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I’m only the “best choice” if you’re looking to kill innocent townsfolk. You’re getting played here.
I'm not playing anyone and if you are town, you have full permission to dunk on me post game.
I'm not trying to dunk on anyone. I'm just trying to win! Before you all make a mistake and vote me out, let me give you a quick summary of my thoughts. I had planned on a long drawn out explanation of my thoughts on each player, but that's not gonna happen this morning. So here's the best I can give right now based on an incomplete reread:
Jortles - been super quiet. I don’t have a good read on him, but if he’s mafia, he’s played a really lame game (effective or not). If I had to guess, he’s town.
I'm guessing that either Maddog or Silver is mafia, if I had to pick I'd go Maddog (but this is admittedly based on early game).
Maddog - has been driving votes in different directions for the last 10 pages or so. Had that random 3>2 (which I understand has some justification based on revotes) thing where he tried to get Theo out of the runoff. Rummy and I didn’t like it, but it is less sus if Theo isn’t mafia. Not the strongest case, but I'm still sus.
Silver - probably the highest count poster and hasn’t been whacked or eliminated. Has really surfed above the fray. I'm guessing he's town, but could be playing a masterful mafia game. Has also controlled the voting/thought patterns.
For those of you who believe that one of Otter or Theo is Mafia:
Otter - case against me comes down to some silly posts on night 1. I learned my lesson, but as Potent correct explained: “Are people really that concerned about Otter? It feels to me like his N1 comments were from a townie who doesn't know any better. I found it odd that A) he thought he'd die and B) was surprised he survived the night (in two separate comments), but that feels like a newbie townie to me, not a mafia. It's such an obvious way to draw attention to oneself that it gives me a town read on him.” Maddog subsequently cleared me as well. As did Silver. Now people are back on me. Be sus of this. Haven't had a chance to finally digest who started this, but it would probably be revealing.
Theo - in addition to the reveal, him vs. KPO was identified as a potential mafia early on, but the consensus seems to be that KPO was mafia. Jortles vaguely identified a Theo post as sus on page 13. Silver pointed at Theo based on a reread on page 13. But here he is. I am gathering that most believe him, but he's still kinda sus to me. Admittedly this is based on my early game reads.
Potent is probably my most confident town read, but I don't have a ton to go on other than general tone/approach.
Round One Jaz - 2 (Jortles, Rummy) Jortles - 2 (Tranter, Maddog) Theo - 2 (Dan, KPO) KPO - 2 (Theo, Silver) Rummy - 2 (Jaz, Potent) Dan - 1 (Otter)
Tranter > Jortles Jaz > Otter Maddog > Jortles Dan > Theo Rummy > Dan Theo > KPO Otter > Dan Jortles > Jaz Silver > KPO KPO > Theo Potent > Rummy Rummy > Jaz Potent > Rummy > Jaz Jaz > Otter > Rummy Potent > Jaz > Rummy Otter > Dan > Theo Otter > Theo > Dan
I'm not playing anyone and if you are town, you have full permission to dunk on me post game.
Jortles - been super quiet. I don’t have a good read on him, but if he’s mafia, he’s played a really lame game (effective or not). If I had to guess, he’s town.
I'll discount the Theo/Potent stuff for now since it is technically unknown, but Jortles is 100% oracle. So this part of your post is really weird to me
Round One Jaz - 2 (Jortles, Rummy) Jortles - 2 (Tranter, Maddog) Theo - 2 (Dan, KPO) KPO - 2 (Theo, Silver) Rummy - 2 (Jaz, Potent) Dan - 1 (Otter)
Tranter > Jortles Jaz > Otter Maddog > Jortles Dan > Theo Rummy > Dan Theo > KPO Otter > Dan Jortles > Jaz Silver > KPO KPO > Theo Potent > Rummy Rummy > Jaz Potent > Rummy > Jaz Jaz > Otter > Rummy Potent > Jaz > Rummy Otter > Dan > Theo Otter > Theo > Dan
Post by Silver Surfer on May 1, 2021 11:18:11 GMT -5
Gonna try to channel Kanye V1 and do a stream of consciousness post
At this point we are definitely buying Theo so this'll be based on that
Town: DaBobby potentpotables Theo Jake Jortles Rumdawg Millionaire Silver Surfer/Yourself
Mafia: Jaz
Unknown: jimmaddogmattis KPO otter tatranterla
Looking at these unknowns I almost feel like we're headed to a day 5. That's just a hunch, and I havent even starting rereading yet so that might change- hence the stream of consciousness
Maddog, Tranter and I are only people left on this list. Im town, so take that as you will. KPO also with a last 4 vote, we could've potentially hit maf on day 2
Im hitting the posts where I think raised alarms for Mafia Jaz re:Dan being inspector
Almost immediately followed by this. Doesn't seem like a coordinated post between Potent/Theo and also makes so much sense from the perspective that Theo has Jaz's name. Like Theo is like "Wow, my given was just pushed to exile position!"
Opens the round as the lone revoter and votes Jaz. Potent pointed to this earlier as saying it makes Otter seem town but it's possible that it's a coordinated distancing given that Jaz wouldn't be exiled from this move and a runoff would still form. It is formatted like a switch but it isn't one.
I would’ve gone Rummy so I’ll do the only one that gives us three clean revotes.
Tranter > Jaz
This vote for Jaz however stands out to me and makes me think T is town. This vote officially puts Jaz into the final runoff when he could've easily just voted for KPO
What's up. I'm not making excuses but I'm very much not doing well at the moment. If I'm voted out so be it but I don't have it in me to try and make something out of our D1 crapshoot. If I make it through today I'll do better next round. I just can't right now. I'm sorry.
Hope he's doing okay. Reading into this- I think it could easily be Jaz laying down. Been mafia with him before and he's always fine being a day 1 exile and even offered to be a self-whack once. So I mean with the stuff I was saying earlier about Otter- I think it's possible he thought he was distanced well from at least one teammate and just was fine taking a mental break.
This is Day 1. Gonna reread day 2 in a bit but gonna throw this post out. Thinking Otter is a great pick rn
looks kinda townish. Seems a little unlikely for him to plant that portion about me being mafia if hes actually mafia
It reads to me as forced townish. Like he's mafia with the mindset of "I need to pretend to be town, and town doesn't know anything." Feel like he's playing up the naivete
looks kinda townish. Seems a little unlikely for him to plant that portion about me being mafia if hes actually mafia
It reads to me as forced townish. Like he's mafia with the mindset of "I need to pretend to be town, and town doesn't know anything." Feel like he's playing up the naivete
I mean I think the best move would have been tranter. He’s definitely mafia. Coinflip on these two.
It reads to me as forced townish. Like he's mafia with the mindset of "I need to pretend to be town, and town doesn't know anything." Feel like he's playing up the naivete
I mean I think the best move would have been tranter. He’s definitely mafia. Coinflip on these two.
if you’re this confident he’s mafia why did we take him out of the runoff?
I started on my large post while buzzed last night and forgot that jortles revealed as Oracle. Dumb on my part, but I just copy, pasted, and sent on my way out the door before I was away all morning. But I stand by the rest of it.
I'm not playing anyone and if you are town, you have full permission to dunk on me post game.
I'm not trying to dunk on anyone. I'm just trying to win! Before you all make a mistake and vote me out, let me give you a quick summary of my thoughts. I had planned on a long drawn out explanation of my thoughts on each player, but that's not gonna happen this morning. So here's the best I can give right now based on an incomplete reread:
Jortles - been super quiet. I don’t have a good read on him, but if he’s mafia, he’s played a really lame game (effective or not). If I had to guess, he’s town.
I'm guessing that either Maddog or Silver is mafia, if I had to pick I'd go Maddog (but this is admittedly based on early game).
Maddog - has been driving votes in different directions for the last 10 pages or so. Had that random 3>2 (which I understand has some justification based on revotes) thing where he tried to get Theo out of the runoff. Rummy and I didn’t like it, but it is less sus if Theo isn’t mafia. Not the strongest case, but I'm still sus.
Silver - probably the highest count poster and hasn’t been whacked or eliminated. Has really surfed above the fray. I'm guessing he's town, but could be playing a masterful mafia game. Has also controlled the voting/thought patterns.
For those of you who believe that one of Otter or Theo is Mafia:
Otter - case against me comes down to some silly posts on night 1. I learned my lesson, but as Potent correct explained: “Are people really that concerned about Otter? It feels to me like his N1 comments were from a townie who doesn't know any better. I found it odd that A) he thought he'd die and B) was surprised he survived the night (in two separate comments), but that feels like a newbie townie to me, not a mafia. It's such an obvious way to draw attention to oneself that it gives me a town read on him.” Maddog subsequently cleared me as well. As did Silver. Now people are back on me. Be sus of this. Haven't had a chance to finally digest who started this, but it would probably be revealing.
Theo - in addition to the reveal, him vs. KPO was identified as a potential mafia early on, but the consensus seems to be that KPO was mafia. Jortles vaguely identified a Theo post as sus on page 13. Silver pointed at Theo based on a reread on page 13. But here he is. I am gathering that most believe him, but he's still kinda sus to me. Admittedly this is based on my early game reads.
Potent is probably my most confident town read, but I don't have a ton to go on other than general tone/approach.
I never said I wanted theo out of the runoff, I was going over a possibility
I started on my large post while buzzed last night and forgot that jortles revealed as Oracle. Dumb on my part, but I just copy, pasted, and sent on my way out the door before I was away all morning. But I stand by the rest of it.
I mean I think the best move would have been tranter. He’s definitely mafia. Coinflip on these two.
if you’re this confident he’s mafia why did we take him out of the runoff?
i stayed on him all day and have him submitted as my oracle guess permanently. Not playing enough to start a campaign and convince people of something im not certain on
I think the runoff is good but we should probably go straight to a two way and skip the 3way nonsense. it does sort of suck that dropping theo gives kpo and otter who could be in the 2, revotes, but I think regardless of how it shakes out that'll happen to some extent
This post is sus.
A thought: Maddog is switching around a lot on day 2. Will come back to this thought with a maddog switch count
Yeah I think we should have a mafia here. Uhhhh I’m getting out class in like 5 so I’ll skim through to make sure I didn’t miss anything but my vote is decided.
This post is so weird considering he never followed it up with a vote until like hours and hours later
I was gonna vote for Theo but I’ll put in this spot if anyone else wants to make the call
Tranter > KPO
And then this was that vote. Don't like the "Was gonna vote Theo but Ill let someone else take the shot" Especially since hours earlier he said his vote was decided. He's done this type of stuff as town before though.
a lot of coudla shoulda whack talk? why would people who know they're town be shocked they weren't whacked? makes no sense.
was waiting to see what he was going to rebutt so I'll go ahead and lock
md > kpo*
Maddog didnt even really acknowledge it so that's weird
Okay that's day 2 to me.
Gonna do a Maddog Switch Count including day 3: No switches day 1 No switches day 2 2 switches day 3
So this was a bad observation when I looked at vote history- HOWEVER I discovered something different.
Maddog has had 4 revotes so far which is weird. I know mafia sets themself up to revote a bit. He used his revote in the final runoff on Rummy instead of Jaz as well. And then his revote on the final runoff on day 2 was after the reveal (Which he didn't acknowledge) and he went onto KPO
if you’re this confident he’s mafia why did we take him out of the runoff?
i stayed on him all day and have him submitted as my oracle guess permanently. Not playing enough to start a campaign and convince people of something im not certain on
at night your guess goes in effect before the whack does. If he’s exiled today you’re able to switch your name no consequence
It reads to me as forced townish. Like he's mafia with the mindset of "I need to pretend to be town, and town doesn't know anything." Feel like he's playing up the naivete
I mean I think the best move would have been tranter. He’s definitely mafia. Coinflip on these two.
I'm starting to think that Jortles is in fact bad at this game.
Yeah I think we should have a mafia here. Uhhhh I’m getting out class in like 5 so I’ll skim through to make sure I didn’t miss anything but my vote is decided.
This post is so weird considering he never followed it up with a vote until like hours and hours later
I was gonna vote for Theo but I’ll put in this spot if anyone else wants to make the call
Tranter > KPO
And then this was that vote. Don't like the "Was gonna vote Theo but Ill let someone else take the shot" Especially since hours earlier he said his vote was decided. He's done this type of stuff as town before though.
a lot of coudla shoulda whack talk? why would people who know they're town be shocked they weren't whacked? makes no sense.
was waiting to see what he was going to rebutt so I'll go ahead and lock
md > kpo*
Maddog didnt even really acknowledge it so that's weird
Okay that's day 2 to me.
Gonna do a Maddog Switch Count including day 3: No switches day 1 No switches day 2 2 switches day 3
So this was a bad observation when I looked at vote history- HOWEVER I discovered something different.
Maddog has had 4 revotes so far which is weird. I know mafia sets themself up to revote a bit. He used his revote in the final runoff on Rummy instead of Jaz as well. And then his revote on the final runoff on day 2 was after the reveal (Which he didn't acknowledge) and he went onto KPO
if you think I was being set up for revotes wouldn't you be able to tell who was setting me up? also one of those revotes rummy jumped the gun on me, and she's town.
the switches were after me voting for theo after he wasn't whacked, and then me positioning myself to not be exiled which I was at multiple points. I don't think that's all that suspicious.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
