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Well, look - I'm inspector, I fully realize after last game people aren't going to believe it, but my given name is Tranter and I believe there are reasons that both Rummy and BKB should go forward. I'm working through my suspect list now, I probably don't get a guess, but I think it make sense for me to reveal now with all the galaxy brain playing going on here.
wasnt the deadline 6pm tonight? I was about to switch my vote earlier to rummy but my laptop died on the plane
Well, look - I'm inspector, I fully realize after last game people aren't going to believe it, but my given name is Tranter and I believe there are reasons that both Rummy and BKB should go forward. I'm working through my suspect list now, I probably don't get a guess, but I think it make sense for me to reveal now with all the galaxy brain playing going on here.
wasnt the deadline 6pm tonight? I was about to switch my vote earlier to rummy but my laptop died on the plane
Yes, but I'm about to head into a work meeting so I don't know how much I could post after 1pm. And, like I said, I wanted to do this BEFORE the next runoff was set, because there are reasons to be suspicious of both Rummy and BKB (beyond the fact that I know my role and Tranter's role).
Well, look - I'm inspector, I fully realize after last game people aren't going to believe it, but my given name is Tranter and I believe there are reasons that both Rummy and BKB should go forward. I'm working through my suspect list now, I probably don't get a guess, but I think it make sense for me to reveal now with all the galaxy brain playing going on here.
this is such a weird fake reveal. you had 6 hours to wait for someone to move. It's quite literally the exact move you played last game.
Well, look - I'm inspector, I fully realize after last game people aren't going to believe it, but my given name is Tranter and I believe there are reasons that both Rummy and BKB should go forward. I'm working through my suspect list now, I probably don't get a guess, but I think it make sense for me to reveal now with all the galaxy brain playing going on here.
this is such a weird fake reveal. you had 6 hours to wait for someone to move. It's quite literally the exact move you played last game.
sort of getting deja vu of potent sort of jumping the gun before being in serious trouble so gonna just vibe with that for now and believe
We've been sitting here for 8 hours or so with me 5, rummy 3, bkb 3, and while you said you would move, you didn't while I asked, and nobody else has shown the slightest interest.
sort of getting deja vu of potent sort of jumping the gun before being in serious trouble so gonna just vibe with that for now and believe
We've been sitting here for 8 hours or so with me 5, rummy 3, bkb 3, and while you said you would move, you didn't while I asked, and nobody else has shown the slightest interest.
Well, look - I'm inspector, I fully realize after last game people aren't going to believe it, but my given name is Tranter and I believe there are reasons that both Rummy and BKB should go forward. I'm working through my suspect list now, I probably don't get a guess, but I think it make sense for me to reveal now with all the galaxy brain playing going on here.
I think I probably do actually believe you this time. This has more Real Inspector Potent vibes than it did last game where immediately alarm bells went off for me.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by potentpotables on Feb 12, 2021 12:44:52 GMT -5
Here are the notes I wrote to myself as we were moving through D1R1 and D1R2 (more thoughts coming later):
Tranter is given mafia name.
Opening vote for Tranter, nobody joins me in putting him in the runoff. I switch off him and onto KPO. Nobody joins me on KPO either. Rummy votes for Tranter, opening him up again to be in the runoff. Nobody joins. Makes me think Rummy is town.
Tranter last to vote. Interestingly, runoff is already set with 4. His options are to double up on BKB and add to the runoff or throw his vote away (because the only other single vote - mine - is on him). He chose to double up on BKB - enlarging the proposed runoff at that time.
Rummy votes D1R2 with Tranter, so further makes the case for her.
Jaz and Tranter end D1R1 voting for BKB, so it seems BKB/Jaz/Tranter can be ruled out, and likely Jaz and Tranter are not mafia together.
Here are the notes I wrote to myself as we were moving through D1R1 and D1R2 (more thoughts coming later):
Tranter is given mafia name.
Opening vote for Tranter, nobody joins me in putting him in the runoff. I switch off him and onto KPO. Nobody joins me on KPO either. Rummy votes for Tranter, opening him up again to be in the runoff. Nobody joins. Makes me think Rummy is town.
Tranter last to vote. Interestingly, runoff is already set with 4. His options are to double up on BKB and add to the runoff or throw his vote away (because the only other single vote - mine - is on him). He chose to double up on BKB - enlarging the proposed runoff at that time.
Rummy votes D1R2 with Tranter, so further makes the case for her.
Jaz and Tranter end D1R1 voting for BKB, so it seems BKB/Jaz/Tranter can be ruled out, and likely Jaz and Tranter are not mafia together.
I can’t really pay attention until tonight but I see there is a reveal. I’m generally inclined to believe a reveal, especially this early where he’s not naming another person in the runoff as a given. Only reason it would make sense to me for mafia to do a fake reveal this early is if there are 2 mafia in the runoff and it looks like they are both advancing, so you name the 3rd runoff person to save 2 mafia necks. That’s not the case here because he’s naming Tranter as given. I guess it’s possible that both he and Rummy are mafia, but if that’s the case, I’d think he would see if I get voted straight off before pulling the fake reveal trigger.
Since instead he’s naming Tranter who isn’t in runoff I gotta think Potent is actual inspector and praying that one of me or Rummy is mafia, and by removing himself he at least widens the scope/chance the final runoff gets a mafia. I get that.
I have no read on whether rummy is mafia, although I think a re read is in order to see what interplay may or may not exist between her an Tranter. Either way, I know I’m town and believe potent is inspector so I have nowhere else to move my vote. Frankly, if Rummy is Town, i wouldn’t even blame you guys for picking her to stay alive over me except for the fact that I know I’m town, I need to advocate for my life here. So fuck rummy and please vote for her
Here are the notes I wrote to myself as we were moving through D1R1 and D1R2 (more thoughts coming later):
Tranter is given mafia name.
Opening vote for Tranter, nobody joins me in putting him in the runoff. I switch off him and onto KPO. Nobody joins me on KPO either. Rummy votes for Tranter, opening him up again to be in the runoff. Nobody joins. Makes me think Rummy is town.
Tranter last to vote. Interestingly, runoff is already set with 4. His options are to double up on BKB and add to the runoff or throw his vote away (because the only other single vote - mine - is on him). He chose to double up on BKB - enlarging the proposed runoff at that time.
Rummy votes D1R2 with Tranter, so further makes the case for her.
Jaz and Tranter end D1R1 voting for BKB, so it seems BKB/Jaz/Tranter can be ruled out, and likely Jaz and Tranter are not mafia together.
At this point, I'm not guessing Jaz or Rummy.
ahh true. BKB can die
I’m pretty sure you 100% misread what Potent said. He thinks there is a greater chance Rummy is mafia, not me.
Wait a second, Potent’s while analysis points to Rummy being mafia more so than me by a lot...and then he says he’s NOT guessing Jaz or Rummy? That makes no sense.
I have no read on whether rummy is mafia, although I think a re read is in order to see what interplay may or may not exist between her an Tranter. Either way, I know I’m town and believe potent is inspector so I have nowhere else to move my vote. Frankly, if Rummy is Town, i wouldn’t even blame you guys for picking her to stay alive over me except for the fact that I know I’m town, I need to advocate for my life here. So fuck rummy and please vote for her
this went so many places in so few words.
The only argument i could kind of see for Potent faking here is that he's Mafia again and thinks "what are the chance town would think I'm pulling the same shit stunt again? Let's riff of that probable disbelief" but nah. I think hes truthing
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
At the very least, there should be a runoff with me and rummy. It’s possible she’s town and all those votes will be useless anyway. But if she’s mafia it’s worth having the runoff for a voting record.
As it stands, I believe Jortles just pushed me up to 5 to be voted straight out.
Post by potentpotables on Feb 12, 2021 13:02:54 GMT -5
I'm not finished with my notes, but after the votes of Rummy/T "clearing" her, there was an interaction between them that I thought was odd and made her less safe. When I went through, I reduced it to 8 possible combos based on voting patterns and assumptions I was making, and Rummy was in half of those (all others involved were in 3/8). I made an error somewhere though, so I haven't provided that info yet.
tl;dr I don't think Rummy is more likely mafia than BKB. I think they are equally likely, but I wouldn't have guessed Rummy (or won't, I guess but I won't be alive to get the answer anyway). I think it's worth it to the town to have the final runoff be between the two of them, to see where everybody votes, and then get the role reveal on D2 to see. I think both are probably town, but I know I'm inspector, so...
I also am looking at the original D1 runoff, who dropped out, and how. Since T enlarged the runoff with his initial vote, it makes sense that that person (at least Jortles, maybe others) could have benefitted.
