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And... 2023 had the worst ending of a festival that I have attended. I blame Lana Del Ray, but the team is ultimately responsible.
If 2023 had the worst ending of any festival you attended then why are you blaming the artist who went second to last (LDR) instead of the one who closed (Billy Strings)?
I mean I know what the answer is but still
Second this confusion.
How on earth was the ending “the worst of any festival (OP) attended” AND that OP blames Lana Del Ray for that?
Did some of the crowd in the pit suck for LDR? Yes. But it wasn’t the young girls sing-screaming along who sucked. It was the middle-age men wearing captain hats who spent the day drinking and showed up and pushed in moments after she started playing who sucked. (Those men have always been at Newport; they just usually spend their day on the beer pier and not in the pit.)
LDR showed extreme reverence for the stage she was playing on. She had one of the most Newport sets of all “headliners” playing last year: playing a few unique songs that were not part of her tour, bringing out multiple special guests to play along with her to create unique and intimate moments. All while probably losing some time in her set from what she was promised or had expected because the festival chose to move Billy to the headliner spot once it was determined he’d be a late arrival at the fest that day.
So she had some dancers on stage? The festival used to book cloggers… so choreographed dancing isn’t an anomaly at Newport either.
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Post by jongilbert on Jun 30, 2024 14:05:07 GMT -5
I still don’t think someone who runs a fest with a small crew year round making 400k is that crazy. Artist opt in at a lower price and sacrifice 2 days. Why wouldn’t the guy who curated a successful fest year in and year out, all year around make good money. I struggle to find the demonization
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Jun 30, 2024 21:22:17 GMT -5
also im sorry but Jay Sweet knocking his salary down by 100k isn't going to magically improve the lineups. the fact is, if someone is going to play NFF, they have to do it at a serious discount, and an extra 100k isn't going to move the needle.
if you want an answer as to why the lineup isn't great this year, here it is. first, fests in general are down this year. it seems like the festival industry is cycling through some changes, there's a lot of oversaturation and LiveNation dominating the market (and thus booking a lot of acts on exclusive festival/tour package deals) changes things. but even outside of that, it just seems like this year is kind of soft in terms of names playing the circuit; even Coachella (which I maintain is the absolute top of the top for USA fests) had a lackluster (for them) lineup. it is what it is in some regards.
second (and more specific to NFF) is genre fatigue. when NFF strays even slightly outside of certain completely imaginary boundaries as to what "folk" should be, lots of people get weird and upset about it. so keeping the lineup to a mix of mostly americana/semi-country-bluegrassy/"folk" leads to these kinds of lineups. you're gonna get some twangy stuff, some stomp clap stuff, some "soul" stuff, etc. and there are only so many artists who can fit the bill.
anyway, y'all complain too much. go to the fest, see a couple good sets, then go get a beer and some oysters. i care about/like this music far less than most of you and yet i still manage to enjoy myself.
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Jun 30, 2024 21:23:12 GMT -5
also i caught Guster at Capitol Groove tonight and holy shit what a terribly unserious band. just the corniest thing i've ever seen, the lead singer should be taken out behind a shed like Old Yeller.
also i caught Guster at Capitol Groove tonight and holy shit what a terribly unserious band. just the corniest thing i've ever seen, the lead singer should be taken out behind a shed like Old Yeller.
also i caught Guster at Capitol Groove tonight and holy shit what a terribly unserious band. just the corniest thing i've ever seen, the lead singer should be taken out behind a shed like Old Yeller.
i have never heard their music before but i just have zero respect for them bc they played somerville porchfest this year and completely mobbed the streets around them, preventing a ton of local acts from being seen
whats the process for getting newport tix btw? ive never been somehow but given its only like an hr and a half drive i think i wanna try going next year
also i caught Guster at Capitol Groove tonight and holy shit what a terribly unserious band. just the corniest thing i've ever seen, the lead singer should be taken out behind a shed like Old Yeller.
Larry just dropping back to back truths.
What’s been the stand out capital groove sets?
My Morning Jacket was great, as expected. I honestly really liked Shakey Graves, which was surprising because I remember thinking he sucked years ago. Say She She was dope as was Ozomatli. Trampled By Turtles was good. Today was a mess because the rain canceled half the day but Trevor Hall was super enjoyable, guy seemed stoked to be there. Guster was as Guster was, Head and the Heart were fine, and we left before Dispatch because why not.
Overall the music was mostly just "fine" but it was a very well run event, awesome space for a show like this, zero lines to speak of for food/drink/bathrooms, tons of easy parking, etc. Hoping they do well enough to make it a yearly thing because it's nice to have something like this basically in my backyard.
Edited to add that I will basically always champion/cheer on/root for any festival that exists outside of the LiveNation sphere. nice to see something like this which is put on from a hyperlocal promoter.
My Morning Jacket was great, as expected. I honestly really liked Shakey Graves, which was surprising because I remember thinking he sucked years ago. Say She She was dope as was Ozomatli. Trampled By Turtles was good. Today was a mess because the rain canceled half the day but Trevor Hall was super enjoyable, guy seemed stoked to be there. Guster was as Guster was, Head and the Heart were fine, and we left before Dispatch because why not.
Overall the music was mostly just "fine" but it was a very well run event, awesome space for a show like this, zero lines to speak of for food/drink/bathrooms, tons of easy parking, etc. Hoping they do well enough to make it a yearly thing because it's nice to have something like this basically in my backyard.
Edited to add that I will basically always champion/cheer on/root for any festival that exists outside of the LiveNation sphere. nice to see something like this which is put on from a hyperlocal promoter.
I got Jacket shows the next two nights. I’m pumped. The Groove setlist looked great
Overall the music was mostly just "fine" but it was a very well run event, awesome space for a show like this, zero lines to speak of for food/drink/bathrooms, tons of easy parking, etc. Hoping they do well enough to make it a yearly thing because it's nice to have something like this basically in my backyard.
Edited to add that I will basically always champion/cheer on/root for any festival that exists outside of the LiveNation sphere. nice to see something like this which is put on from a hyperlocal promoter.
Qft
I only went on Saturday. Outside of the weather this weekend, everything went pretty well. Hope they come back again.
Post by livefromthere on Jul 1, 2024 11:39:05 GMT -5
For reference, for 2023, 402k a year puts Jay Sweet just under the 99th percentile for individual income: dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/. I’m sure there are a million behind the scene things we don’t see and that Jay Sweet works very hard, but it does blow my mind when I see non-profit leaders make so much in general.
I used to like the Blues Cafe shows but those became unbearable. Especially as I got a little older.
The Jane Pickens shows are magical to me, though. That venue is great and the shows I've seen have been well worth the money. Have really enjoyed those shows but it does take up the free time for the rest of the night. Basically running from the festival to the aftershow area/venues and then you're there til late night.
Dawes and Friends Saturday night at Jane Pickens about 10 years ago remains one of my top memories. Truly magical.
Magical. The night JJ Cale passed away. Blake Mills changed up the entire set. One of the best nights ever in newport. And there have been dozens. Misty. Jim James. Isbell before he got weird.
This will be my 12th NFF, and have only done 1 aftershow all those years
Well sadly, you have missed out on the best part of NFF. The aftershows (specifically the DT shows) were the reason we kept coming back. Nothing lasts forever. Jay Sweet is deserves a ton of praise for the last 11-12 years
Dawes and Friends Saturday night at Jane Pickens about 10 years ago remains one of my top memories. Truly magical.
Magical. The night JJ Cale passed away. Blake Mills changed up the entire set. One of the best nights ever in newport. And there have been dozens. Misty. Jim James. Isbell before he got weird.
This will be my 12th NFF, and have only done 1 aftershow all those years
Well sadly, you have missed out on the best part of NFF. The aftershows (specifically the DT shows) were the reason we kept coming back. Nothing lasts forever. Jay Sweet is deserves a ton of praise for the last 11-12 years
Can’t believe you all missed the best part of NFF: paying extra money to see Deer Tick and Dawes for the 10th time
I only did them on Sundays but those DT after shows were incredible. Big raucous shout alongs. I stood next to Brandi Carlile for a few songs before she got pulled up on stage to sing Creep. Had my arm around Patrick Hallahan singing With A Little Help From My Friends. It was the perfect way to end the weekend.
This is interesting. I remember someone on Reddit mentioning months ago about Snoop reaching out to local dispensaries for an event in July….never really saw anything after that.
But this aftershows is sponsored by a local dispensary.