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The main thing I got from my D1 reread was eliminating a couple mafia combos. I'd put money on Zig and Tranter not being mafia together, along with Kanye and Tranter, and Rummy and Kanye.
The nice thing about a 5way is that statistically speaking, it is highlyyy likely at least one Maf is in it. As we've seen, it also isn't too unlikely a Special Town Role is too though, but so it goessss
I assume we are at D1R2 Cookin' Mama considering no one pushed back on my last minute vote change and every player other than Pablo is currently active on the boards...
that's correct. he warned us he wouldn't be very available for d1
Cookin' Mama if Pablo hasn't checked in and voted by 6pm today, can we have til midnight or something? Since presumably people will want to shift some votes around so it isn't an outright exile of whoever he votes for, but folks are waiting on his vote before doing so
Is potent saying that mafia tends to fall out of a 5way runoff and then switched off someone falling out of the runoff? Wouldn't moving to rummy be the counter to mafia slipping out as opposed to stacking on tranter 30 mins before deadline?
yeah tbh I just read his post three times in a row & still feel confused.
How is pushing Tranter to exile position rn achieving what he described in his post? I don’t get it lol
I think both tranter and kpo are quieter than usual
kpo has had a role like 5 of the last 6 games or something, so how are you computing the "quieter than usual" part?? if he's acting different than he has been in most recent games, maybe that computes to him actually being vanilla town this time.
Lmao she just doesn't wanna waste her whack don't fall for her reasoning
waste my whack? Haha so you’re saying you have this game totally figured out already and I’m clearly Maf, most likely with Potent and/or Tranter, and I’m doing something rn to...help towards n1 whack?
How are silver and I off? Silver seems to be playing normally for him
i already spoke to how your back n forths with each other have felt a little manufactured from at least one of the sides--i know Silv likes to probe/bait/etc as townie, but his tone to it feels a little different this game so far compared to recent ones where he's been town over and over.
it is d1. all i can really speak to is tone/approach/~gut feelings~
Alright guys, no more posts. Let's try to wrap this game up by page 11. We're 1 for 1 if the runoff stays. Get your brooms out
I think this just rly pains me because we have been on the same page almost entirely the last few games we were both town. So you acting like this makes me feel like you must not be on my side.
If you’re actually town w me, pls stop w the nonsense
If I go here, I'd say don't get too caught up in the thick of it. Just look at who was trying to sneak in a vote during the switches. I think most if not all of the central players here are town.
I’m saying this whole “I’ve left y’all enough clues ok bye!” shtick on d1 isn’t helpful to town. If you were inspector, you would’ve revealed. I get you sometimes do baiting especially d1 to see what lands, but if you’re actually town and been doing that here, it felt tangibly less effective than sometimes is
stop trying to make things out into something they’re not. Your post was weird to me, so I prodded at it.
Not bc I’m mafia. Not bc I’m inspector. But bc YOU have seemed off this whole d1 so far to me, and you know I’ve been on the Support Silv train for a lot of recent games so it isn’t like I have it out for you as part of my usual game play a la the tranter/silver bickering
thx for pulling that actually—I was misremembering this post as you saying me, potent, tranter
Lol ok so the claim isn’t that you’ve got T’s name but one of these ? Couldn’t be mine if you’re truthing, so one of the other two...but you actually think that doing all this “will I , won’t I?” shit baiting for a whack is the productive thing to do?? If you actually are inspector and get whacked tonight, you didn’t actually leave us a name at all. You would’ve left us nothing confirmed.
if silver is inspector here and opting to die with his given name just for shits n giggles, fuck that noise
much more likely hes baiting, and i HOPE it would be as mafia at least, not only bc he's set to be exiled but also because this has notttt been helpful for town
you're vanilla town and you were heavily implying Rummy. If you weren't exiled and got whacked, that would mean Rummy is mafia. It also protects inspector from a whack N1.
would've been a bummer to go through all this mayhem just to implicate someone who is town (me) and cause a shit storm in the process
it bears mentioning that silver is the originator of Fake Revealing as Vanilla Townie, but im pretty sure we all agreed it didn't work so well, and i would be sorta annoyed if he was doing it again. luckily real inspector has NOT revealed here, but what if they had
Real inspector would've only come out if I truly revealed which I didn't and if mafia did whack me just to frame then real inspector is still alive. Also want to note potent was also implicated and I'm gonna do a write up of everyone's responses
Real goal was always to come out eventually that I was lying and was just trying to get reactions. Potent looks real bad still and so does rummy. I think you cleared yourself
how do i look so bad here? jesus christ. if you do something like this as town, you have to understand people are liekly to find you sus in the process--that doesnt mean they're mafia.
potent has been notably quiet for him, and my eye is def towards him d2. im glad we finally agree on tranter seeming very town. but if you die here going out with this narrative of how i look so bad from this shit storm you created, you're certainly not doing town ANY favors
im really fucking annoyed by this whole thing. i said you were acting off. YOU WERE. now you're convinced that my raising eyebrows at you this whole time=i'm mafia.
if THIS is what you count as baiting inspector, i have nothing to even say. this was earlyyyy d1, and i was prodding at you bc you were acting funny. thats all there is to it.
I’m saying this whole “I’ve left y’all enough clues ok bye!” shtick on d1 isn’t helpful to town. If you were inspector, you would’ve revealed. I get you sometimes do baiting especially d1 to see what lands, but if you’re actually town and been doing that here, it felt tangibly less effective than sometimes is
Other things like "Are me and Tranter your name?" Or "real inspector would reveal" stuff like that and it doesn't matter if it was prodding this is an extremely suspicious post and one I've only done as mafia. Why bring attention to it?
ok so a thing im realizing i really really abhor is this tactic of people throwing out OBVIOUS baits with names like "well i only know the one!" or "this might be the trio" blah blah in *early d1* where then it becomes sus for someone else to call out that post as weird. like, we are supposed to just roll with the chaotic town manuever even though it often really doesnt help town in the long run.
i wouldn't bring attention to a post like that if i thought it was real inspector. but why would real inspector write baiting shit like that so early in d1? unless maybe you're Jostles
so , sure, if you are going to find me super sus because i prodded at YOUR baiting post (that to me at the time read like mafia BSing, nothing more nothing less, and thats what got this ball rolling), then there isn't much i can do about that now, is there...HMMM?
This is just plain wrong. Baits and chaotic town has worked plenty of times, and if silver is town, I’d argue it’s working now. Hell it worked last game when maf didn’t whack the inspector.
i think i phrased it poorly above -- i don't abhor the tactic itself, but the notion that Townspeople raising eyebrows at chaotic moves like that makes them look sus in effect. since chaos can often be a mafia tactic, not town
and if it is working now, and you believe silv is town, you on board w us exiling you instead? or do you think we are v unlucky and have 3 townspeople in this runoff?
Also I want to point out that Rummy and Potent weren't just names taken out of thin air. Both have really weird tone to me this game and that's why I chose them. Potents insistent "helpfulness" is a huge flag to me. Rummy also saying she's sus of dan and then voting for me is really weird too
i said i was sus of both you and dan, and have had votes on both of y'all here in d1. you had a back and forth that felt weird, then you got all up on me with this whole mayhem situation, so yeah, i ended up with my vote on you. now it is back on dan after reveal of your preposterous but yeah-townie-silv-would-do-that tactic
Otter kpo and Pablo could be an interesting group too given the whack. One maf laying back and 1 being active makes sense here
or what is now seeming increasingly possible (and unfortunate for town, probably hella amusing to maf) is that of all this back and forth with me, you, silver and tranter, it has been town v town v town v town
this is fine, I think clearing 2 town between Silver and I either: saves inspector if I'm whacked, gives us a townie in d2
in the hypothetical scenario of you and silv being maf together this would be a baller ass move, ngl. both getting more or less "cleared" as town -- and inspector would probably have an uphill battle if coming out with one of your names lol (i dont actually think thats whats happening, just saying What If)
I do want town to remember that it was just two games ago when jostles “cleared” mafia Dan (when J was in fact actually inspector but only had one name), and it fucked all sorts of shit up.
So although i personally do have a town read on T and think Silv almost certainly was town himself, I’m with zig that acting like you have ACTUALLY cleared someone as town d1 just bc their reactions seem townish etc, doesn’t behoove town
right but re: you, I’m saying that I will continue operating under the town read I have of you unless given reason to shift that, but I’m not going to say you’re Cleared Town or some shit. And no one else should either IMO
Just caught up. Know youre dead now but I see what you were saying here. Dont believe it means Rummy is mafia though. When I was Inspector 2 games ago I was fucking livid that you and tranter kept repeatedly publicly making sure that everyone knew I had a role... and iirc you were just both asshole townies.
Our Town loves to put a spotlight on inspector and I hate it. So while I hate the post from Rummy, I think it can easily be a typical inforoo town move unfortunately. And actually it might be less likely for mafia to be like “so youre saying youre inspector?!”
Honest question tho: when silv (or anyone, for that matter) says super early on d1 something like “I just know the one name,” is the rest of Town supposed to just not react? Ignore him? Agree with him?
I maintain that I prodded at it because it seemed sus and NOT bc I was genuinely thinking he might be inspector.
He laid it on way too thick so I get your read of the situation I just dont see the value of highlighting it. If he was subtle enough about it I would have tried to let a page pass then move off him for a different made up reason to not draw any extra mafia attention to it.
Yeah if it had come off as an Actual Inspector Breadcrumb I would’ve done the same as you’re describing, but it was blunt and chaotic in a way that made me feel sus of him as potential mafia. And I just sorta resent how a couple people (not you) have stated that that means I was baiting for inspector. How could I have been baiting him to come out as inspector when my suspicion was that he was mafia?
Rummy seemed to have a decent amount of heat so don't think that maf whacks her unless they thought she had a decent chance of being inspector. Her votes where myself, zig, and silver throughout day one, and i remember her distinctly calling out myself, potent, and theo (and a defense of kpo when i said he had been quiet). Theo and zig stands out to me here since rummy had mentioned them name, and since they were both in the group of silver, zig, theo who were apart of the movement around tranter. Rummy also at the end of the day suggested that it was a bunch of townie arguing which stands out to me as a reason she might have been whacked, pointing to people sitting back. I think theo here fits the bill mostly since he was apart of the movement around tranter, was implicated in her posts, was only moderately active throughout the day, and ended voting against him at the end of the day.
Alright, all caught up. Sorry for the delayed response. We launched a festival today (The Kansas City BBQ Festival, check it out on social media and give it a follow. We’re putting it on with The Chiefs!)
I don’t like Otter and Zig so far but Rummy seemed to think that zig is just an annoying player like that. I tend to trust her intuition. Not sure if Silver was mafia but think he was the logical choice given the runoff
Sorry you got whacked Rummy. I see it that as a misdirect more than anything and if true, that would be the second misdirect you’ve fallen victim too.
If Tranter is Mafia they deserve this win even if he was immensely annoying with that long post
Jortles is pretty quiet but he’s been pretty quiet the last few games and I know he’s pretty busy with work.
The main thing I got from my D1 reread was eliminating a couple mafia combos. I'd put money on Zig and Tranter not being mafia together, along with Kanye and Tranter, and Rummy and Kanye.
Why ZIG and Tranter?
Their interactions really don't feel like they're both mafia. Mafia absolutely press each other but I've never seen it to the level that Zig and Tranter were going after each other
Their interactions really don't feel like they're both mafia. Mafia absolutely press each other but I've never seen it to the level that Zig and Tranter were going after each other
That's interesting because I feel like ZIG is trying too hard to push it to 10 in this game and that Tranter and ZIG like arguing and might overdo it/allow themselves to genuinely be annoyed by each other.
Their interactions really don't feel like they're both mafia. Mafia absolutely press each other but I've never seen it to the level that Zig and Tranter were going after each other
That's interesting because I feel like ZIG is trying too hard to push it to 10 in this game and that Tranter and ZIG like arguing and might overdo it/allow themselves to genuinely be annoyed by each other.
Well I've never played with Zig before so yeah the arguing did feel over the top for a mafia game, but the general sense I get from people who have played with him before is that this is on brand for him.
Rummy seemed to have a decent amount of heat so don't think that maf whacks her unless they thought she had a decent chance of being inspector. Her votes where myself, zig, and silver throughout day one, and i remember her distinctly calling out myself, potent, and theo (and a defense of kpo when i said he had been quiet). Theo and zig stands out to me here since rummy had mentioned them name, and since they were both in the group of silver, zig, theo who were apart of the movement around tranter. Rummy also at the end of the day suggested that it was a bunch of townie arguing which stands out to me as a reason she might have been whacked, pointing to people sitting back. I think theo here fits the bill mostly since he was apart of the movement around tranter, was implicated in her posts, was only moderately active throughout the day, and ended voting against him at the end of the day.
That's interesting because I feel like ZIG is trying too hard to push it to 10 in this game and that Tranter and ZIG like arguing and might overdo it/allow themselves to genuinely be annoyed by each other.
Well I've never played with Zig before so yeah the arguing did feel over the top for a mafia game, but the general sense I get from people who have played with him before is that this is on brand for him.
I've played with him before and it feels a little bit like a put-on. Pretty aggressive D1 from what I remember. Anyone else think that or am I crazy?
Rummy seemed to have a decent amount of heat so don't think that maf whacks her unless they thought she had a decent chance of being inspector. Her votes where myself, zig, and silver throughout day one, and i remember her distinctly calling out myself, potent, and theo (and a defense of kpo when i said he had been quiet). Theo and zig stands out to me here since rummy had mentioned them name, and since they were both in the group of silver, zig, theo who were apart of the movement around tranter. Rummy also at the end of the day suggested that it was a bunch of townie arguing which stands out to me as a reason she might have been whacked, pointing to people sitting back. I think theo here fits the bill mostly since he was apart of the movement around tranter, was implicated in her posts, was only moderately active throughout the day, and ended voting against him at the end of the day.
Dan > Theo
This is a whole lot of nonsense
Expanding on this:
First point is fine I guess. She might have called out me, you, and Potent, but she can only have 1 of our names and that really shouldn't be justification to go after someone else in that grouping when you're in it. Don't see why the defense of KPO is relevant.
Bringing up the me, Silver, Zig grouping again is really weird. For starters you're straight up accepting Tranter's town read on himself and pushing a grouping involving the person we exiled D1, who Tranter also has a town read on. I'm town and I have a town read on Zig so it's a very strange deflection off of everyone else who was less active on the day. But then after that you say you think Rummy is whacked because she mentioned that she thinks the less active people are more suspicious, and you're using this to push on me again when I was pretty actively following everything happening D1 and certainly posting in that time more than everyone else in the low activity group other than maybe Potent. I do lean town on Tranter but I think you're taking those reads on him too far.
First point is fine I guess. She might have called out me, you, and Potent, but she can only have 1 of our names and that really shouldn't be justification to go after someone else in that grouping when you're in it. Don't see why the defense of KPO is relevant.
Bringing up the me, Silver, Zig grouping again is really weird. For starters you're straight up accepting Tranter's town read on himself and pushing a grouping involving the person we exiled D1, who Tranter also has a town read on. I'm town and I have a town read on Zig so it's a very strange deflection off of everyone else who was less active on the day. But then after that you say you think Rummy is whacked because she mentioned that she thinks the less active people are more suspicious, and you're using this to push on me again when I was pretty actively following everything happening D1 and certainly posting in that time more than everyone else in the low activity group other than maybe Potent. I do lean town on Tranter but I think you're taking those reads on him too far.
In regards to Tranter I don’t think he’s worth looking at today, not only for the rummy whack, I also don’t think it’s worth exploring him yet given the amount of movement around him at the end of the day. Not sure how I’m leaning to hard into a read when you also lean town on him. You definitely were more active than the group of kpo otter and Pablo so I’ll give you that. You just are such a constant in multiple groupings that we have to look at you. Otter and Pablo certainly stick out to me as well but aren’t as heavily implicated (and the kpo defense is relevant since he could not be a potential given name).
Post by piggy pablo on May 4, 2021 23:02:27 GMT -5
Pablo > KPO
Could see stacking on Theo but I couldn't totally articulate why I'm suspicious of him. I think KPO is on the right track but I don't want to get tunnel vision.
Could see stacking on Theo but I couldn't totally articulate why I'm suspicious of him. I think KPO is on the right track but I don't want to get tunnel vision.
Could see stacking on Theo but I couldn't totally articulate why I'm suspicious of him. I think KPO is on the right track but I don't want to get tunnel vision.
What does this mean?
It means I'm being cagey and I'd like to hear from you because you're a pretty good player I hear?