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In theory, let’s say Cum and Runny are both town. A easy mafia objective will be to keep them around until the end because the math here. There will be a stigma for the living player.
The bad thing is town has a tendency to throw folks like that in multiple runoffs and that can muddy the runoffs. Which might not matter as much going forward without inspector. Just saying if people are wanting to get rid of both they should think of a strategy for that and not drag it out for rounds.
Personally I’d rather give them a round or two and create runoffs elsewhere. That’s if I even decide we should vote them both off.
I basically agree w that, but there's still potential that going all in for Rum/Cum D4 is a losing strategy, so the d3 exile really needs to be lock tight
AND cordial, really need to not getting into d4 and voting someone because they pissed you off d3, easy thing for mafia to play
Right. Fudged up my math not counting losing a round to voting Otter off.
Gonna be a tight one if we go this route and are wrong.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
you’re really stretching here. Not surprising after the least effective reveal I can remember. I’m glad that the the actual inspector is staying hidden at least.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I think cum is the move here though. MD making posts @ otter makes them nervous so cum puts him in this position to force an early reveal. When he does reveal, cum isn’t around to give the clear to the whack and MD gets his given name out because of it.
silly post. Mafia doesn’t work alone so all id have to do is give a go ahead if true, but it wasn’t.
well if no one else is going to move otter would you want to even it back up?
Yeah I can do that, had no real reason to vote for you anyway. otter> Maddog > Jortles
very interesting move, right before the inspector reveal. Otter moved to the confirmed town before he was confirmed, so he could be protecting one of Rummy or Cum
Post by Insane Cum Posse on Feb 19, 2022 10:37:02 GMT -5
I missed a lot last night while I was at a show but oh well. I wish maddog had guessed someone he’s actually suspicious of and cleared me or confirmed someone else potentially. Since I knew this was more than likely a town v town runoff from the beginning this was always going to be hard.
If I’m set to be exiled here to save a possible inspector (which makes the most sense) here’s a few thots n thangs: I’m purely town. So stop running in circles about it and just admit that you’re exiling town bc it happens a lot D1. There’s 3 mafia out there. My initial guess from early last night was going to be rooloo/otter/??
Yeah I can do that, had no real reason to vote for you anyway. otter> Maddog > Jortles
very interesting move, right before the inspector reveal. Otter moved to the confirmed town before he was confirmed, so he could be protecting one of Rummy or Cum
Or as mafia he’s still winning bc he’s still not losing a teammate either way
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Feb 19, 2022 10:41:58 GMT -5
Ok so just brainstorming here, why hasn’t Maddog been whacked? I think mafia just aren’t that concerned about doing it early, they can save the early whack for later and Maddog isn’t going to have any new info between now and when he gets whacked. It’s crazy that he wasn’t whacked before he actually got his given out because he did take his time with that reveal, and yeah we probably would have gotten there anyways, you can’t really keep that kind of info to yourself with these new rules. Dad Dog I know you said you wanted some reaction to the ambiguity, but what was the purpose?
I missed a lot last night while I was at a show but oh well. I wish maddog had guessed someone he’s actually suspicious of and cleared me or confirmed someone else potentially. Since I knew this was more than likely a town v town runoff from the beginning this was always going to be hard.
If I’m set to be exiled here to save a possible inspector (which makes the most sense) here’s a few thots n thangs: I’m purely town. So stop running in circles about it and just admit that you’re exiling town bc it happens a lot D1. There’s 3 mafia out there. My initial guess from early last night was going to be rooloo/otter/??
at that point in the game it makes sense to me why he guesses someone else in the runoff, and kinda put himself in a bad position with it where he had to reveal.
Post by potentpotables on Feb 19, 2022 11:23:42 GMT -5
Voting for the given when you had just received a vote and your given was left to vote is one questionable choice.
Guessing the person voting for you, with your given, instead of either of the other two in the runoff, who has just voted for you, is another choice.
I hate to critique how a possible inspector plays their hand, but I also want to be honest about the issues I'm having with this.
Maddog is in the runoff with Otter and Jortles putting him there. Otter is the given. Then Rummy and Cum, the other two in the runoff, put Maddog in superstacked position. If I'm piecing the timeline together, he guesses Jortles before RumCum vote for him. It just seems unlikely that two mafia vote together on D1R1 - I know it happens, it obviously didn't here, but I'm trying to get to where I understand guessing Jortles midday.
Voting for the given when you had just received a vote and your given was left to vote is one questionable choice.
Guessing the person voting for you, with your given, instead of either of the other two in the runoff, who has just voted for you, is another choice.
I hate to critique how a possible inspector plays their hand, but I also want to be honest about the issues I'm having with this.
Maddog is in the runoff with Otter and Jortles putting him there. Otter is the given. Then Rummy and Cum, the other two in the runoff, put Maddog in superstacked position. If I'm piecing the timeline together, he guesses Jortles before RumCum vote for him. It just seems unlikely that two mafia vote together on D1R1 - I know it happens, it obviously didn't here, but I'm trying to get to where I understand guessing Jortles midday.
are you confused why he guessed Jortles specifically or why he guessed mid day? Because the mid day guess is like the only part of his strategy that makes sense to me
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Feb 19, 2022 11:37:13 GMT -5
I’m also having a hard time guessing the mafia strategy for revealing this early.
Cause if Maddawg is Mafia A and inspector has the name of mafia B then a reveal kills 2 thirds of their team right here. Plus inspector gets a guess and either clears a town or hits mafia c.
Pretty batshit 1st round play when they would have a chance to save him in a runoff. Unless it’s Jortles and him. But a reveal would kinda point to that possibility as well. So again it would be an incredibly risky strategy to fake this early.
Not impossible but I don’t really see the benefits.
Voting for the given when you had just received a vote and your given was left to vote is one questionable choice.
Guessing the person voting for you, with your given, instead of either of the other two in the runoff, who has just voted for you, is another choice.
I hate to critique how a possible inspector plays their hand, but I also want to be honest about the issues I'm having with this.
Maddog is in the runoff with Otter and Jortles putting him there. Otter is the given. Then Rummy and Cum, the other two in the runoff, put Maddog in superstacked position. If I'm piecing the timeline together, he guesses Jortles before RumCum vote for him. It just seems unlikely that two mafia vote together on D1R1 - I know it happens, it obviously didn't here, but I'm trying to get to where I understand guessing Jortles midday.
you’ve named my gut reaction issues w it too. It’s especially frustrating that MD went about things in this aforementioned confusing way for his D1 inspo play, then reveals when and how he did (initially not even giving the damn given!) and immediately gets pissed at town. Again, inspo is supposed to work WITH TOWN.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I'm not as convinced as most others seem to be. Which is why I called Otter out for that post.
I never do well in these fake inspector situations. I think mad dog may have done this to me before actually, which may be why he’s targeting me now. Jortles called it my “welcome to the nfl moment” if I recall correctly.
But it’s tough to argue that it’s a reach when he’s pointing out a post where I couldn’t post a gif correctly on my phone. It’s also tough to argue that it’s a terrible reveal as mafia could have whacked him immediately under the new rule.
I’m also having a hard time guessing the mafia strategy for revealing this early.
Cause if Maddawg is Mafia A and inspector has the name of mafia B then a reveal kills 2 thirds of their team right here. Plus inspector gets a guess and either clears a town or hits mafia c.
Pretty batshit 1st round play when they would have a chance to save him in a runoff. Unless it’s Jortles and him. But a reveal would kinda point to that possibility as well. So again it would be an incredibly risky strategy to fake this early.
Not impossible but I don’t really see the benefits.
we would have had the real inspector reveal by now if it was fake
Ok so just brainstorming here, why hasn’t Maddog been whacked? I think mafia just aren’t that concerned about doing it early, they can save the early whack for later and Maddog isn’t going to have any new info between now and when he gets whacked. It’s crazy that he wasn’t whacked before he actually got his given out because he did take his time with that reveal, and yeah we probably would have gotten there anyways, you can’t really keep that kind of info to yourself with these new rules. Dad Dog I know you said you wanted some reaction to the ambiguity, but what was the purpose?
there was none. It is either a fake (which it is) or a colossal fuck up.
I’m also having a hard time guessing the mafia strategy for revealing this early.
Cause if Maddawg is Mafia A and inspector has the name of mafia B then a reveal kills 2 thirds of their team right here. Plus inspector gets a guess and either clears a town or hits mafia c.
Pretty batshit 1st round play when they would have a chance to save him in a runoff. Unless it’s Jortles and him. But a reveal would kinda point to that possibility as well. So again it would be an incredibly risky strategy to fake this early.
Not impossible but I don’t really see the benefits.
we would have had the real inspector reveal by now if it was fake
why would they out themselves now? Would also be a colossal fuck up.
we would have had the real inspector reveal by now if it was fake
why would they out themselves now? Would also be a colossal fuck up.
No it wouldn’t be. with new rule , real inspo could do a midday guess rn and reveal with two roles known. Less reason to try and wait it out to get that guess in overnight as would be the case in normal rules if a fake occurred D1
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by Jim Watson on Feb 19, 2022 11:50:34 GMT -5
I believe Maddog, although the strategy was weird. But if he were faking it would definitely make more sense for the real inspector to stay hidden (if not in runoff), take normal N1 guess, guess another name right when D2 starts, and then have 1 given name, Maddog's name, and 2 extra guesses for town
Post by Jim Watson on Feb 19, 2022 11:52:50 GMT -5
While the new rule allows for an early guess on D1, I think the stronger play is having already had 2 guesses at the very beginning of D2. If you use the early guess D1, you don't have another guess answer to give out until D3
why would they out themselves now? Would also be a colossal fuck up.
No it wouldn’t be. with new rule , real inspo could do a midday guess rn and reveal with two roles known. Less reason to try and wait it out to get that guess in overnight as would be the case in normal rules if a fake occurred D1
fair point. I still think if they’re below the fray right now (eg not in the runoff, me, or maddog) they should stay hidden with the hope of getting multiple roles, but I see your point.
I believe Maddog, although the strategy was weird. But if he were faking it would definitely make more sense for the real inspector to stay hidden (if not in runoff), take normal N1 guess, guess another name right when D2 starts, and then have 1 given name, Maddog's name, and 2 extra guesses for town
I’m also having a hard time guessing the mafia strategy for revealing this early.
Cause if Maddawg is Mafia A and inspector has the name of mafia B then a reveal kills 2 thirds of their team right here. Plus inspector gets a guess and either clears a town or hits mafia c.
Pretty batshit 1st round play when they would have a chance to save him in a runoff. Unless it’s Jortles and him. But a reveal would kinda point to that possibility as well. So again it would be an incredibly risky strategy to fake this early.
Not impossible but I don’t really see the benefits.
we would have had the real inspector reveal by now if it was fake
Not necessarily but I’m not really arguing that either way. I believe Maddawg. Was just explaining why based on how I don’t see the mafia angle for faking that way.
