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Eh, you aleady (mostly) gangsta rap in the 80's tho, but the genre really hit off and came in the mainstream in the 90's tho
yeah i didn't know how to respond to Ambassador Of Fun 's post lol. hip-hop started in the 80s, hit in the 90s, and continues to be the most popular music genre today. rock started in the 50s i guess? and grunge is a subgenre of rock 40 years later, and burned out after a handful of years. so comparing the two is comparing a genre and a subgenre. a better comparison would be hip-hop vs rock music, or some subgenre of hip-hop vs grunge.
The only subgenre we got was trap and that didn't even get a fair shot lol.
yeah i didn't know how to respond to Ambassador Of Fun 's post lol. hip-hop started in the 80s, hit in the 90s, and continues to be the most popular music genre today. rock started in the 50s i guess? and grunge is a subgenre of rock 40 years later, and burned out after a handful of years. so comparing the two is comparing a genre and a subgenre. a better comparison would be hip-hop vs rock music, or some subgenre of hip-hop vs grunge.
The only subgenre we got was trap and that didn't even get a fair shot lol.
i'm trying to think of a hip-hop subgenre that was as reactionary as grunge was to the prevailing rock music at the time. maybe it's more of a scene, like the entire scene of "dirty south" hip-hop finally said it's not just about NYC and LA.
going back to dre maybe g-funk is what i'm looking for. west coast rap existed before then obviously but g-funk really injected a groove and an ease into hip-hop that made it more palatable for radio play.
The only subgenre we got was trap and that didn't even get a fair shot lol.
i'm trying to think of a hip-hop subgenre that was as reactionary as grunge was to the prevailing rock music at the time. maybe it's more of a scene, like the entire scene of "dirty south" hip-hop finally said it's not just about NYC and LA.
going back to dre maybe g-funk is what i'm looking for. west coast rap existed before then obviously but g-funk really injected a groove and an ease into hip-hop that made it more palatable for radio play.
Gansta rap, trap, hyphy, boom bap, and whatever people call mumble rap could all be sub-genres of hip-hop.
Grunge came out of nowhere, peaked and burned out when Cobain pretty much passed away. The cultural impact the following years was basically nothing. Now again, kids are getting their inspiration mostly from Kurt. But the genre literally falls off completely when you take Cobain out of the picture. Besides, there's better emo genres out there than growling grunge..
Soundgarden broke up after down on the upside tour. I think that was early ‘95. Layne Staley died in 2002, but they didn’t release anything after self-titles AIC in 1995. Pearl Jam was still going, but that was the only one of the big 4 that stayed active during that period.
Also grunge/that era rock + hiphop is somewhat responsible for rage rock. I posted it a couple years ago, but the soundtrack to the unity movie Judgment Night featured hip hop and grunge/rock band collaborations. Some of it is pretty great. Most people know DMC/Aerosmith’s Walk This Way and Anthrax/Public Enemy’s Bring the Noise. Again the album and movie (Cuba Gooding Jr. & Emilio Estevez) were examples of white and black unity in the aftermath of the riots following the beating of Rodney King.
Just Another Victim - Helmet & House of Pain Fallin - De La Soul & Teenage Fan Club Me, Myself and My Microphone - Run DMC & Living Colour Judgment Night - Onyx & Biohazard Disorder - Ice-T & Slayer Another Body Murdered - Faith No More & Boo-Yaa T.R.I.B.E. I Love You Mary Jane - Sonic Youth & Cypress Hill Freak Momma - Mudhoney & Sir Mix-A-Lot Missing Link - Del the Funky Homosapian & Dinosaur Jr. Come and Die - Therapy? & Fatal Real Thing - Pearl Jam & Cypress Hill.
Grunge came out of nowhere, peaked and burned out when Cobain pretty much passed away. The cultural impact the following years was basically nothing. Now again, kids are getting their inspiration mostly from Kurt. But the genre literally falls off completely when you take Cobain out of the picture. Besides, there's better emo genres out there than growling grunge..
Soundgarden broke up after down on the upside tour. I think that was early ‘95. Layne Staley died in 2002, but they didn’t release anything after self-titles AIC in 1995. Pearl Jam was still going, but that was the only one of the big 4 that stayed active during that period.
Yes, yes, grunge became an aesthetic later once it was seized on and monetized, but Kurt Cobain didn't wear flannel on stage because he was putting on a costume - those were just his clothes. As a teenager at the time growing up sheltered as fuck in rural/suburban KY, the idea that my introverted ass could ever get on stage and perform music seemed crazy. You had to be a virtuoso, you had to be willing to throw on some leather pants and dump a bucket of hairspray on your head, or get full tattoo sleeves, or *something* like that - being a rock star meant adopting affectations in a way that I just knew I never could. Then, along came Pearl Jam on SNL playing "Alive" (this is just the rehearsal - the real performance doesn't exist on Youtube, for some reason):
and it dawned on me that all I needed was a guitar and some feelings, and it wouldn't matter if I was just wearing jeans and a t-shirt, or whatever. Again - basic now, but huge then. Seeing that performance literally changed my life - I never would've picked up a guitar (or any of the other instruments I picked up later), never would've written a song, never would have gotten on either the musical or theatrical stage, if I hadn't seen that. I listened to that song literally every day for a year after I was able to track down a tape of it (like I said: I was sheltered AF).
And yes, once grunge got popular, the music and fashion industries got a hold of it, and it became a cliche…
We all wore flannels in the winters during hardcore because it was the easiest over shirt to take off and tie around your waist to slam dance. Also some venues didn’t have great HVAC systems. So it would be cold as shit outside but often hot and stuffy. You aren’t losing a tied around shirt. They cost $7-10 before grunge. As you said, once Madison Ave got a hold of it, they went up to $40-50-60.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Also grunge/that era rock + hiphop is somewhat responsible for rage rock. I posted it a couple years ago, but the soundtrack to the unity movie Judgment Night featured hip hop and grunge/rock band collaborations. Some of it is pretty great. Most people know DMC/Aerosmith’s Walk This Way and Anthrax/Public Enemy’s Bring the Noise. Again the album and movie (Cuba Gooding Jr. & Emilio Estevez) were examples of white and black unity in the aftermath of the riots following the beating of Rodney King.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Also grunge/that era rock + hiphop is somewhat responsible for rage rock. I posted it a couple years ago, but the soundtrack to the unity movie Judgment Night featured hip hop and grunge/rock band collaborations. Some of it is pretty great. Most people know DMC/Aerosmith’s Walk This Way and Anthrax/Public Enemy’s Bring the Noise. Again the album and movie (Cuba Gooding Jr. & Emilio Estevez) were examples of white and black unity in the aftermath of the riots following the beating of Rodney King.
this is an absolutely unhinged take
Say what you want about the movie and its soundtrack. If you didn’t get the unity aspect of it, that’s on you.
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Aug 1, 2022 11:43:38 GMT -5
sometimes you think you've seen it all, then you're confronted with a take like "actually, the extremely mediocre film Judgment Night represented a shining beacon of racial unity following the 1993 riots in los angeles"
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sometimes you think you've seen it all, then you're confronted with a take like "actually, the extremely mediocre film Judgment Night represented a shining beacon of racial unity following the 1993 riots in los angeles"
The riots were in 1992 - the year before the movie came out. You probably know that racial tensions were still pretty strong in the aftermath of the beating and riots. Getting together a bunch of white and black musicians from rock and rap to do a soundtrack for a movie where the two lead protagonists are again white and black wasn't an accident even if some of the collaborations were all white or all black. It was also fusion of two different music forms if you want to only look at it in basic terms. It's really not that difficult to notice. But go head on and talk some more shit.
Post by Teddy Flair on Aug 1, 2022 12:01:03 GMT -5
I've been listening to more country lately and of course the bad is unforgivably awful but man when it's good, it's top tier. Might be the genre with the lowest floor but also an incredibly high ceiling.
I've been listening to more country lately and of course the bad is unforgivably awful but man when it's good, it's top tier. Might be the genre with the lowest floor but also an incredibly high ceiling.
It's a pretty easy fix, invent a genre and put all the good country in it, then vote out country
I've been listening to more country lately and of course the bad is unforgivably awful but man when it's good, it's top tier. Might be the genre with the lowest floor but also an incredibly high ceiling.
It's a pretty easy fix, invent a genre and put all the good country in it, then vote out country
