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I was shocked at how young the crowd was at the AM show in SF last year. They are bigger with gen z than you would think. An AM set at Coachella would have a bigger crowd than Doja Cat.
I don’t think Google Trends is a great metric to judge headliner buzz when, like, Lana just subbed Outside Lands and Tyler has his own festival every year. When the headliners leaked last year, Coachella was a pretty massive US trend on Twitter for the excitement around all 3, this year Coachella peaked around 25th trend in the US and fell off the map (and a lot of tweets were upset Dua Lipa isn’t playing)
If you want to talk Google Trends, AM is very similar to Tame Impala and if you normalize for This Is America, similar to Childish Gambino
But it’s not happening anyway, so whatever
To be fair the reason that happened was because BLACKPINK was headlining and there’s a MASSIVE K-pop fan presence on Twitter. A member of a group could trip on stage and it would be a #1 worldwide trend lmfao.
Yep, that’s my exact point!
2023 had arguably the biggest pop star in the world at the time this was announced in Bad Bunny, an enigmatic star making their first show in 7ish years, and an act with pretty much one of the largest fan bases in the world
None of 2024’s HLers pop like that, so if one is not available, I’m not sure why their conclusion would be to bring in Doja Cat as a headliner when she played a number of 2023 SoCal shows and played Coachella 21 months ago. Arctic Monkeys are far from an ideal solution but at least appeal to an older demographic for ticket sales and a global demographic who can travel as well. I agree with TME that Coachella will not book them though
To be fair the reason that happened was because BLACKPINK was headlining and there’s a MASSIVE K-pop fan presence on Twitter. A member of a group could trip on stage and it would be a #1 worldwide trend lmfao.
Yep, that’s my exact point!
2023 had arguably the biggest pop star in the world at the time this was announced in Bad Bunny, an enigmatic star making their first show in 7ish years, and an act with pretty much one of the largest fan bases in the world
None of 2024’s HLers pop like that, so if one is not available, I’m not sure why their conclusion would be to bring in Doja Cat as a headliner when she played a number of 2023 SoCal shows and played Coachella 21 months ago. Arctic Monkeys are far from an ideal solution but at least appeal to an older demographic for ticket sales and a global demographic who can travel as well. I agree with TME that Coachella will not book them though
Oh don’t get me wrong I’d rather AM to Doja, was just pointing out that the inclusion of BP makes those stats a bit skewed.
AM as a headliner would work if they played their old stuff, and I’m not sure they do.
lmao at Arctic Monkeys. Why would Coachella book a band that just completed a massive US tour for a 2022 album that’s possibly the worst of their career. And I’m a fan of theirs. If they ever had any shot of headlining, it would’ve been right after AM in 2014, or right before AM in 2013 (had they not already played 2012).
You can swap out AM for Doja in this post, except her tour did worse
Doja would have a bigger crowd just because there would be strong "I bet something batsh*t crazy is going to happen" energy. I think that's part of the appeal.
Doja would have a bigger crowd just because there would be strong "I bet something batsh*t crazy is going to happen" energy. I think that's part of the appeal.
She'd have a bigger crowd because the Coachella audience would be more familiar with her songs.
The Arctic Monkeys have five songs with a billion streams on Spotify (rounding up on one). Doja Cat has two I believe. “Do I Wanna Know?” is probably the biggest rock song of the 21st century, with only “Seven Nation Army” as competition. They are incredibly well known, let’s give the Coachella audience some credit
The Arctic Monkeys have five songs with a billion streams on Spotify (rounding up on one). Doja Cat has two I believe. “Do I Wanna Know?” is probably the biggest rock song of the 21st century, with only “Seven Nation Army” as competition. They are incredibly well known, let’s give the Coachella audience some credit
We spent 25 pages discussing Talking Heads
furthermore two of those (DIWK & IWBY) also closing on 2 billion rapidly
Post by TickleMeElmo on Jan 6, 2024 22:56:43 GMT -5
I would bet money that more people at Coachella in 2024 know Paint The Town Red than 505 even though 505 has twice the amount of streams.
All these songs from AM with over 1 billion streams (4) came out over 10 years ago. Doja's top songs over 1 billion streams (also 4) came out just three years ago. Are we really going to have this debate on who's songs will be more recognizable at Coachella?
The Arctic Monkeys have five songs with a billion streams on Spotify (rounding up on one). Doja Cat has two I believe. “Do I Wanna Know?” is probably the biggest rock song of the 21st century, with only “Seven Nation Army” as competition. They are incredibly well known, let’s give the Coachella audience some credit
We spent 25 pages discussing Talking Heads
Until “Do I Wanna Know?” becomes a ubiquitous chant at all sporting events, zero chance it’s bigger than “Seven Nation Army”.
It just seems like if they wanted to book AM to headline then they would’ve done it by now. Not booking them since 2012 (when they continued to grow) is some kind of evidence. Will the book them again? Maybe, but right now they really don’t fit the mold like Tyler, Lana, and Doja Cat. I think they are more interested in securing new, future audiences. The olds are going to come out no matter what because they know there’s more to the Coachella experience then just the top 3 names on the lineup.
Hate bringing this part up too because at one point it just felt like a shitty statistic, but in terms of generating buzz she has almost four times the following on instagram and obviously a heavy presence on TiK-Tok.
Who are some leftfield acts that would completely surprise you if they were on the lineup, but that you'd be really excited about? Mine are A$AP Mob, Sonic Youth, Mazzy Star, Death Grips, Cocteau Twins, Chief Keef, Flying Lotus.
Lemon Jelly, Th' Faith Healers, Ass Ponys, The Shortwave Set, amillionsons, Osymyso, Coldcut
The Arctic Monkeys have five songs with a billion streams on Spotify (rounding up on one). Doja Cat has two I believe. “Do I Wanna Know?” is probably the biggest rock song of the 21st century, with only “Seven Nation Army” as competition. They are incredibly well known, let’s give the Coachella audience some credit
We spent 25 pages discussing Talking Heads
furthermore two of those (DIWK & IWBY) also closing on 2 billion rapidly
I am so extremely sorry for starting this discussion about Arctic Monkeys. Slightly off topic but it's depressing that "I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor" isn't even in their top 10 on Spotify. It's an iconic song, wtf. AM (2013) is so mid imo.
lmao at Arctic Monkeys. Why would Coachella book a band that just completed a massive US tour for a 2022 album that’s possibly the worst of their career. And I’m a fan of theirs. If they ever had any shot of headlining, it would’ve been right after AM in 2014, or right before AM in 2013 (had they not already played 2012).
You can swap out AM for Doja in this post, except her tour did worse
Except you couldn’t, because Doja’s last album came out a couple months ago and was pretty big.
I was shocked at how young the crowd was at the AM show in SF last year. They are bigger with gen z than you would think. An AM set at Coachella would have a bigger crowd than Doja Cat.
I wanna be yours’ steaming numbers are the perfect example of this. That song was one of the least popular on the album until like 3-4 years ago when Tik Tok blew up.