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i do think the AM popularity is vastly underestimated on these boards but i agree that theyre not as appealing to the general coachella audience than the current rumored top 3. I could see them headlining eventually though, espeically given how their streaming numbers have skyrocketed the past few years
Many have already seen them too when they were touring better albums. They are great, but do feel a little dated and less appealing after a couple of lackluster releases.
Their day headlining Primavera LA in 2022 never sold out, don’t think they’d move crazy tickets
But it was the busiest day of the 3 thats for sure. I kept running into people asking which stage Arctic Monkeys were playing at so they could camp out for the day.
i do think the AM popularity is vastly underestimated on these boards but i agree that theyre not as appealing to the general coachella audience than the current rumored top 3. I could see them headlining eventually though, espeically given how their streaming numbers have skyrocketed the past few years
But thats why you book as a "weak" name amongst the 3. If you had AM, Taylor Swift and like SZA headlining I doubt anyone would give a shit about AM being there when you have the biggest live act on the planet and one of the hottest ones on the bill. I mean that was the thinking with Phoenix in 2013. They wouldve had The Stones along with the 2 reunions and a deep undercard.
Booking Arctic Monkeys to headline would drive nearly zero additional press for Coachella. Sure they got fans that'll fill seats but they would hardly create any buzz or attention. Staying in the news cycle is important for Coachella and Arctic Monkeys don't really help there at all while Tyler, Lana and Doja do. Not gonna happen.
I agree with you 90% of the time but don’t really agree here
I’m not sure what kind of buzz or attention, for example, Tyler is going to create outside of the music press for headlining this and he headlines a SoCal fest annually. Cool if it’s a new era, but it’s not an enigmatic star like Frank or big reunion that will make millions of East coasters stay up until 2 AM to see. What news cycle is there from Lana playing this? Spoiler alert - she’ll play a heartfelt, sleepy 90 minutes from her critically acclaimed albums and probably say a couple things that spark a Pitchfork piece the next week. Do people really care about Doja Cat the way they would care about a Kanye or Travis Scott “oh they went there!” pick?
AM is also absolutely massive in Latin America and Europe, there would absolutely more people flying in globally to see AM at the biggest festival in the world than there would be to see Doja Cat
Booking Arctic Monkeys to headline would drive nearly zero additional press for Coachella. Sure they got fans that'll fill seats but they would hardly create any buzz or attention. Staying in the news cycle is important for Coachella and Arctic Monkeys don't really help there at all while Tyler, Lana and Doja do. Not gonna happen.
I agree with you 90% of the time but don’t really agree here
I’m not sure what kind of buzz or attention, for example, Tyler is going to create outside of the music press for headlining this and he headlines a SoCal fest annually. Cool if it’s a new era, but it’s not an enigmatic star like Frank or big reunion that will make millions of East coasters stay up until 2 AM to see. What news cycle is there from Lana playing this? Spoiler alert - she’ll play a heartfelt, sleepy 90 minutes from her critically acclaimed albums and probably say a couple things that spark a Pitchfork piece the next week. Do people really care about Doja Cat the way they would care about a Kanye or Travis Scott “oh they went there!” pick?
AM is also absolutely massive in Latin America and Europe, there would absolutely more people flying in globally to see AM at the biggest festival in the world than there would be to see Doja Cat
The US press is way more likely to talk about Tyler, Lana or Doja than AM and I don't see how this is really debatable. No offense but I feel like anybody familiar with current pop culture knows this.
Just as an example, here are the past 5 years of Google Trends for these four and AM gets dominated by the others.
Simply put, Tyler, Lana and Doja have a much bigger celebrity presence than AM and that's honestly a big factor when it comes to headlining Coachella. Tyler, Lana and Doja would also easily generate more mentions and discussion on social media than AM will here. That's why I say that AM doesn't really move the needle for Coachella, they don't generate that much buzz as those others.
lmao at Arctic Monkeys. Why would Coachella book a band that just completed a massive US tour for a 2022 album that’s possibly the worst of their career. And I’m a fan of theirs. If they ever had any shot of headlining, it would’ve been right after AM in 2014, or right before AM in 2013 (had they not already played 2012).
Post by alexsandrdugin on Jan 6, 2024 21:37:41 GMT -5
Who are some leftfield acts that would completely surprise you if they were on the lineup, but that you'd be really excited about? Mine are A$AP Mob, Sonic Youth, Mazzy Star, Death Grips, Cocteau Twins, Chief Keef, Flying Lotus.
I agree with you 90% of the time but don’t really agree here
I’m not sure what kind of buzz or attention, for example, Tyler is going to create outside of the music press for headlining this and he headlines a SoCal fest annually. Cool if it’s a new era, but it’s not an enigmatic star like Frank or big reunion that will make millions of East coasters stay up until 2 AM to see. What news cycle is there from Lana playing this? Spoiler alert - she’ll play a heartfelt, sleepy 90 minutes from her critically acclaimed albums and probably say a couple things that spark a Pitchfork piece the next week. Do people really care about Doja Cat the way they would care about a Kanye or Travis Scott “oh they went there!” pick?
AM is also absolutely massive in Latin America and Europe, there would absolutely more people flying in globally to see AM at the biggest festival in the world than there would be to see Doja Cat
The US press is way more likely to talk about Tyler, Lana or Doja than AM and I don't see how this is really debatable. No offense but I feel like anybody familiar with current pop culture knows this.
Just as an example, here are the past 5 years of Google Trends for these four and AM gets dominated by the others.
Simply put, Tyler, Lana and Doja have a much bigger celebrity presence than AM and that's honestly a big factor when it comes to headlining Coachella. Tyler, Lana and Doja would also easily generate more mentions and discussion on social media than AM will here. That's why I say that AM doesn't really move the needle for Coachella, they don't generate that much buzz as those others.
Agree to disagree I guess
I don’t think Google Trends is a great metric to judge headliner buzz when, like, Lana just subbed Outside Lands and Tyler has his own festival every year. When the headliners leaked last year, Coachella was a pretty massive US trend on Twitter for the excitement around all 3, this year Coachella peaked around 25th trend in the US and fell off the map (and a lot of tweets were upset Dua Lipa isn’t playing)
If you want to talk Google Trends, AM is very similar to Tame Impala and if you normalize for This Is America, similar to Childish Gambino
lol now more than ever, I want the impossible surprises more than ever, just for the shit & giggles here… something for everyone including Coachella’s international fans and bagging the mother of newsmakers
Arctic Monkeys - Taylor Swift - Lana del Rey
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Who are some leftfield acts that would completely surprise you if they were on the lineup, but that you'd be really excited about? Mine are A$AP Mob, Sonic Youth, Mazzy Star, Death Grips, Cocteau Twins, Chief Keef, Flying Lotus.
Well Sonic Youth and Mazzy Star ain’t happening. Death grips and flying lotus are about as on brand as it gets. Cocteau Twins would be cool but 99 percent chance that wouldn’t be possible as well.
The US press is way more likely to talk about Tyler, Lana or Doja than AM and I don't see how this is really debatable. No offense but I feel like anybody familiar with current pop culture knows this.
Just as an example, here are the past 5 years of Google Trends for these four and AM gets dominated by the others.
Simply put, Tyler, Lana and Doja have a much bigger celebrity presence than AM and that's honestly a big factor when it comes to headlining Coachella. Tyler, Lana and Doja would also easily generate more mentions and discussion on social media than AM will here. That's why I say that AM doesn't really move the needle for Coachella, they don't generate that much buzz as those others.
Agree to disagree I guess
I don’t think Google Trends is a great metric to judge headliner buzz when, like, Lana just subbed Outside Lands and Tyler has his own festival every year. When the headliners leaked last year, Coachella was a pretty massive US trend on Twitter for the excitement around all 3, this year Coachella peaked around 25th trend in the US and fell off the map (and a lot of tweets were upset Dua Lipa isn’t playing)
If you want to talk Google Trends, AM is very similar to Tame Impala and if you normalize for This Is America, similar to Childish Gambino
But it’s not happening anyway, so whatever
To be fair the reason that happened was because BLACKPINK was headlining and there’s a MASSIVE K-pop fan presence on Twitter. A member of a group could trip on stage and it would be a #1 worldwide trend lmfao.