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Some great names hidden in the tiny font at the bottom for Wednesday. It's not Warrant without Jani Lane (RIP) but Lita Ford rocks and I'm sure Firehouse can still bring it.
Putting Wednesday at the bottom of the poster is the buttrock version of the "Returning to the Desert..." special billing
Post by tewentytwo on Jan 27, 2022 23:07:05 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been posted already but they just released the full lineup. Kinda funky that it’s being billed as a 2 day fest with the one day in LA and one in SF. The bill will be spilt between the two. I’m super interested but I’m waiting for each day’s lineup before I buy tickets.
I know a couple of people who go to Rock Fest every year, it seems like all right time if you like the music but it’s kind of funny because they host it at the least scenic location possible in one of the most beautiful parts of the entire Midwest.
Some great names hidden in the tiny font at the bottom for Wednesday. It's not Warrant without Jani Lane (RIP) but Lita Ford rocks and I'm sure Firehouse can still bring it.
Putting Wednesday at the bottom of the poster is the buttrock version of the "Returning to the Desert..." special billing
I would love that Wednesday and literally nothing else.
Some great names hidden in the tiny font at the bottom for Wednesday. It's not Warrant without Jani Lane (RIP) but Lita Ford rocks and I'm sure Firehouse can still bring it.
Putting Wednesday at the bottom of the poster is the buttrock version of the "Returning to the Desert..." special billing
Warrant great? I feel like they are at the top of of the list of the shittiest bands of all time. I can’t think of a single redeeming point that could be made in their defense.
Some great names hidden in the tiny font at the bottom for Wednesday. It's not Warrant without Jani Lane (RIP) but Lita Ford rocks and I'm sure Firehouse can still bring it.
Putting Wednesday at the bottom of the poster is the buttrock version of the "Returning to the Desert..." special billing
Warrant great? I feel like they are at the top of of the list of the shittiest bands of all time. I can’t think of a single redeeming point that could be made in their defense.
We get it. You don't want to go where the down boys go.
I saw them at their peak opening for Motley Crue. It was a fun show.
Warrant great? I feel like they are at the top of of the list of the shittiest bands of all time. I can’t think of a single redeeming point that could be made in their defense.
We get it. You don't want to go where the down boys go.
I saw them at their peak opening for Motley Crue. It was a fun show.
Had a down boys line ready to go - very glad to be beaten to the punch.
Their first album was quality glam metal. Cherry Pie was definitely the big pivot for radio play but go ahead and crank Uncle Tom's Cabin and claim it doesn't still rip.
you might not get it. I’m a bit older than you, and as someone who came up in the OG headbasher era (UFO Sabbath, Priest, Budgie, MSG), hairspray/Sunset Strip glam metal was the most poseur shit there was. My little sister’s generation, she’s born in the early 70’s so a Gen X kid, loved that shit. They dressed in spandex and bullet belts and all that. Her whole posse looked like they came out of a video from that era. We were still jamming hardcore since it hadn’t jumped the shark yet. It was of course DIY and anti-fashion. At the same time, there were tons of sub genres of metal where the focus was on music and not image. You had the early thrash metal scene rising up with bands like Metallica touring endlessly. There were acts like Venom and Slayer. Certainly the speed metal scene in Sweden and the origins of black metal and dark circle shit from Norway. And there was low info image appeal hair metal being promoted on MTV. Nothing about that scene was cutting edge musically despite the abilities of some of drummers and guitarists who had virtuoso skill but played down to wimpy power ballads and pop metal. Poison, to me, was kind of the leaders of that branch which included other hairsprayed, teased and combed bands such as Warrant and White Lion and shit. Anyone who was into metal before that era saw through it. No offense to those who enjoyed it. But it was a pose.
We get it. You don't want to go where the down boys go.
I saw them at their peak opening for Motley Crue. It was a fun show.
Had a down boys line ready to go - very glad to be beaten to the punch.
Their first album was quality glam metal. Cherry Pie was definitely the big pivot for radio play but go ahead and crank Uncle Tom's Cabin and claim it doesn't still rip.
A lot of the earliest shit from those bands is good. Even the Rock Brigade early/teen era of Def Leopard wasn’t bad. But the acceptance and push by MTV to sell fashion and the race to outdo other glam acts resulted in mush.
Had a down boys line ready to go - very glad to be beaten to the punch.
Their first album was quality glam metal. Cherry Pie was definitely the big pivot for radio play but go ahead and crank Uncle Tom's Cabin and claim it doesn't still rip.
A lot of the earliest shit from those bands is good. Even the Rock Brigade early/teen era of Def Leopard wasn’t bad. But the acceptance and push by MTV to sell fashion and the race to outdo other glam acts resulted in mush.
I don't disagree with that and wasn't intending to initiate a scholarly reappraisal of the sonic influence of Warrant. It's Warrant. They stood out as a great name on that poster. And it's not like it was the Velvet Underground and Tom Waits we are comparing them to, it was Disturbed and Skillet. Greatness is relative.
A lot of the earliest shit from those bands is good. Even the Rock Brigade early/teen era of Def Leopard wasn’t bad. But the acceptance and push by MTV to sell fashion and the race to outdo other glam acts resulted in mush.
I don't disagree with that and wasn't intending to initiate a scholarly reappraisal of the sonic influence of Warrant. It's Warrant. They stood out as a great name on that poster. And it's not like it was the Velvet Underground and Tom Waits we are comparing them to, it was Disturbed and Skillet. Greatness is relative.
Haha fair. I still laugh every time I see Disturbed in a lineup and remember the lead singer being interviewed by the dark mistress Juliya who straight up asked him about the lack of respect they get in real metal circles only for him to agree that they were the Rodney Dangerfield of metal. I’m sure they have fans that will defend them. But nah.
Honestly, I came to music via the summer of 1988: Guns N Roses, Def Leppard, Robert Plant, Cheap Trick. That lead me back to the Stones, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix but also to 80's pop metal like Hanoi Rocks, Poison, Cinderella. It was all formative. I consumed it all. Metallica, Ratt, Megadeth, Junkyard, it was all great.
Just listening to much more music, listening to it with passion as opposed to just listening to it as atmosphere, lead to me embracing a lot more music regardless of genre.
So yeah, even goofy ass acts like Warrant still hold a place in my heart. I don't think they're cool but they were fun.
Post by Ambassador Of Fun on Jan 29, 2022 17:53:19 GMT -5
If you’re framing Warrant, Poison, etc., as metal bands, of COURSE they were cheesy, but I’m not sure they ever took themselves that seriously. (See: any music video they ever made.) However, they had some GREAT pop songs that I still enjoy unreservedly to this day. That is a hill I will die on. (Full disclosure: I also cut my teeth on Poison, Warrant, Skid Row, Tesla, Slaughter, etc. If I hadn’t developed a passion for them at the time I did, my musical journey would have looked very different.)
If you’re framing Warrant, Poison, etc., as metal bands, of COURSE they were cheesy, but I’m not sure they ever took themselves that seriously. (See: any music video they ever made.) However, they had some GREAT pop songs that I still enjoy unreservedly to this day. That is a hill I will die on. (Full disclosure: I also cut my teeth on Poison, Warrant, Skid Row, Tesla, Slaughter, etc. If I hadn’t developed a passion for them at the time I did, my musical journey would have looked very different.)
Here's what I'd tell you as a poster I appreciate, so it's without animosity. Like CD said, his early stuff led him back to earlier rock. We get to the future or an appreciation of the past in music however we get there. Pretty much anyone who was a metal fan by the later middle 80's already didn't follow most of that stuff as it was considered fairly plastic/commercial for that era and promoted by MTV. I'll admit to some of Skid Row as a bit of a guilty pleasure, but otherwise there was enough going on in those worlds for people who knew where to look. And that's fine. Like I said, we get wherever we get however we get there. I'll save my journey through all that for my retirement interview with Silver Surfer, but OG I came to music via Peter Paul & Mary, Johnny Mathis and Nat King Cole. I do think a lot of those hair metal bands you listed did take themselves seriously whereas "grifter" bands like Twisted Sister and shit were obviously for the cash and lol's. I remember watching an interview with the leader of Warrant who looked at the camera with a straight face and said, "I know people think we suck, but we don't." I was left blinking at that comment - complete real world wtf moment. Winger is the ultimate test of pussy metal even though Kip Winger proved himself to be an actually good broadway singer. Also, Tesla in the late 80's billed themselves as the last blue jean metal band which was complete b.s. but compared to their MTV contemporaries, they weren't as teased up. But it always comes back to:
I mean its the only way to beat streaming and have all of the songs in one place. My gf has her 120gb classic thats still humming and I got her a 256 touch as an anniversary present last year. I wonder if people are going to figure that out that the ipod was/is the perfect thing for music and they should go back to it.