up in an indoor show period because I avoided indoor shows for a while and kept it to outdoor shows, then this year not masking at all beyond public transit / stores because I'm more likely to get it from work than anywhere else at this point.
Just wearing a mask AND now having to go solo...I dunno, someone talk me into it. It's hard to make crowd friends when you're all masked up in a loud venue.
I was at opening night of the LCD run last night, solo and wearing a full N95 respirator. AMA.
I’ve been masking with an N95 for indoor shows since I started going back to them last year. I’m not going to lie and say it’s the most comfortable experience, but I’m fairly accustomed, now, and so far (touch wood), I haven’t picked something up at a show. It’s a little bit extra challenging at an LCD show because I dance hard, and by the time we get to the end of “All My Friends,” I’ve been jumping up and down for 7 minutes straight and I’m breathing heavy. But still, I walk out a lot less worried about COVID, and that’s a fair trade-off for me.
I can tell you you’ll probably be one of the only people there with a mask - I spotted five or six in the crowd other than me. I’m sure I missed some, but it’s definitely the vast minority. YMMV on that - I really don’t care if I stick out like a sore thumb, but my wife, for example, is a little more self-conscious about it.
I don’t typically try to make friends at concerts when I go solo, but I’m sure you’d do ok, especially if you hew toward the front of the crowd. You can also look in the Reddit sub; it’s pretty active, and there are always folks in there looking to connect with other fans at the shows. I’ve met a few people from there and, so far, they’ve all been chill.
EDITED TO ADD: It’s a kick-ass show, though. Definitely worth the hassle IMO.
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