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It's really interesting what being in two 3 year relationships will do to your count. My mental count feels below inforoo's average.. goddamn, maybe my 40's will be better?
In most scenarios if you give or get head, the participants know that there is another level to reach. Sometimes one person doesn’t want to “go all the way.” As an example if a girl gives a guy a blowjob but then would like to keep it at that… the guy adding that girl to his body count is weird.
I think it should be whatever “going all the way” means to you. Getting your shit fondled a little bit at a foam party in 2010 isn’t sex in terms of what people understand you to mean in human conversation sorry.
First, no need to tell me to relax - just bantering, bud. It’s all in good fun.
Second, I do find it funny that any time I say “Sex doesn’t necessarily have to be penetrative or even involve the genitals,” people’s response is usually, “Oh, well, someone passingly copping a feel isn’t sex!” as if that’s the only other option. There’s a a fairly wide range of activities out there that fall all along the spectrum of who’s doing what to whom.
Personally, though, I think oral sex is sex. It’s right there in the title.
ok glad it was just banter. Looked pretty serious.
What if a guy eats a girl out. Then the next day you ask the girl if she had sex with the guy and she says “no I wasn’t ready to go all the way.” Should the guy be adding that girl to his body count?
So a full 31% of folks willing to vote (12 voters)have made love to over 50 people? Psychology says no, once again. clarifying: those willing to vote in a poll like this feel blah blah. We all know what I mean here but i'm too f'd up to convey.
Some might be lying, but I have a feeling this group is more likely to tilt towards having an above average number of partners.
So a full 31% of folks willing to vote (12 voters)have made love to over 50 people? Psychology says no, once again. clarifying: those willing to vote in a poll like this feel blah blah. We all know what I mean here but i'm too f'd up to convey.
Some might be lying, but I have a feeling this group is more likely to tilt towards having an above average number of partners.
I can’t speak for everyone but my own personal experience is that heroin was a hell of a drug.
First, no need to tell me to relax - just bantering, bud. It’s all in good fun.
Second, I do find it funny that any time I say “Sex doesn’t necessarily have to be penetrative or even involve the genitals,” people’s response is usually, “Oh, well, someone passingly copping a feel isn’t sex!” as if that’s the only other option. There’s a a fairly wide range of activities out there that fall all along the spectrum of who’s doing what to whom.
Personally, though, I think oral sex is sex. It’s right there in the title.
ok glad it was just banter. Looked pretty serious.
What if a guy eats a girl out. Then the next day you ask the girl if she had sex with the guy and she says “no I wasn’t ready to go all the way.” Should the guy be adding that girl to his body count?
Sure! One would hope that, if the encounter was consensual, we're not going to end up in a situation in which the two parties are in a court of law debating whether what they did counts as sex, or not. A "body count" is a purely subjective thing anyway, not, like, a state-sanctioned document. If the guy in question has a wider view of sex than just PiV, bully for him!
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ok glad it was just banter. Looked pretty serious.
What if a guy eats a girl out. Then the next day you ask the girl if she had sex with the guy and she says “no I wasn’t ready to go all the way.” Should the guy be adding that girl to his body count?
Sure! One would hope that, if the encounter was consensual, we're not going to end up in a situation in which the two parties are in a court of law debating whether what they did counts as sex, or not. A "body count" is a purely subjective thing anyway, not, like, a state-sanctioned document. If the guy in question has a wider view of sex than just PiV, bully for him!
when I was in the shower just now I thought of a counter point to myself which is those Christians who used to do anal to stay pure because they didn’t think it counted
I'd definitely be bumped up to the next bracket if thinks like purely oral / fingering etc were counted, but I've never counted that before so it doesn't feel right to count it now. But I totally agree that depending on the people and their parts methodologies may differ
Post by Jake Jortles on Apr 8, 2022 6:53:03 GMT -5
I’m still not in on oral counting. It doesn’t feel right in the gut and I’ll need to think more about why. But I think it’s because most of the the couples know they haven’t “gone all the way”… and that’s kinda how I define sex when I’m talking in practical conversations. I think 95% of people would be rightfully skeptical if I told them I’ve had sex with 60 people only for them to learn in the next minute that 50 of them were oral or me jerking off with a girl living in Germany on Chatroulette.
I’m still not in on oral counting. It doesn’t feel right in the gut and I’ll need to think more about why. But I think it’s because most of the the couples know they haven’t “gone all the way”… and that’s kinda how I define sex when I’m talking in practical conversations. I think 95% of people would be rightfully skeptical if I told them I’ve had sex with 60 people only for them to learn in the next minute that 50 of them were oral or me jerking off with a girl living in Germany on Chatroulette.
So if you gave a woman oral, and she in return gave you oral, would you count that or no?
I'd have a theory, if you have a lower number of partners - you might count things like oral or mutual. For someone like Jortles who has apparently hooked up with half of Duval - not so much.
I'd have a theory, if you have a lower number of partners - you might count things like oral or mutual. For someone like Jortles who has apparently hooked up with half of Duval - not so much.
I have friends very actively involved in the kink community here that would strongly dispute this theory.
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I had a friend who'd rather quack a dude than blow him because she thought oral was more intimate, so more coitus than fellatio partners. so, to each their own subjective view I guess.
I’m still not in on oral counting. It doesn’t feel right in the gut and I’ll need to think more about why. But I think it’s because most of the the couples know they haven’t “gone all the way”… and that’s kinda how I define sex when I’m talking in practical conversations. I think 95% of people would be rightfully skeptical if I told them I’ve had sex with 60 people only for them to learn in the next minute that 50 of them were oral or me jerking off with a girl living in Germany on Chatroulette.
So if you gave a woman oral, and she in return gave you oral, would you count that or no?
I personally wouldn't include that, but Im actually not sure if that's occurred for me. Trying to rack my brain but I feel like most non penetration events have either been one direction or they were followed up with penetration during another encounter.
I'd have a theory, if you have a lower number of partners - you might count things like oral or mutual. For someone like Jortles who has apparently hooked up with half of Duval - not so much.
im in a pretty normal number range looking at the poll.
If you tried to make someone else cum that also was sex.
I need to circle back to refute this because ain’t NO WAY I’m counting like those guys in Hs/early college who fingered me, I gave a half hearted handjob to (handjobs CAN be sexy, but they weren’t back then - not to me anyway), or god forbid the handful of dudes who thought I wanted to be dry humped as we made out still half clothed. They may have been trying to get off there but they certainly aren’t making it onto any list of mine lol
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Post by man1cpixiedreamgirl on Apr 8, 2022 8:04:40 GMT -5
Wow, this was a very active thread while I was asleep!
1. Has anyone considered that if you can get an STI from it, maybe you should count it as sex? Just a thought.
2. It's generally ableist to define things as penetration being the only form of counting as sex, but then again, that would fall in line with the idea of a "body count" anyway.
3. I think one of the reasons I don't know my body count (except in a very-general-guessing-way) is that I only keep track of the sex partners I've had in between STI testings. And a lot of the parties I go to requires a recent test to be admitted, so I don't even keep count when I go to those. I'm friends with a lot of people I know from that scene, so sometimes there's play outside of that, but we're all busy so it ends up being there mostly.
4. I think bisexual people who have decent experience of people with both genitalia are the ultimate authority on this, and I'll be asking the GF when she's done with yoga what she thinks.
I personally wouldn't include that, but Im actually not sure if that's occurred for me. Trying to rack my brain but I feel like most non penetration events have either been one direction or they were followed up with penetration during another encounter.
Now that's just a shame tbh, maybe tmi but after a woman gives you oral she's generally going to be very turned on from that act itself so returning the favor is generally well received, and vice versa. YMMV.
I personally wouldn't include that, but Im actually not sure if that's occurred for me. Trying to rack my brain but I feel like most non penetration events have either been one direction or they were followed up with penetration during another encounter.
Now that's just a shame tbh, maybe tmi but after a woman gives you oral she's generally going to be very turned on from that act itself so returning the favor is generally well received, and vice versa. YMMV.
Right but every time this has happened it has evolved to penetration afterwards. Any time that Ive only received oral but not returned, it isnt due to a lack of an offer either.
I personally wouldn't include that, but Im actually not sure if that's occurred for me. Trying to rack my brain but I feel like most non penetration events have either been one direction or they were followed up with penetration during another encounter.
Now that's just a shame tbh, maybe tmi but after a woman gives you oral she's generally going to be very turned on from that act itself so returning the favor is generally well received, and vice versa. YMMV.
this is definitely true of me now because i only give oral when i'm really down to do it (which is basically anytime i'm genuinely into someone - but i don't like super casual oral anymore), but back in college i wouldn't say this was always the case, sadly.
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Now that's just a shame tbh, maybe tmi but after a woman gives you oral she's generally going to be very turned on from that act itself so returning the favor is generally well received, and vice versa. YMMV.
Right but every time this has happened it has evolved to penetration afterwards. Any time that Ive only received oral but not returned, it isnt due to a lack of an offer either.
I understand completely, I think penetration is the most boring part of sex fwiw so my view may be different
Right but every time this has happened it has evolved to penetration afterwards. Any time that Ive only received oral but not returned, it isnt due to a lack of an offer either.
I understand completely, I think penetration is the most boring part of sex fwiw so my view may be different
All sex is boring unless you are in public anyways.
Now that's just a shame tbh, maybe tmi but after a woman gives you oral she's generally going to be very turned on from that act itself so returning the favor is generally well received, and vice versa. YMMV.
this is definitely true of me now because i only give oral when i'm really down to do it (which is basically anytime i'm genuinely into someone - but i don't like super casual oral anymore), but back in college i wouldn't say this was always the case, sadly.
Oh 100%, for Jortles sake I hope only girls that are genuinely into him are polishing that trailer hitch
this is definitely true of me now because i only give oral when i'm really down to do it (which is basically anytime i'm genuinely into someone - but i don't like super casual oral anymore), but back in college i wouldn't say this was always the case, sadly.
Oh 100%, for Jortles sake I hope only girls that are genuinely into him are polishing that trailer hitch
I think my number really only goes up by a few if I count oral. Getting a random blowjob without ever doing everything else is just not a big part of my life.
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It's really interesting what being in two 3 year relationships will do to your count. My mental count feels below inforoo's average.. goddamn, maybe my 40's will be better?
It's really interesting what being in two 3 year relationships will do to your count. My mental count feels below inforoo's average.. goddamn, maybe my 40's will be better?
Imagine being in one 22-year relationship.
The question is, do you WANT to be sexually adventurous? For me, I did and being a monogamous relationship shut that down completely - what I identify with now is just because of being on a level of personal security I didn't feel in my late 20's-early 30's.
So, I'll admit, I'm embarrassed that I have a basically vanilla sex life and the last two days have sealed that up
GF is weighing in. She says “Rare is the man in my experience who ONLY wants head. Most like it as an appetizer but wanna slide it in pretty quick. It’s the difference between wearing a nice windbreaker and a cozy coat.”
The question is, do you WANT to be sexually adventurous? For me, I did and being a monogamous relationship shut that down completely - what I identify with now is just because of being on a level of personal security I didn't feel in my late 20's-early 30's.
So, I'll admit, I'm embarrassed that I have a basically vanilla sex life and the last two days have sealed that up
There is nothing to be embarrassed about, there is no choice on this poll that is inherently better than another.