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lol Taylor and Travis aren't actually dating. the whole thing has PR stunt written alllllllll over it.
huh? lol
shes in between legs of the tour & this keeps her veryyyyy much in the news.
travis' jersey sales are up like 400% compared to before her arrival to his game, sitting in the box publicly, etc.
they're both very famous already but that doesn't mean they don't still benefit from intentional PR like this. and Taylor has def had multiple PR relationships/flings before, a la Harry Styles and prob Calvin Harris too tbh.
ETA: maybe they're talking/flirting in actuality, sure, but the whole thing of her going to the game and sitting in the most public spot cheering, then the two of them very visibly riding off in some open-to-public-eye convertible to gain headlines.... yes it is definitely PR first and foremost. her publicist confirmed they aren't actually dating, like earlier this week in a direct quote.
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shes in between legs of the tour & this keeps her veryyyyy much in the news.
travis' jersey sales are up like 400% compared to before her arrival to his game, sitting in the box publicly, etc.
they're both very famous already but that doesn't mean they don't still benefit from intentional PR like this. and Taylor has def had multiple PR relationships/flings before, a la Harry Styles and prob Calvin Harris too tbh.
i just find it hard to believe a guy who openly pursued her would agree to being rejected and instead fronted for publicity 🤷🏼♂️
shes in between legs of the tour & this keeps her veryyyyy much in the news.
travis' jersey sales are up like 400% compared to before her arrival to his game, sitting in the box publicly, etc.
they're both very famous already but that doesn't mean they don't still benefit from intentional PR like this. and Taylor has def had multiple PR relationships/flings before, a la Harry Styles and prob Calvin Harris too tbh.
ETA: maybe they're talking/flirting in actuality, sure, but the whole thing of her going to the game and sitting in the most public spot cheering, then the two of them very visibly riding off in some open-to-public-eye convertible to gain headlines.... yes it is definitely PR first and foremost. her publicist confirmed they aren't actually dating, like earlier this week in a direct quote.
Don't forget Tom Hiddleston at Martha's Vinyard, too
shes in between legs of the tour & this keeps her veryyyyy much in the news.
travis' jersey sales are up like 400% compared to before her arrival to his game, sitting in the box publicly, etc.
they're both very famous already but that doesn't mean they don't still benefit from intentional PR like this. and Taylor has def had multiple PR relationships/flings before, a la Harry Styles and prob Calvin Harris too tbh.
i just find it hard to believe a guy who openly pursued her would agree to being rejected and instead fronted for publicity 🤷🏼♂️
think about it though; she was with Joe for what, 6 years? and they kept out of the public eye mostly. she is very capable of keeping her relationships private so when she super publicly does something like this, i think it is extremely reasonable to believe it is mostly a PR stunt.
also, there have been rumors of Travis Kelce being gay/queer for years now, sooooo... I actually think he could benefit a LOT from "fronting for publicity." he wouldn't be agreeing to "being rejected" at all; if the public seems them seemingly in a dating context, that isn't him being rejected outwardly at all.
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shes in between legs of the tour & this keeps her veryyyyy much in the news.
travis' jersey sales are up like 400% compared to before her arrival to his game, sitting in the box publicly, etc.
they're both very famous already but that doesn't mean they don't still benefit from intentional PR like this. and Taylor has def had multiple PR relationships/flings before, a la Harry Styles and prob Calvin Harris too tbh.
ETA: maybe they're talking/flirting in actuality, sure, but the whole thing of her going to the game and sitting in the most public spot cheering, then the two of them very visibly riding off in some open-to-public-eye convertible to gain headlines.... yes it is definitely PR first and foremost. her publicist confirmed they aren't actually dating, like earlier this week in a direct quote.
Don't forget Tom Hiddleston at Martha's Vinyard, too
haha yes indeed.
calvin's tweet about being her beard that later got deleted still cracks me up.
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Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Sept 28, 2023 11:10:54 GMT -5
She also briefly dated F1 champ Fernando Alonso earlier this year. She can sleep with whoever she wants for whatever reason she wants, obviously, but the marketing aspect of this is transparent.
The only reason this is bugging me at all is the gendered BS that’s riding with it “girls like Taylor but don’t understand football, boys like football but don’t like pop music” blah blah blah
She also briefly dated F1 champ Fernando Alonso earlier this year. She can sleep with whoever she wants for whatever reason she wants, obviously, but the marketing aspect of this is transparent.
The only reason this is bugging me at all is the gendered BS that’s riding with it “girls like Taylor but don’t understand football, boys like football but don’t like pop music” blah blah blah
BOTH the bolded above, agreed 100%.
To the first: yeah I really didn't think my opinion that this is predominantly PR would be condemned as unreasonable/unrealistic. Just look at how it all played out; Travis was publicly calling attention to how he thinks Taylor is hot blah blah and she ignores it for a while but then she magically shows up at a game to do this extremely public display of her "support for him" including getting photographed a lot at the event. if people don't see the PR angle there, I don't know what to tell ya
For some quick background: Nearly a month ago, Kelce mentioned on his podcast that he had wanted to give Swift a friendship bracelet with his number on it during her “Eras” tour stop in his city. He was not successful in doing so and admitted he was “butthurt” about not getting to talk to her. Her team appeared to try quietly to shut down rumors about them dating.
Men, however, seemed intent on keeping the rumors going. Kelce’s brother, Jason, a center for the Philadelphia Eagles, went on a podcast and joked that the rumors were “100% true,” which resulted in media outlets running headlines “confirming” the relationship. While sports media was foaming at the mouth over the idea of Kelce and Swift being an item, she said absolutely nothing, continuing to be photographed out and about with famous women and seen at the MTV Video Music Awards gushing over every single woman in attendance.
Her “1989 (Taylor’s Version)” vault track list was being released, she was doing a pap walk with Sophie Turner, and yet it seemed nothing could bury “Travis Kelce” from the search results when you typed in her name. Finally, on Thursday, Kelce was asked directly about the rumors on “The Pat McAfee Show.” He backpedaled and deflected quickly, saying he told her, “I’ve seen you rock the stage in Arrowhead (Stadium). You might have to come see me rock the stage in Arrowhead and see which one’s a little more lit.”
It seems that Swift decided to take him up on his offer. However, her doing so — and the reaction of mammoth proportions from across media and her fandom — made the preceding media coverage all the more concerning. Because at the end of the day, whether or not Swift and Kelce are actually dating, the boys and men who consume sports media have ingested some incredibly harmful messaging about entitlement, consent and how to get the girl.
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PR isn't just about getting more famous - it is also about curating specific images or sending other influencing messages. of course she doesn't need PR to get more famous but her team absolutely still does intentional things to push forward ideas/narratives to her benefit, that's literally their job. sometimes (perhaps even OFTENtimes) with prior consent to the other parties which I imagine they got from Travis
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PR isn't just about getting more famous - it is also about curating specific images or sending other influencing messages. of course she doesn't need PR to get more famous but her team absolutely still does intentional things to push forward ideas/narratives to her benefit, that's literally their job. sometimes (perhaps even OFTENtimes) with prior consent to the other parties which I imagine they got from Travis
This is why I loathe the "Gaylor" theory - no matter what her actual sexuality, she is devoted to pushing hetero narratives
PR isn't just about getting more famous - it is also about curating specific images or sending other influencing messages. of course she doesn't need PR to get more famous but her team absolutely still does intentional things to push forward ideas/narratives to her benefit, that's literally their job. sometimes (perhaps even OFTENtimes) with prior consent to the other parties which I imagine they got from Travis
This is why I loathe the "Gaylor" theory - no matter what her actual sexuality, she is devoted to pushing hetero narratives
I definitely think she's queer (some of her lyrics very nearly confirm it to me with the amount of queer flagging) and I also am definitely feeling over how she's still pushing the hetero narrative here in 2023. girl time to let it rest; either come out or ~you need to calm down~ on the queer flagging and hints in your lyrics, aesthetics of branding, etc.
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This is why I loathe the "Gaylor" theory - no matter what her actual sexuality, she is devoted to pushing hetero narratives
I definitely think she's queer (some of her lyrics very nearly confirm it to me with the amount of queer flagging) and I also am definitely feeling over how she's still pushing the hetero narrative here in 2023. girl time to let it rest; either come out or ~you need to calm down~ on the queer flagging and hints in your lyrics, aesthetics of branding, etc.
I've said it before but her sexuality is capitalism
I definitely think she's queer (some of her lyrics very nearly confirm it to me with the amount of queer flagging) and I also am definitely feeling over how she's still pushing the hetero narrative here in 2023. girl time to let it rest; either come out or ~you need to calm down~ on the queer flagging and hints in your lyrics, aesthetics of branding, etc.
I've said it before but her sexuality is capitalism
capitalism and hot leggy blondes that look like her lmao (looking at you Dianna, Karlie, Lily)
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are you guys just saying it's a PR relationship because you want her to be gay?
I do not want her to be gay because it’s an insult to the rest of us, tbh, but I think she’s used her relationships to elevate her career mythology, for over a decade.
are you guys just saying it's a PR relationship because you want her to be gay?
No… it has nothing to do with what I “want” lol she’s some celebrity I’m never gonna meet; I don’t personally care whether she is queer or is not but I do personally *believe* she is. There’s a difference.
It took me too long to realize it tbh because there are honestly so so many hints in her lyrics but she really does put forward a convincing hetero image in many contexts, and then with some really really gay stuff sprinkled in. I can point to dozens and dozens of lyrics as well as hints in her marketing & branding that point to her being queer but I have a feeling people will just make fun of it so I’ll keep it to myself lol
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Also I think she very well could be bi/pan so no, it has nothing to do with my opinion that the Travis thing is PR. I think she’s dated some men for real before.
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are you guys just saying it's a PR relationship because you want her to be gay?
No… it has nothing to do with what I “want” lol she’s some celebrity I’m never gonna meet; I don’t personally care whether she is queer or is not but I do personally *believe* she is. There’s a difference.
It took me too long to realize it tbh because there are honestly so so many hints in her lyrics but she really does put forward a convincing hetero image in many contexts, and then with some really really gay stuff sprinkled in. I can point to dozens and dozens of lyrics as well as hints in her marketing & branding that point to her being queer but I have a feeling people will just make fun of it so I’ll keep it to myself lol
You have to do it now. So are you saying all of the men she has dated is a lie?
No… it has nothing to do with what I “want” lol she’s some celebrity I’m never gonna meet; I don’t personally care whether she is queer or is not but I do personally *believe* she is. There’s a difference.
It took me too long to realize it tbh because there are honestly so so many hints in her lyrics but she really does put forward a convincing hetero image in many contexts, and then with some really really gay stuff sprinkled in. I can point to dozens and dozens of lyrics as well as hints in her marketing & branding that point to her being queer but I have a feeling people will just make fun of it so I’ll keep it to myself lol
You have to do it now. So are you saying all of the men she has dated is a lie?
i followed up with a post saying i think some of the men she's dated were for real but mostly the younger ones, tbh - I think John Mayer was real, maybe Jake, and idk what the situation might've been with Joe but I think at the very least they were genuinely very close, maybe in a QPR (queer platonic relationship). there are so many photos of Joe as a teen/young 20s dude super cozied up with men - like fully embraced snuggling on a couch, holding hands, etc. i wish more hetero men were comfy with that sort of affection with their male friends but the reality is that it isn't very common among hetero men to do that.
i can point to plenty of lyrics, including a few live performances where she intentionally changes pronouns to she/hers with a little smile as she does it, but also there is a ton of evidence of her queerness from when she was younger. like myspace-days younger even, haha. it seems she definitely had some sort of thing with her violinist for the first couple years of being famous/on tour named Emily Poe. and then another bandmate Liz Huet after that. some of her songs from around that time reference non-gendered physical descriptions of those women whereas they don't fit the man she was supposedly/publicly dating at the time, or she changes one tiny line to make it sound like it could be a dude but the rest of the song doesn't match. same thing re: the 1989 era where i think she was dating Dianna Agron, and that album has tonssss of references that make more sense for her than any dude she was publicly linked to at that time.
tbh the reason i find it all so fascinating is 1) the lyrical analysis part is really fun for a language/words nerd like me, and 2) she was one of the first female celebs i had a crush on as a young teen as i was discovering my own queerness, and i got The Vibes from her way back then but proceeded to see the Taylor is a Man Obsessed Girl narrative pushed so much in the years after that, i wasn't that sure anymore until i...was again.
i think unclephillian could help with pointing out some of the other stuff
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oh, and then there's stuff in interviews or quotes on camera that are like.......
e.g. in her documentary she's videotaped talking to someone about plans for the You Need to Calm Down music video, and she is quoted stating "I want to show the things that make me, me. like cats...unicorns...gay pride"
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You have to do it now. So are you saying all of the men she has dated is a lie?
i followed up with a post saying i think some of the men she's dated were for real but mostly the younger ones, tbh - I think John Mayer was real, maybe Jake, and idk what the situation might've been with Joe but I think at the very least they were genuinely very close, maybe in a QPR (queer platonic relationship). there are so many photos of Joe as a teen/young 20s dude super cozied up with men - like fully embraced snuggling on a couch, holding hands, etc. i wish more hetero men were comfy with that sort of affection with their male friends but the reality is that it isn't very common among hetero men to do that.
i can point to plenty of lyrics, including a few live performances where she intentionally changes pronouns to she/hers with a little smile as she does it, but also there is a ton of evidence of her queerness from when she was younger. like myspace-days younger even, haha. it seems she definitely had some sort of thing with her violinist for the first couple years of being famous/on tour named Emily Poe. and then another bandmate Liz Huet after that. some of her songs from around that time reference non-gendered physical descriptions of those women whereas they don't fit the man she was supposedly/publicly dating at the time, or she changes one tiny line to make it sound like it could be a dude but the rest of the song doesn't match. same thing re: the 1989 era where i think she was dating Dianna Agron, and that album has tonssss of references that make more sense for her than any dude she was publicly linked to at that time.
tbh the reason i find it all so fascinating is 1) the lyrical analysis part is really fun for a language/words nerd like me, and 2) she was one of the first female celebs i had a crush on as a young teen as i was discovering my own queerness, and i got The Vibes from her way back then but proceeded to see the Taylor is a Man Obsessed Girl narrative pushed so much in the years after that, i wasn't that sure anymore until i...was again.
i think unclephillian could help with pointing out some of the other stuff
I think she’s probably bi curious or something. I think if she was dating women everyone would know because everyone knows everything about her. I didn’t notice it showing up in the lyrics until Evermore/Folklore but it might have been there all along.
i followed up with a post saying i think some of the men she's dated were for real but mostly the younger ones, tbh - I think John Mayer was real, maybe Jake, and idk what the situation might've been with Joe but I think at the very least they were genuinely very close, maybe in a QPR (queer platonic relationship). there are so many photos of Joe as a teen/young 20s dude super cozied up with men - like fully embraced snuggling on a couch, holding hands, etc. i wish more hetero men were comfy with that sort of affection with their male friends but the reality is that it isn't very common among hetero men to do that.
i can point to plenty of lyrics, including a few live performances where she intentionally changes pronouns to she/hers with a little smile as she does it, but also there is a ton of evidence of her queerness from when she was younger. like myspace-days younger even, haha. it seems she definitely had some sort of thing with her violinist for the first couple years of being famous/on tour named Emily Poe. and then another bandmate Liz Huet after that. some of her songs from around that time reference non-gendered physical descriptions of those women whereas they don't fit the man she was supposedly/publicly dating at the time, or she changes one tiny line to make it sound like it could be a dude but the rest of the song doesn't match. same thing re: the 1989 era where i think she was dating Dianna Agron, and that album has tonssss of references that make more sense for her than any dude she was publicly linked to at that time.
tbh the reason i find it all so fascinating is 1) the lyrical analysis part is really fun for a language/words nerd like me, and 2) she was one of the first female celebs i had a crush on as a young teen as i was discovering my own queerness, and i got The Vibes from her way back then but proceeded to see the Taylor is a Man Obsessed Girl narrative pushed so much in the years after that, i wasn't that sure anymore until i...was again.
i think unclephillian could help with pointing out some of the other stuff
I think she’s probably bi curious or something. I think if she was dating women everyone would know because everyone knows everything about her. I didn’t notice it showing up in the lyrics until Evermore/Folklore but it might have been there all along.
as the most famous pop star in the world, it makes sense that her PR team is likely super talented at what they do. i think she has pretty much always had an outwardly facing dude she's dating any of the times she was actually dating a female behind closed doors. sometimes the outward dude even has similarities to the female in question at the time, like how for a few years she might've been dating Lily Donaldson whilst her public partner was Joe who is also a british blond person (and that is referenced a lot in songs of that era). she also "ran away to london" with her "secret partner" at the end of 2016 which later came out as the supposed beginning timeframe of Joe/Taylor. but he was living in NYC then, whereas Lily was in London at that time.
she gets shit on for her private jet use so i dont think it is at all unreasonable she could discreetly fly a female partner around to private meet up spots. but yeah, who knows at the end of the day.
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I think she’s probably bi curious or something. I think if she was dating women everyone would know because everyone knows everything about her. I didn’t notice it showing up in the lyrics until Evermore/Folklore but it might have been there all along.
as the most famous pop star in the world, it makes sense that her PR team is likely super talented at what they do. i think she has pretty much always had an outwardly facing dude she's dating any of the times she was actually dating a female behind closed doors. sometimes the outward dude even has similarities to the female in question at the time, like how for a few years she might've been dating Lily Donaldson whilst her public partner was Joe who is also a british blond person (and that is referenced a lot in songs of that era). she also "ran away to london" with her "secret partner" at the end of 2016 which later came out as the supposed beginning timeframe of Joe/Taylor. but he was living in NYC then, whereas Lily was in London at that time.
she gets shit on for her private jet use so i dont think it is at all unreasonable she could discreetly fly a female partner around to private meet up spots. but yeah, who knows at the end of the day.
I don’t understand why she would go to those lengths to hide it? Especially now. If she’s gay there’s no reason to not be out.
I don't get why she would be in so many very public hetero relationships but also throwing hints about being gay. Like if she wants it to be a secret why would she be giving you hints
I think it's way more likely she'd queerbait if anything but it's a bit weird to speculate about someone's sexuality so much imo
I don't get why she would be in so many very public hetero relationships but also throwing hints about being gay. Like if she wants it to be a secret why would she be giving you hints
I think it's way more likely she'd queerbait if anything but it's a bit weird to speculate about someone's sexuality so much imo
^^^^^^
She profits off of queer baiting. She knows what she’s doing. She could be open. She was “apolitical” for a long time. She only wants to make money and have people buy into the narratives she builds.
Post by hairystyel on Sept 29, 2023 12:01:15 GMT -5
just read a PR theory that makes sense...Usher was announced as SB halftime performer on the same day as her showing up to the game in KC. Usher has insanely close ties to Scooter Braun. the NFL media has run away with Taylor marketing and has barely given much more air to Usher being their SB half-time performer. to add to that, Taylor reportedly turned down the half-time show.