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Post by Nathan Fieldcяab on Jul 19, 2020 9:59:25 GMT -5
Had been thinking about making a Gaga one myself for a bit, that looks great though.
Tool is one where I don't think the chronological approach works as well: having Opiate and Prison Sex be the first Tool songs I heard would probably skew my expectations of the band/turn me off from them a bit.
Had been thinking about making a Gaga one myself for a bit, that looks great though.
Tool is one where I don't think the chronological approach works as well: having Opiate and Prison Sex be the first Tool songs I heard would probably skew my expectations of the band/turn me off from them a bit.
Changed it to be more like a setlist they would play.
Had been thinking about making a Gaga one myself for a bit, that looks great though.
Tool is one where I don't think the chronological approach works as well: having Opiate and Prison Sex be the first Tool songs I heard would probably skew my expectations of the band/turn me off from them a bit.
Had been thinking about making a Gaga one myself for a bit, that looks great though.
Tool is one where I don't think the chronological approach works as well: having Opiate and Prison Sex be the first Tool songs I heard would probably skew my expectations of the band/turn me off from them a bit.
Opiate is so fucking good wtf
I should've phrased more clearly: I don't think either of those are "bad" songs, just not particularly indicative of the sort of stuff they're most famous for (and probably weaker than their high points imo)
Post by Nathan Fieldcяab on Jul 20, 2020 16:47:45 GMT -5
Missing Faster but super good otherwise... I like Screwed as well if you wanted to make it an even 20. Love opening with War of the Roses > Dance Apocalyptic
Just noticed now every playlist is in the OP... that makes things much easier than scrolling through the thread finding the playlists lol. Thanks for that!
One of the most consistently good indie rock bands over the last 20 years, here is a spoon primer.
I went chronological, because I think it does a good job of showing their transition from 3-piece Texas rock band that wanted to be Wire to adding a piano player, using synths and vibraphones, and getting more experimental sounds and working with Dave Friddmann (Mercury rev, Flaming Lips, MGMT). They do a lot with relatively "simple" songs - great hooks and riffs, Britt Daniel's surpsingly large vocal range and mix of emotional vulnerability and sometimes wry humor. They've put out 9 studio albums, and all but their debut are pretty equally represented here. This is a dope band and i'd say that even if they weren't from the same small texas town as my in-laws or didn't write a cool song about my hometown (can I sit next to you)
I Could See The Dude, The Agony of Laffitte, and All The Negatives Have Been Destroyed are all solid early songs that should be on here. Laffitte in particular, as it’s the song about getting dropped from their first label and changing their sound from Pixies knock-off to the modern format.
added, just for you bby. though I do think the laffitt songs aren't necessarily essential for a "get to know spoon's music", and the whole drama with the A&R man is kinda getting into the weeds. sure it's important but spoon hits their stride on MERGE anyway.
And then we're into "just listen to the live stuff" era of the dead. Godchaux had left and was replaced with Brent Mydland. He was arguably the best overall keyboardist/singer the dead ever had, he was just there in the 80's, and 80's dead suffers from what everyone in the 80's did - a little bit too much cheese. The highlights are here, and none of them are bad songs, but there is steady decline in quality studio output in the 80's, and their last offical album, Built to Last in 88, was...meh. By this point in their career they had become a live band, and their studio output wasn't indicative of their shows. so...typical jam band?
Gonna pick on snowmanomura again here. I think you’re criminally underselling late era Dead here. It’s fair that none of these albums have the hit rate of Workingman’s or American Beauty, but each album has 3-4 tracks that hold up and are the basis of listening to any 80s Dead. Some of the best Jerry tracks in particular are from this era, like Althea (probably top 5 all time for the band) and Black Muddy River. The era marked them moving from theaters to arenas and eventually stadiums, and experimenting with the bigger sound necessary to fill those spaces. There were some misses, sure, but also plenty of hits, including Touch of Grey which is just a great song despite being the band’s only “radio song”. It’s definitely different from the 70s era, but it’s just as essential. You can easily hear how these songs coexisted with Dire Straits/Steely Dan, and how the band ended up with Bruce Hornsby playing keys after Brent’s death. Also, how you gonna call Brent their best keyboardist/vocalist, but not include a Brent track on the playlist??
Anyway, here’s a Dead studio playlist from 77-95.
I've got althea on there! and touch of grey! I agree with your criticism in general, but a lot of what you're describing would be better suited for a live primer - and honestly I was being lazy and sticking to studio shit made my job easier. i agree though, i should have included a mydland studio track on there.
I'd be happy to collaborate on a live dead primer that covers the 60's, 70's, 80's; the bob dylan tours and marsalis sit-in. hell, 72 and 77 and summer 89 could have their own playlists, but i honestly don't think anyone on here would give a shiz except people who already have an opinion.
i sincerely do appreciate you picking on me though - makes this whole thing a little more worthwhile if there's some feedback/pushback/etc.
but reasons why I love mydland - he was the spiritual successor to Pigpen, imo. his voice was incredible and he was a much more skilled player, and unlike godchaux or hornsby (and even welnick) who played more standard piano (or synth), his B3 created a lot of space for jerry to solo and really filled out the songs and gave them a "classic" bluesy sound, i think. (granted i'm from memphis and booker t is damn hero).
i dunno, 80's dead wasn't bad, but i'll never recommend someone listen to in the dark instead of like, oakland or shoreline '87. but i put the basics on the the playlist and I think a well-curated playlist of live cuts of 80's dead is worthwhile, if people were interested.
Feel like Dance or Die > Faster > Locked Inside should remain in tact. Such an amazing transition song to song and I almost view it all as one. I would always wish for more Archandroid and less of the other two. Say Youll Go and Oh Maker.
I Could See The Dude, The Agony of Laffitte, and All The Negatives Have Been Destroyed are all solid early songs that should be on here. Laffitte in particular, as it’s the song about getting dropped from their first label and changing their sound from Pixies knock-off to the modern format.
added, just for you bby. though I do think the laffitt songs aren't necessarily essential for a "get to know spoon's music", and the whole drama with the A&R man is kinda getting into the weeds. sure it's important but spoon hits their stride on MERGE anyway.
Gonna pick on snowmanomura again here. I think you’re criminally underselling late era Dead here. It’s fair that none of these albums have the hit rate of Workingman’s or American Beauty, but each album has 3-4 tracks that hold up and are the basis of listening to any 80s Dead. Some of the best Jerry tracks in particular are from this era, like Althea (probably top 5 all time for the band) and Black Muddy River. The era marked them moving from theaters to arenas and eventually stadiums, and experimenting with the bigger sound necessary to fill those spaces. There were some misses, sure, but also plenty of hits, including Touch of Grey which is just a great song despite being the band’s only “radio song”. It’s definitely different from the 70s era, but it’s just as essential. You can easily hear how these songs coexisted with Dire Straits/Steely Dan, and how the band ended up with Bruce Hornsby playing keys after Brent’s death. Also, how you gonna call Brent their best keyboardist/vocalist, but not include a Brent track on the playlist??
Anyway, here’s a Dead studio playlist from 77-95.
I've got althea on there! and touch of grey! I agree with your criticism in general, but a lot of what you're describing would be better suited for a live primer - and honestly I was being lazy and sticking to studio shit made my job easier. i agree though, i should have included a mydland studio track on there.
I'd be happy to collaborate on a live dead primer that covers the 60's, 70's, 80's; the bob dylan tours and marsalis sit-in. hell, 72 and 77 and summer 89 could have their own playlists, but i honestly don't think anyone on here would give a shiz except people who already have an opinion.
i sincerely do appreciate you picking on me though - makes this whole thing a little more worthwhile if there's some feedback/pushback/etc.
but reasons why I love mydland - he was the spiritual successor to Pigpen, imo. his voice was incredible and he was a much more skilled player, and unlike godchaux or hornsby (and even welnick) who played more standard piano (or synth), his B3 created a lot of space for jerry to solo and really filled out the songs and gave them a "classic" bluesy sound, i think. (granted i'm from memphis and booker t is damn hero).
i dunno, 80's dead wasn't bad, but i'll never recommend someone listen to in the dark instead of like, oakland or shoreline '87. but i put the basics on the the playlist and I think a well-curated playlist of live cuts of 80's dead is worthwhile, if people were interested.
I’ll give a “dead primer” a go. I can’t do studio though, I don’t remember the last time I listened to a Grateful Dead studio cut
Feel like Dance or Die > Faster > Locked Inside should remain in tact. Such an amazing transition song to song and I almost view it all as one. I would always wish for more Archandroid and less of the other two. Say Youll Go and Oh Maker.
I'll take off Pynk and Yoga and put 2 more on from Archandroid.
Post by Vinnie the Eel on Jul 21, 2020 7:29:54 GMT -5
Here's mine. I skew late 70s and 80s because I just freaking love Brent. Some early standouts for me as well, like Playing in the Band from Veneto 1972 and Death Don't Have No Mercy from the Live/Dead album. Threw in some of my underplayed favorites too. And one studio cut in Unbroken Chain.
I'm working on this new jam (not that anyone cares, lol) and hope to have that out today. This has been fun just thinking about what I love the most about my faves.