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Post by Jake Jortles on Mar 15, 2022 15:03:24 GMT -5
One thing to note is that the following very specific scenario is unlikely:
Silver / Dan / non-tranter living player on day 3 Silver / Cum / non-tranter living player on day 3
Dan and Cum were definitely around during the scrum at the end and could have ended the game on the spot in the last minute by switching to Tranter. In fact i'd say at any point today, Dan or Cum could have made up an excuse to move to Tranter and won the game.
This will probably not end up being helpful but if you are thinking it was something like Silver / Dan / Theo or anything along those lines, it wouldn't really make sense.
First of all - It's necessary for me to admit and point out that if the game is not ending, it completely eliminates the chance that Tranter and / or Dan were desperate for that round to end. The chef's kiss was obviously not intended as a post game flex. It does not mean that they are town, but those accusations by myself and silver were incorrect.
First of all - It's necessary for me to admit and point out that if the game is not ending, it completely eliminates the chance that Tranter and / or Dan were desperate for that round to end. The chef's kiss was obviously not intended as a post game flex. It does not mean that they are town, but those accusations by myself and silver were incorrect.
there’s always a big of post exile doubt but I would ballpark it at 70%. I can’t get over him editing that post. He’s been playing for years and it’s a fundamental rule. He knows that. Felt like he slipped up a little and panicked.
there’s always a big of post exile doubt but I would ballpark it at 70%. I can’t get over him editing that post. He’s been playing for years and it’s a fundamental rule. He knows that. Felt like he slipped up a little and panicked.
Im obviously not with you on this point, but IF he was mafia, I think people should find it noteworthy that he wasn’t interested in bringing LLL into a 2 way runoff with him right there at the end. I asked him to do it trying to save him, then he said it was futile then I asked again… all just to prolong his chances in the game.
The only options that make sense here are 1. That he truly just chose to give up or 2. Putting another mafia member with less attention on her would have been an even worse case scenario. In the event that she ended up exiled, he would still have a ton of heat on him Day 4.
IF silver was mafia, both of those options are plausible, but I think it’s at least worth thinking about.
there’s always a big of post exile doubt but I would ballpark it at 70%. I can’t get over him editing that post. He’s been playing for years and it’s a fundamental rule. He knows that. Felt like he slipped up a little and panicked.
Im obviously not with you on this point, but IF he was mafia, I think people should find it noteworthy that he wasn’t interested in bringing LLL into a 2 way runoff with him right there at the end. I asked him to do it trying to save him, then he said it was futile then I asked again… all just to prolong his chances in the game.
The only options that make sense here are 1. That he truly just chose to give up or 2. Putting another mafia member with less attention on her would have been an even worse case scenario. In the event that she ended up exiled, he would still have a ton of heat on him Day 4.
IF silver was mafia, both of those options are plausible, but I think it’s at least worth thinking about.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Cum > Dan Jortles > Tranter Silver > Dan Tranter > Silver Theo > Tranter Cum > Dan > Theo Dan > Silver LLL > Theo Silver > Dan > Tranter Cum > Dan > Theo > Silver Theo > Tranter > Jortles Silver > Dan > Tranter > Jortles Dan > Silver > Theo Silver > Dan > Tranter > Jortles > Tranter Theo > Tranter > Jortles > Silver LLL>>>Theo>>>Silver
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Cum > Dan Jortles > Tranter Silver > Dan Tranter > Silver Theo > Tranter Cum > Dan > Theo Dan > Silver LLL > Theo Silver > Dan > Tranter Cum > Dan > Theo > Silver Theo > Tranter > Jortles Silver > Dan > Tranter > Jortles Dan > Silver > Theo Silver > Dan > Tranter > Jortles > Tranter Theo > Tranter > Jortles > Silver LLL>>>Theo>>>Silver
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
What!? I am on the same track as other people have been on and it makes perfect sense with the Potent whack. It is also one of the same tracks Cum said she would be on today, and now she is dead. I worked yesterday and gave up on trying to reason or intervene in the pages and pages of spinning that Mafia has been putting us through. There is no way two townies would do that to their own team, knowing it isn’t helpful and makes it impossible to read the game. It makes no sense at all. Maybe one was a townie being dragged around.
Follow the whacks and the vote associations.
Rooloo—I think pointed to very few. MD as a direct vote that he didn’t move off of. The “book him” comment, which I totally missed as a possible clue until it was brought up. Maybe points to MD. Maybe Silver.
Potent whack—the four names he said he wanted to see in the run-off. Rooloo, himself, JTR and Theo. He also did glean votes on Tranter, Cum, Theo and settled on MD.
Cum really seemed to think that Tranter is town. I can’t see a Tranter Mafia whacking Cum. I assume he would be the person she would want to keep around. Cum also said little if anything about Dan. I can’t see a Dan Mafia whacking cum. She said she would vote for Theo, but outright said she thought it was Jortles and Silver. Jortles has been my strongest town read, in part because he had so little involvement in the game and my experience with a Mafia jortles, as a previous partner of his, is that he likes to feel like he is owning town. His antics yesterday have shaken my feelings on him a little. Maybe I’m wrong about Jortles, but I’m still going to keep him at the lower part of my list for right now. I have to read through the rest of this mess. The silver/Theo association is just so strong. It makes sense in the voting. It makes sense in the whacks.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
What!? I am on the same track as other people have been on and it makes perfect sense with the Potent whack. It is also one of the same tracks Cum said she would be on today, and now she is dead. I worked yesterday and gave up on trying to reason or intervene in the pages and pages of spinning that Mafia has been putting us through. There is no way two townies would do that to their own team, knowing it isn’t helpful and makes it impossible to read the game. It makes no sense at all. Maybe one was a townie being dragged around.
Follow the whacks and the vote associations.
Rooloo—I think pointed to very few. MD as a direct vote that he didn’t move off of. The “book him” comment, which I totally missed as a possible clue until it was brought up. Maybe points to MD. Maybe Silver.
Potent whack—the four names he said he wanted to see in the run-off. Rooloo, himself, JTR and Theo. He also did glean votes on Tranter, Cum, Theo and settled on MD.
Cum really seemed to think that Tranter is town. I can’t see a Tranter Mafia whacking Cum. I assume he would be the person she would want to keep around. Cum also said little if anything about Dan. I can’t see a Dan Mafia whacking cum. She said she would vote for Theo, but outright said she thought it was Jortles and Silver. Jortles has been my strongest town read, in part because he had so little involvement in the game and my experience with a Mafia jortles, as a previous partner of his, is that he likes to feel like he is owning town. His antics yesterday have shaken my feelings on him a little. Maybe I’m wrong about Jortles, but I’m still going to keep him at the lower part of my list for right now. I have to read through the rest of this mess. The silver/Theo association is just so strong. It makes sense in the voting. It makes sense in the whacks.
every single game potent brings up the last 4 voters and no votes in the initial votes as a group to take a look at, because statistically there is a decent chance that there is a mafia in any given group of 4. If we’re looking at that group of Potent, me, Rooloo, and JTR, JTR is likely the mafia if we think potent was whacked for voting JTR out with this reasoning.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
There have been a couple occasions where I noticed mafia teammates using the same word like that in thread. I don't think its completely ridiculous to suggest that it could be an unintended result of the groupthink going on in their chat. It's proooobably not enough to put weight into on Day 4, but when I read Theo's dangerous right there I was scrolling down to point this out instantly.
Additionally... here's another insane and overly simplistic theory that I want flagged for content post game if it ends up being correct.
In this game, there were exactly 3 people that had small jokes of yours wooshed over their heads and then never really addressed or admitted that they should have caught the joke. Theo / Silver / LLL. LLL was the night time JTR name post. Theo and silver knew and realized that was a fine joke to make. But then Theo and Silver didn't realize the "im confirmed mafia" joke... and then they also found it to be a major issue. Apologies to any of them if they were town, but I was actually a little stunned that they couldn't instantly recognized that you were joking.
Trust me I'm aware that I've made legitimate gaffes this game like when I thought you could still take me out of a runoff early on when the round was closed. Very sloppy play. But those were legitimate sloppiness and I made it clear I knew I missed something. Silver and Theo doubling down on a missed joke and trying to drum up serious concern based on it was very weird. It would be fine if they were like "hey I know your joking, but I think you are joking like this to appear as town."
After my read through, I'm starting to think I may have been duped by Silver. I'm still not all the way there, but yeah idk.
Just finished a reread. Pretty sold on silver being mafia and tranter being town. Jortles also is also reading town, the push at the end of D3 feels very lone wolfy, along with the n1 whack being a md voter. Silver - maddog or JTR - LLL or Theo seems the most likely. Lean Theo since he hopped on jortles last minute push in a low key way.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Mar 16, 2022 12:32:05 GMT -5
So I even entertained that possibility in a post awhile back.
What about Rooloo? Whose name do you think he had if he was Inspector?
Why Cum? Why were these the whacks? Which votes lineup?
These are general questions for townies to consider. And this is why you look suspicious, Theo. If you are somehow not Mafia, look at these things. This is how town gets out of this heaping pile of shit.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Just finished a reread. Pretty sold on silver being mafia and tranter being town. Jortles also is also reading town, the push at the end of D3 feels very lone wolfy, along with the n1 whack being a md voter. Silver - maddog or JTR - LLL or Theo seems the most likely. Lean Theo since he hopped on jortles last minute push in a low key way.
Dan > Theo
i made that push on Jortles because he was completely silent until that point in d3, if he is mafia I’m not letting him coast through a day just like that. When he did come in and talk, it was pretty reasonable and I don’t feel like I have any reason to believe he’s mafia right now.
Also LLL has not faced any pressure whatsoever this game, and should absolutely be in the runoff today. I think she’s also worth considering as a possible Silver partner, due to voting for JTR over Silver D2
There have been a couple occasions where I noticed mafia teammates using the same word like that in thread. I don't think its completely ridiculous to suggest that it could be an unintended result of the groupthink going on in their chat. It's proooobably not enough to put weight into on Day 4, but when I read Theo's dangerous right there I was scrolling down to point this out instantly.
Additionally... here's another insane and overly simplistic theory that I want flagged for content post game if it ends up being correct.
In this game, there were exactly 3 people that had small jokes of yours wooshed over their heads and then never really addressed or admitted that they should have caught the joke. Theo / Silver / LLL. LLL was the night time JTR name post. Theo and silver knew and realized that was a fine joke to make. But then Theo and Silver didn't realize the "im confirmed mafia" joke... and then they also found it to be a major issue. Apologies to any of them if they were town, but I was actually a little stunned that they couldn't instantly recognized that you were joking.
Trust me I'm aware that I've made legitimate gaffes this game like when I thought you could still take me out of a runoff early on when the round was closed. Very sloppy play. But those were legitimate sloppiness and I made it clear I knew I missed something. Silver and Theo doubling down on a missed joke and trying to drum up serious concern based on it was very weird. It would be fine if they were like "hey I know your joking, but I think you are joking like this to appear as town."
After my read through, I'm starting to think I may have been duped by Silver. I'm still not all the way there, but yeah idk.
I completely agree with the jokes read regarding Theo and Silver. I pointed this out earlier too. I’ll give LLL a pass on not getting my inspector joke as she knows me less than the other two.
Theo has also said stuff like “I’m on edge” and felt way too serious at times. There’s really no point in this game, even if it’s d5 or during a reveal that you should ever be that serious or anti joke.