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Yard Act maybe in play? Just announced a new album and a west coast tour starting the Thursday after BC, no Boston date currently announced
Looks like it. With Boston not on the east coast portion of the leg that includes NYC, Baltimore, and Philly, that almost seems like a lock.
Also, someone mentioned on the BC subreddit that Silversun Pickups just announced a tour that includes Portland, Burlington, and Providence but not Boston. I could see them playing mid-day and get a good crowd.
IDLES has a new album coming out in Feb. Don’t know what the tour looks like for that, but they were scheduled to play RE:SET at Suffolk Downs before it got rained out. Would love to get them at BC this time around.
IDLES has a new album coming out in Feb. Don’t know what the tour looks like for that, but they were scheduled to play RE:SET at Suffolk Downs before it got rained out. Would love to get them at BC this time around.
In Europe through March, so I would hope they come over to the US for an April/May run that includes BC.
Interesting - a 2x country day with Stapleton closing red and Childers closing green?
However, he did 2 days in Mansfield (June), 2 days in Bangor (July) and 4 days in Gilford, NH (August). Maybe he's just not hitting New England in 2024. Edit: didn't see the Gilford shows in 2024. Maybe that covers NE for 2024.
Indigo de Souza tour skips Boston/New England. Not a guarantee since she played Royale earlier this year and in 2022 but a possibility
I wouldn't even rule out someone playing Boston this fall, much less earlier this year. This sort of thing is even less of a concern when you drop down below the top two lines.
Still, the number of artists who skip Boston while playing NY/Philly/Jersey on the same run is so large that "they must be playing Boston Calling" can't be the reason for all of them.
I'm really happy if this means no Dino Jr. in 2024. They're OK; I actually saw them at The Paradise and Sinclair some years back. But if BC wants to book one legacy indie rock guitar band from that era, there are other bands I'd much rather see in that position.
So, as of now, this is what the landscape looks like:
Strong Possibility Tyler Childers Yard Act Hozier Allison Russell
Maybe (based on no Boston dates on announced tours or announced festivals that have shared acts in the past) Indigo de Souza Fleet Foxes Courtney Barnett Greta Van Fleet Mount Kimbie Chris Stapleton Silversun Pickups The Gaslight Anthem IDLES Jeff Rosenstock Sylvan Esso
Most Likely Out - performing at local venues in late 2023/2024 or international festivals MDW Chelsea Wolfe Crosses Young Fathers Mitski Cherry Glazerr Drop Nineteens Sleater-Kinney Brittany Howard Noname Squid Josh Ritter Big Thief Buck Meek Yeah Yeah Yeahs Sasami Amyl and the Sniffers Future Islands Dinosaur Jr Jane's Addiction Slaughter Beach, Dog Portugal. The Man Grouplove DJ Shadow The Kills HEALTH Arlo Parks The Hotelier Foxing Earl Sweatshirt Angel Du$t The Menzingers Dazy The 1975 Tool Puscifer A Perfect Circle Doja Cat Travis Scott Olivia Rodrigo bar italia Model/Actriz Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit Green Day Smashing Pumpkins Rancid Ty Segall Caroline Rose Bombay Bicycle Club Alice Glass Crumb Eartheater Squid Hurray for the Riff Raff
11/19: Caribou 11/22: Ranger Trucco 11/29: Armand Van Helden* 1/16: L'Impératrice 1/30: Jamie xx 2/1: DJ Seinfeld 2/7: Mild Minds* 3/1: Father John Misty* 3/19: Confidence Man 3/23: DARKSIDE 5/8: Rüfüs Du Sol
Two nights at lake Winnie later in the summer though. But Childers-Stapleton seems like a feasible top 2 for a day
I'm inclined to think that he's not playing Boston Calling, although I'd like to see him there. He's only played Boston once, and that was a two-night stand during the opening week or two of MGM Music Hall (so, technically, twice).
Every other time he's been around, he's played NH, Mansfield, or some other backwoods venue. Some country and metal acts get it in their heads that all of their fans in the northeast are 50+ miles or more away from big cities, so they play venues nowhere near large markets. That's always seemed ridiculous to me, because while you can draw some geographic distinctions with things like politics, religion, and social issues (because people tend to move away from areas which, for a variety of reasons, aren't comfortable for them), I don't believe that there's necessarily a huge amount of difference in musical tastes between people who live inside the Rt. 128 beltway and people who live two or three counties over from it.
But he seems to be one of those artists who thinks that big city folks in the northeast aren't interested in what he does, even though he'd probably sell out Fenway easily enough, so he plays way out of town.
Two nights at lake Winnie later in the summer though. But Childers-Stapleton seems like a feasible top 2 for a day
I'm inclined to think that he's not playing Boston Calling, although I'd like to see him there. He's only played Boston once, and that was a two-night stand during the opening week or two of MGM Music Hall (so, technically, twice).
I moved Stapleton to a maybe. Looking at his tour, he's in South Dakota on the 24th and Iowa on the 25th. That's a long trek to get to Boston for the 26th. Not saying that he couldn't do it, especially with five days of rest until his next show on the 31st, but he just added a third show in Gilford, so that may be it for New England.
I'm inclined to think that he's not playing Boston Calling, although I'd like to see him there. He's only played Boston once, and that was a two-night stand during the opening week or two of MGM Music Hall (so, technically, twice).
I moved Stapleton to a maybe. Looking at his tour, he's in South Dakota on the 24th and Iowa on the 25th. That's a long trek to get to Boston for the 26th. Not saying that he couldn't do it, especially with five days of rest until his next show on the 31st, but he just added a third show in Gilford, so that may be it for New England.
It's a definite no. I can't see him doing Friday in South Dakota, Saturday in Iowa, and then one lone date in the northeast before heading back home to TN for a short break and then up to Cleveland.
Really, someone should start a podcast called "What, No Boston Show?" in which artists, promoters, venues, etc. explain the touring logistics which result in Boston often being skipped by nationally touring artists who are playing the other two large cities in the northeast, and often playing every single one of the dozen largest metro areas in the U.S. except for Boston.
Plus, since Tyler Childers seems so likely to be one of the top 3, I can't see them going with a second twangy artist in the top three. If there's another folk/Americana/roots artist in the top three, it's going to be someone less full-on country than Chris Stapleton.
As much as I'd like to see Boston Calling turn into an Americana-only festival, they probably shouldn't do that unless they're planning on running two weekends with very differently-focused lineups (in which case it would make more sense to brand each as a different festival.) It doesn't do me a bit of good, since my eyesight prevents me from driving, but for anyone with wheels, the combination of Newport Folk, Levitate, Beach Road, and Green River within a few hours by car suggests that it doesn't make sense to go full-on Americana. Why compete so directly with those four New England festivals? Now, something out of the Shaky Knees playbook which blends Americana and Indie Rock could be a great formula here, but Childers and Stapleton both headlining is probably the wrong move in this market for the aforementioned reasons.
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Based upon the latest "who's touring where and when info," and what just feels like moves that the LN-owned BC would make, I'm now thinking that the top three will be Tyler Childers - Stevie Nicks - Hozier, and the second line in some order will be H.E.R. - My Morning Jacket - Sheryl Crow. I wouldn't be surprised if they flipped H.E.R. and Childers; it seems like either could close Red or headline Green on the same night.
Unless...Rage Against The Machine tours. They *really* like booking Harvard grads and former students when they can.
Based upon the latest "who's touring where and when info," and what just feels like moves that the LN-owned BC would make, I'm now thinking that the top three will be Tyler Childers - Stevie Nicks - Hozier, and the second line in some order will be H.E.R. - My Morning Jacket - Sheryl Crow. I wouldn't be surprised if they flipped H.E.R. and Childers; it seems like either could close Red or headline Green on the same night.
Unless...Rage Against The Machine tours. They *really* like booking Harvard grads and former students when they can.
Did you just watch the R&R Hall of Fame ceremony? You must have, as you've noted 2 inductees (Rage and Crow) and one of the performers (H.E.R.).
Sheryl doesn't fit the mold and only has a few shows scheduled - one in the Bahamas with Lionel Richie, one in Seattle for Chris Stapleton's All American Road Show and 2 at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta in August.
H.E.R. isn't currently touring and has spent that last couple years as Coldplay's opening act around the world. She has one full album and some EPs, she's not headliner or sub-headliner material (and you thought nobody would know Paramore?)
Hozier would be a sub at BC. He was/is a headliner at smaller festivals - Iron Blossom in Richmond in 2023 and High Water in South Carolina in April (his only US show in 2024 - he just toured the US for his latest album in 2023), and was an early evening, hour set at ACL.
While I think Stevie Nicks would be a good, but not great headliner, I don't think she would drive ticket sales for the festival.
Based upon the latest "who's touring where and when info," and what just feels like moves that the LN-owned BC would make, I'm now thinking that the top three will be Tyler Childers - Stevie Nicks - Hozier, and the second line in some order will be H.E.R. - My Morning Jacket - Sheryl Crow. I wouldn't be surprised if they flipped H.E.R. and Childers; it seems like either could close Red or headline Green on the same night.
Unless...Rage Against The Machine tours. They *really* like booking Harvard grads and former students when they can.
Did you just watch the R&R Hall of Fame ceremony? You must have, as you've noted 2 inductees (Rage and Crow) and one of the performers (H.E.R.).
Sheryl doesn't fit the mold and only has a few shows scheduled - one in the Bahamas with Lionel Richie, one in Seattle for Chris Stapleton's All American Road Show and 2 at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta in August.
H.E.R. isn't currently touring and has spent that last couple years as Coldplay's opening act around the world. She has one full album and some EPs, she's not headliner or sub-headliner material (and you thought nobody would know Paramore?)
Hozier would be a sub at BC. He was/is a headliner at smaller festivals - Iron Blossom in Richmond in 2023 and High Water in South Carolina in April (his only US show in 2024 - he just toured the US for his latest album in 2023), and was an early evening, hour set at ACL.
While I think Stevie Nicks would be a good, but not great headliner, I don't think she would drive ticket sales for the festival.
Hozier is bigger in Boston than in most markets, given the large number of Irish expats here. He sold out two nights at a 5K venue in September and a third New England show at that NH amphitheater the next night. 15-20K tickets in the region over the course of three nights sounds like a headliner to me.
I see Sheryl Crow in the Alanis role in 2024: the 90's and forward well-known female artist with a bunch of hits and critical credibility.
H.E.R. played Agganis the last time she was in Boston, which sounds like a Red stage closer.
Nicks seems like the sort of booking they'd go with to get a lot of locals to buy one day tickets.
I'm operating under the assumption that they want to book three female-fronted acts in the top six again. Given who they booked last year and the assumption that they want to lean into more of the same, how many other women could they book in the top six? Kacey Musgraves or Brandi Carlile, sure. Sza would be a great top line booking, but would they want to go full-on R&B in the top line? There are a bunch of pop artists they could book if they're open to going in that direction, but does it really feel like they'd want to do someone like Eilish, P!NK, or Perry in the top line at the present time?
The interesting thing is that this will be the first lineup booked in full after the LiveNation purchase, so if they've got a particular vision for the festival, we're two months away from learning what it is. They could very well go more pop, more Americana, more indie rock, more rap, etc. #ToBeDetermined
Did you just watch the R&R Hall of Fame ceremony? You must have, as you've noted 2 inductees (Rage and Crow) and one of the performers (H.E.R.).
Sheryl doesn't fit the mold and only has a few shows scheduled - one in the Bahamas with Lionel Richie, one in Seattle for Chris Stapleton's All American Road Show and 2 at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta in August.
H.E.R. isn't currently touring and has spent that last couple years as Coldplay's opening act around the world. She has one full album and some EPs, she's not headliner or sub-headliner material (and you thought nobody would know Paramore?)
Hozier would be a sub at BC. He was/is a headliner at smaller festivals - Iron Blossom in Richmond in 2023 and High Water in South Carolina in April (his only US show in 2024 - he just toured the US for his latest album in 2023), and was an early evening, hour set at ACL.
While I think Stevie Nicks would be a good, but not great headliner, I don't think she would drive ticket sales for the festival.
I'm operating under the assumption that they want to book three female-fronted acts in the top six again. Given who they booked last year and the assumption that they want to lean into more of the same, how many other women could they book in the top six? Kacey Musgraves or Brandi Carlile, sure. Sza would be a great top line booking, but would they want to go full-on R&B in the top line? There are a bunch of pop artists they could book if they're open to going in that direction, but does it really feel like they'd want to do someone like Eilish, Perry, P!NK, or Perry in the top line at the present time?
The interesting thing is that this will be the first lineup booked in full after the LiveNation purchase, so if they've got a particular vision for the festival, we're two months away from learning what it is. They could very well go more pop, more Americana, more indie rock, more rap, etc. #ToBeDetermined
I agree that they may want to continue to focus on gender diversity, especially at the top of the order, as last year's lineup got high marks for that.
Your last point is why trying to figure out who will be on the lineup has been more of a challenge this year. We're still not 100% sure if any of the previous Crash Line curators stuck around post-acquisition. C3 allowed Shaky Knees to keep it's alternative/indie focus, so maybe BC will remain genre-fluid (they've had rap, alternative, indie, americana, metal, electronic, jam, and pop acts as headliners/sub-headliners/blue stage closers (sub-sub-headliners?/counter-programming?) since moving to Harvard). Maybe this year they add country to the list with Childers as one of the headliners.
I'm operating under the assumption that they want to book three female-fronted acts in the top six again. Given who they booked last year and the assumption that they want to lean into more of the same, how many other women could they book in the top six? Kacey Musgraves or Brandi Carlile, sure. Sza would be a great top line booking, but would they want to go full-on R&B in the top line? There are a bunch of pop artists they could book if they're open to going in that direction, but does it really feel like they'd want to do someone like Eilish, Perry, P!NK, or Perry in the top line at the present time?
The interesting thing is that this will be the first lineup booked in full after the LiveNation purchase, so if they've got a particular vision for the festival, we're two months away from learning what it is. They could very well go more pop, more Americana, more indie rock, more rap, etc. #ToBeDetermined
I agree that they may want to continue to focus on gender diversity, especially at the top of the order, as last year's lineup got high marks for that.
Your last point is why trying to figure out who will be on the lineup has been more of a challenge this year. We're still not 100% sure if any of the previous Crash Line curators stuck around post-acquisition. C3 allowed Shaky Knees to keep it's alternative/indie focus, so maybe BC will remain genre-fluid (they've had rap, alternative, indie, americana, metal, electronic, jam, and pop acts as headliners/sub-headliners/blue stage closers (sub-sub-headliners?/counter-programming?) since moving to Harvard). Maybe this year they add country to the list with Childers as one of the headliners.
Megan Thee Stallion RHCP Tyler Childers
If they went with that top line, they'd almost have to do overlapping Blue closers who are very stylistically different than the headliner, to give people an option, because that top line doesn't seem like one where a lot of people would be excited by all three.
I agree that they may want to continue to focus on gender diversity, especially at the top of the order, as last year's lineup got high marks for that.
Your last point is why trying to figure out who will be on the lineup has been more of a challenge this year. We're still not 100% sure if any of the previous Crash Line curators stuck around post-acquisition. C3 allowed Shaky Knees to keep it's alternative/indie focus, so maybe BC will remain genre-fluid (they've had rap, alternative, indie, americana, metal, electronic, jam, and pop acts as headliners/sub-headliners/blue stage closers (sub-sub-headliners?/counter-programming?) since moving to Harvard). Maybe this year they add country to the list with Childers as one of the headliners.
Megan Thee Stallion RHCP Tyler Childers
If they went with that top line, they'd almost have to do overlapping Blue closers who are very stylistically different than the headliner, to give people an option, because that top line doesn't seem like one where a lot of people would be excited by all three.
That was just me throwing something against the wall without any real thought to it. RHCP have been on the road for almost 2 years now, so I think they may take most of 2024 off, but I think BC books a big rock act as one of the headliners. If not RHCP, Pearl Jam? Rumored to do a small central/east coast tour in April/May, so why not BC? System of a Down? The Killers? God forbid, but Imagine Dragons??? Do they throw a big enough bag to Rage to get them back?
Childers seems to be a lock given the BC sized hole on his schedule and MDW adjacent shows on the east coast. I'm assuming playing in Boston less than a year prior is not a road block.
At the end of the day, it comes down to how C3/LN wants to position Boston Calling. We're a few weeks away from Shaky Knees announcing their lineup - there's a good chance we may share a headliner or sub-headliner.
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Nov 6, 2023 9:31:38 GMT -5
Stevie Nicks literally just played Foxborough, and she played Mansfield the year before, highly doubt she makes yet another swing through Boston. Would be an incredibly lazy booking. But, it is LN, so maybe.
