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Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by Jim Watson on Nov 17, 2021 23:54:09 GMT -5
rooloo > Jortles
I could halfway see them naming teammate Jortles. Not likely, but possible. He has been playing differently, but I get that he was laying low for a reason. In either case at least its a hedge in case JTR was somehow truthing. Then either way we just need 1 more.
Post by piggy pablo on Nov 18, 2021 1:02:23 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident Theo was inspector. Jortles could be the third with JTR/Rummy but as far as hedging I don't think we need to do any. It's more about getting three shots at the third.
KPO > potent I voted him because JTR mentioned him and could see that being distancing but voting him out and certainly locking is premature here
Your reason for voting for me is because I locked? I'm just trying to be sure.
I was waiting to see what Jortles did - as the "given" in JTR's "reveal", town Jortles probably should have been the whack last night. The only other way forward is for the remaining mafia (non-Jortles category) to sell that Jortles might be the remaining mafia, trying to frame him. In the initial reaction to Tranter's whack, I didn't view Danbob, Pablo, or you as trying to do that. Jortles comes out to vote for me, that's a huge red flag (to me - I get that it isn't to anyone else).
And Jortles being the 3rd makes sense. There are a lot of pieces that fit together. He's got a preternatural ability to read people with roles, and if you go and look at his interactions around throwing Theo into the first runoff, it makes me think he saw Theo as inspector pretty early (ex. when I switched my vote from Jortles to Theo, Jortles extolled it as a "great move"). If he read that, a mafia trio of JTR/Rummy/Jortles could easily manipulate the runoff to end up one of the three of them against the one they think is inspector to force a reveal. And where did they end up? At the end of D1R2 - JTR and Jortles on Theo, while Rummy was on JTR, ensuring each moved forward.
If you want me to go through and quote Jortles questionable posts, I will do that too.
I’m going to do a reread before I vote after some meetings. Understand the rational for jortles as a hedge, but idk if that’s really worthwhile and seems kinda lazy.
KPO > potent I voted him because JTR mentioned him and could see that being distancing but voting him out and certainly locking is premature here
Your reason for voting for me is because I locked? I'm just trying to be sure.
I was waiting to see what Jortles did - as the "given" in JTR's "reveal", town Jortles probably should have been the whack last night. The only other way forward is for the remaining mafia (non-Jortles category) to sell that Jortles might be the remaining mafia, trying to frame him. In the initial reaction to Tranter's whack, I didn't view Danbob, Pablo, or you as trying to do that. Jortles comes out to vote for me, that's a huge red flag (to me - I get that it isn't to anyone else).
And Jortles being the 3rd makes sense. There are a lot of pieces that fit together. He's got a preternatural ability to read people with roles, and if you go and look at his interactions around throwing Theo into the first runoff, it makes me think he saw Theo as inspector pretty early (ex. when I switched my vote from Jortles to Theo, Jortles extolled it as a "great move"). If he read that, a mafia trio of JTR/Rummy/Jortles could easily manipulate the runoff to end up one of the three of them against the one they think is inspector to force a reveal. And where did they end up? At the end of D1R2 - JTR and Jortles on Theo, while Rummy was on JTR, ensuring each moved forward.
If you want me to go through and quote Jortles questionable posts, I will do that too.
I appreciate you giving me my due for sniping out roles quickly in the last two games.
You thinking that me, rummy and JTR knew Theo was inspector early so we had time to plan out… getting rummy and jtr in the final four, planning a fake where we guarantee a game loss via hedging… is stupid enough to where I think you may be bullshitting here and Im starting to feel more and more ok with my vote on you.
And you are pretending to think I was the sensible whack when hedging is such an obvious possibility with this town especially given last game. Of course mafia would leave me around for this exact result. Im not locking on you yet, but im not sure town Potent is even capable of this post. And to make matters worse, you didnt participate at all post reveals, but you admitted to that not being due to absence, rather you were following along and witholding your thoughts. That was a flag to begin with but was holding out for something insightful.
Your reason for voting for me is because I locked? I'm just trying to be sure.
I was waiting to see what Jortles did - as the "given" in JTR's "reveal", town Jortles probably should have been the whack last night. The only other way forward is for the remaining mafia (non-Jortles category) to sell that Jortles might be the remaining mafia, trying to frame him. In the initial reaction to Tranter's whack, I didn't view Danbob, Pablo, or you as trying to do that. Jortles comes out to vote for me, that's a huge red flag (to me - I get that it isn't to anyone else).
And Jortles being the 3rd makes sense. There are a lot of pieces that fit together. He's got a preternatural ability to read people with roles, and if you go and look at his interactions around throwing Theo into the first runoff, it makes me think he saw Theo as inspector pretty early (ex. when I switched my vote from Jortles to Theo, Jortles extolled it as a "great move"). If he read that, a mafia trio of JTR/Rummy/Jortles could easily manipulate the runoff to end up one of the three of them against the one they think is inspector to force a reveal. And where did they end up? At the end of D1R2 - JTR and Jortles on Theo, while Rummy was on JTR, ensuring each moved forward.
If you want me to go through and quote Jortles questionable posts, I will do that too.
I appreciate you giving me my due for sniping out roles quickly in the last two games.
You thinking that me, rummy and JTR knew Theo was inspector early so we had time to plan out… getting rummy and jtr in the final four, planning a fake where we guarantee a game loss via hedging… is stupid enough to where I think you may be bullshitting here and Im starting to feel more and more ok with my vote on you.
And you are pretending to think I was the sensible whack when hedging is such an obvious possibility with this town especially given last game. Of course mafia would leave me around for this exact result. Im not locking on you yet, but im not sure town Potent is even capable of this post. And to make matters worse, you didnt participate at all post reveals, but you admitted to that not being due to absence, rather you were following along and witholding your thoughts. That was a flag to begin with but was holding out for something insightful.
I guess - thanks? I'll be sure to come to this post-game to show you, in fact, that town Potent is capable of this post. This is the proof.
If you're town, you need to come up with a better answer than me, and a better reason than I was withholding my thoughts. This is what gets me so frustrated with playing with the same regulars all the time - if I'm active, I'm steering the narrative and sus, and if I'm quiet, it's a red flag because I'm withholding stuff and I'm sus.
I’m going to do a reread before I vote after some meetings. Understand the rational for jortles as a hedge, but idk if that’s really worthwhile and seems kinda lazy.
I don't think voting for Jortles is a hedge. I think it's a plausible scenario. Is it the most likely? Maybe not.
Post by potentpotables on Nov 18, 2021 11:38:11 GMT -5
Since I was withholding information, I'll share now that after D2 I had town reads on Dan/Pablo/KPO, was unsure on Tranter/Cum/Rooloo, and was 50/50 on Jortles. I appreciated the mafia whack of Tranter in that case, and feel like I'm looking for reasons to vote for Cum or Rooloo over Jortles.
I’m going to do a reread before I vote after some meetings. Understand the rational for jortles as a hedge, but idk if that’s really worthwhile and seems kinda lazy.
I don't think voting for Jortles is a hedge. I think it's a plausible scenario. Is it the most likely? Maybe not.
It’s possible but really don’t think the narrative is strong enough to consider here day 3. If you believe that Theo was inspector think the best move here is probably to exile someone not associated with the reveal or fake.
Post by Jim Watson on Nov 18, 2021 11:43:43 GMT -5
I'm feeling better about Jortles rn. I think his suspicion of Potent is well founded. However, I think Jortles needs to go either today or tomorrow since him being mafia is somewhat plausible in either scenario (third teammate of JTR/Rummy of faking Theo's teammate). I'd rather vote Potent out today.
