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Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Apr 30, 2020 14:29:50 GMT -5
What's confusing me is why the fuck is Jortles already in the group? If you think it's an honest mistake, then the three is Rooloo/Jortles/me. If it's meant to frame me, Jortles might be in on it and he's already in the group, making it Rooloo/Jortles/???.
Smells super desperate. Not sure if this makes me feel any better being on Jortles, I tend to think shit just gets flung when people do stuff like this.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Bear with me for a second, because I know this is going to sound Mafia-esque, but I think if the Inspector does NOT have Rooloo's name, they should come out now. In that scenario, the Inspector knows two Mafia (let's say the given name is Jortles), so if they come out they get to give us Jortles's name and then we get more clarification from the Inspector in D2. We're lynching a Mafia in D1, so if the Inspector comes forward as long as the Doctor saves them we know they're gonna survive the night. Because either the Doctor gets whacked and the Inspector doesn't, or the Inspector is attempted whacked but saved, or a vanilla townie dies - there's no risk in the Inspector dying (unless the Doctor doesn't save them). Over Night 1 the Inspector guesses the third Mafia (Theo). Then we'll either know that Rooloo's goof was genuine, or if it was intentional and Rooloo/Jortles are up to shenanigans.
Now say I advocate for this and a Mafia fakes as Inspector. That's okay, because the real Inspector (who has Jortles's name, and comes out with it) is still alive. Now whether the Doctor saves the real or the fake one, it doesn't matter. Scenarios:
1. The Mafia whack real Inspector: A. Doctor saves real Inspector, who then gives us clarity on Theo in D2. B. Doctor saves fake Inspector, so real Inspector dies and we know to lynch Jortles.
2. The Mafia whack their own (unlikely): A. Doctor saves real Inspector, so now the Mafia are down 2 going into D2 and the real Inspector gives us clarity on Theo. 2. Doctor saves the fake Inspector, then we end up with two Inspectors, one of which will give clarity on Theo. One will be lying about Theo. Either way, we lynch Jortles and Theo, and then if the game is still going, we know the fake Inspector is the third Mafia. (Or they both say Theo is town, and now the Mafia have two people they have to keep alive to continue the lie: confirmed townie Theo and the real Inspector).
In all of these scenarios, we end up knowing two Mafia and whether or not the third implicated (Theo in this example) is Mafia.
Worst case in all of this is the real Inspector has Rooloo's name and a Mafia fakes claiming either Theo or Jortles. In this case the real Inspector will now know Rooloo and whoever the person faking is, and this would also mean the Mafia risks having a Mafia down and a fake Inspector out in the game with a Target on their back. I mean shit we just have to do Rooloo-Theo-Jortles-Faker and we guaranteed a Day 5.
There are probably holes in this startegy but I tried to go down the different avenues this could play out.
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Apr 30, 2020 14:40:00 GMT -5
Ok, inspector, PLEASE look at me tonight and confirm I'm town. If an inspector comes out tomorrow and calls me mafia, we'd have at least 2, maybe 3 mafia confirmed either way. This is the best way to help the town get the most info possible. A D2 inspector reveal would hopefully keep them alive until D3, because the doctor can protect them.
Bear with me for a second, because I know this is going to sound Mafia-esque, but I think if the Inspector does NOT have Rooloo's name, they should come out now. In that scenario, the Inspector knows two Mafia (let's say the given name is Jortles), so if they come out they get to give us Jortles's name and then we get more clarification on Theo from the Inspector in D2. We're lynching a known Mafia in D1, so if the Inspector comes forward as long as the Doctor saves them we know they're gonna survive the night. Because either the Doctor gets whacked and the Inspector doesn't, or the Inspector is attempted whacked but saved, or a vanilla townie dies - there's no risk in the Inspector dying (unless the Doctor doesn't save them). Over Night 1 the Inspector guesses the third Mafia (Theo). Then we'll either know that Rooloo's goof was genuine, or if it was intentional and Rooloo/Jortles are up to shenanigans.
Now say I advocate for this and a Mafia fakes as Inspector. That's okay, because the real Inspector (who has Jortles's name, and comes out with it) is still alive. Now whether the Doctor saves the real or the fake one, it doesn't matter. Scenarios:
1. The Mafia submit to whack real Inspector: A. Doctor saves real Inspector, who then gives us clarity on Theo in D2. We know two Mafia and two Town (Theo and real Inspector), or that Theo is the third. Either way, we get to Day 5. B. Doctor saves fake Inspector, so real Inspector dies and we know to lynch Jortles, and that the fake Inspector is the third. Win.
2. The Mafia submit to whack their own (unlikely): A. Doctor saves real Inspector, so now the Mafia are down 2 going into D2 and the real Inspector gives us clarity on Theo. We get to Day 5. 2. Doctor saves the fake Inspector, then we end up with two Inspectors, one of which will give clarity on Theo. One will be lying about Theo. Either way, we lynch Jortles and Theo, and then if the game is still going, we know the fake Inspector is the third Mafia. (Or they both say Theo is town, and now the Mafia have two people they have to keep alive to continue the lie: confirmed townie Theo and the real Inspector).
In all of these scenarios, we end up knowing two Mafia and whether or not the third implicated (Theo in this example) is Mafia. In all of them we either win or get to Day 5.
Worst case in all of this is the real Inspector has Rooloo's name and a Mafia fakes claiming either Theo or Jortles. In this case the real Inspector will now know Rooloo and whoever the person faking is, and this would also mean the Mafia risks having a Mafia down and a fake Inspector out in the game with a Target on their back. I mean shit we would just have to do Rooloo-Theo-Jortles-Faker and we guaranteed a Day 5.
There are probably holes in this startegy but I tried to go down the different avenues this could play out.
Added some things for clarity. I should edit first next time.
Post by potentpotables on Apr 30, 2020 14:49:36 GMT -5
Does it not concern anyone that we supposedly got 2 of 4 mafia in the D1 runoff? That doesn't happen often. I also feel personally uncomfortable because when Kanye and Danbob were arguing, I spoke up and said I thought Rooloo v. Jortles made the most sense. Both are mafia? I don't know what to make of that.
Does it not concern anyone that we supposedly got 2 of 4 mafia in the D1 runoff? That doesn't happen often. I also feel personally uncomfortable because when Kanye and Danbob were arguing, I spoke up and said I thought Rooloo v. Jortles made the most sense. Both are mafia? I don't know what to make of that.
I noticed that too, I need to look back and try to understand the vote switches that happened around then.
Does it not concern anyone that we supposedly got 2 of 4 mafia in the D1 runoff? That doesn't happen often. I also feel personally uncomfortable because when Kanye and Danbob were arguing, I spoke up and said I thought Rooloo v. Jortles made the most sense. Both are mafia? I don't know what to make of that.
Does it not concern anyone that we supposedly got 2 of 4 mafia in the D1 runoff? That doesn't happen often. I also feel personally uncomfortable because when Kanye and Danbob were arguing, I spoke up and said I thought Rooloo v. Jortles made the most sense. Both are mafia? I don't know what to make of that.
Would make sense as to why Rooloo did it then. Would also make sense as to why Jortles said maybe only one is mafia and the other is townie (Jortles mafia trying to frame Theo and also make himself seem town). And would also make sense that that's why Jortles doesn't seem to think it was Rooloo's own idea (Jortles own idea).
