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Still unclear to me but a reminder that knee jerking should be left to those who are fueled from emotion.
by knee jerking are you referring to those of us who believe or believed the hospital bombing was likely done by Israel? If that’s what you are referring to, I don’t really think that’s a fair description of the situation… as Pablo already pointed to above, there are MULTIPLE reasons to have presumed it was likely them when the news came out. Not as a knee jerk emotional reaction but due to literal facts and prior patterns.
Seems like some of y’all are just willfully forgetting/ignoring the fact that Gaza hospitals received written threats of Israeli imminent attacks upon them, like is it really so wild and “knee jerk reaction-y” for folks to then see a Gaza hospital bombed and think… yeah, it is likely coming from Israel who literally already threatened they’d do this.
No. It’s not necessarily that. It’s a caution to anyone anywhere not to be jumping to conclusions based on unvetted online information which can take a life of its own such as it did word of mouth in my prior post from the L.A. Times (e.g. actual journalists) falling for hearsay. It’s the age of misinformation and disinformation, and there are people on [all sides creating and spreading bullshit to fit their agendas. It wasn’t a call out on you.
Still unclear to me but a reminder that knee jerking should be left to those who are fueled from emotion.
by knee jerking are you referring to those of us who believe or believed the hospital bombing was likely done by Israel? If that’s what you are referring to, I don’t really think that’s a fair description of the situation… as Pablo already pointed to above, there are MULTIPLE reasons to have presumed it was likely them when the news came out. Not as a knee jerk emotional reaction but due to literal facts and prior patterns.
Seems like some of y’all are just willfully forgetting/ignoring the fact that Gaza hospitals received written threats of Israeli imminent attacks upon them, like is it really so wild and “knee jerk reaction-y” for folks to then see a Gaza hospital bombed and think… yeah, it is likely coming from Israel who literally already threatened they’d do this.
You're either using "literal" or "facts" incorrectly, or both. I've seen you post plenty of speculation, hearsay, and other "evidence" that is shaky at best. You've also misstated at different points that the hospital was destroyed, as well as that the hospital was even struck.
There's plenty of the same type of evidence to support the other side of the argument, but it seems like you are only willing to accept information that supports your own admitted bias.
Nobody posting on Inforoo, myself included, has enough information to say definitively what happened. When you make the type of declarations and misstatements that you have, based on the supporting evidence that you've given, I think it's pretty fair to describe that as a knee-jerk reaction.
by knee jerking are you referring to those of us who believe or believed the hospital bombing was likely done by Israel? If that’s what you are referring to, I don’t really think that’s a fair description of the situation… as Pablo already pointed to above, there are MULTIPLE reasons to have presumed it was likely them when the news came out. Not as a knee jerk emotional reaction but due to literal facts and prior patterns.
Seems like some of y’all are just willfully forgetting/ignoring the fact that Gaza hospitals received written threats of Israeli imminent attacks upon them, like is it really so wild and “knee jerk reaction-y” for folks to then see a Gaza hospital bombed and think… yeah, it is likely coming from Israel who literally already threatened they’d do this.
You're either using "literal" or "facts" incorrectly, or both. I've seen you post plenty of speculation, hearsay, and other "evidence" that is shaky at best. You've also misstated at different points that the hospital was destroyed, as well as that the hospital was even struck.
There's plenty of the same type of evidence to support the other side of the argument, but it seems like you are only willing to accept information that supports your own admitted bias.
Nobody posting on Inforoo, myself included, has enough information to say definitively what happened. When you make the type of declarations and misstatements that you have, based on the supporting evidence that you've given, I think it's pretty fair to describe that as a knee-jerk reaction.
lol ok Mr. Pale Horse
officials have CONFIRMED that written threats were sent to Gaza hospitals. is it possible this was an errant missile completely separate of that? sure yes it is possible, I have said that and others in here have said that too. but did it make sense as the most likely scenario whatsoever when the news came out? no, no it did not. I won't apologize for thinking that Israeli was probably to blame for a Gaza hospital getting bombed when they had, in fact, delivered threats to ummm...bomb a Gaza hospital?
Reuters reported yesterday that there has now been "51 attacks against healthcare facilities in Gaza" (direct quote). and the Israeli military had warned them to evacuate. and you're asking me to continue explaining why I thought that that same Israeli military threatening them to get out was the ones who then harmed that facility.
this thread makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
also, how is mine a "knee jerk reaction" and then the people who kept bringing up the "40 beheaded babies" that HADN'T BEEN SUBSTANTIATED -- and then was later proven to NOT ever have been a confirmed occurrence -- are just fine?
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
by knee jerking are you referring to those of us who believe or believed the hospital bombing was likely done by Israel? If that’s what you are referring to, I don’t really think that’s a fair description of the situation… as Pablo already pointed to above, there are MULTIPLE reasons to have presumed it was likely them when the news came out. Not as a knee jerk emotional reaction but due to literal facts and prior patterns.
Seems like some of y’all are just willfully forgetting/ignoring the fact that Gaza hospitals received written threats of Israeli imminent attacks upon them, like is it really so wild and “knee jerk reaction-y” for folks to then see a Gaza hospital bombed and think… yeah, it is likely coming from Israel who literally already threatened they’d do this.
No. It’s not necessarily that. It’s a caution to anyone anywhere not to be jumping to conclusions based on unvetted online information which can take a life of its own such as it did word of mouth in my prior post from the L.A. Times (e.g. actual journalists) falling for hearsay. It’s the age of misinformation and disinformation, and there are people on [all sides creating and spreading bullshit to fit their agendas. It wasn’t a call out on you.
gotcha, makes sense! i feel ya. thanks for explaining
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I'm just asking you to acknowledge that you have been also complicit in the spread of misinformation within this thread. I'm not defending the person who made the beheaded babies claim. Why does that keep getting brought up? Isn't that just another example of the "what-aboutism" that is so loathed within this discussion?
It's amazing that people seriously want that stupid goddamn mummy to run for another 4 years.
I dont think any left-of-center Inforooster would prefer Biden be the 2024 nominee due to his age, but he's the incumbent so I'm still going to vote for him anyway come 11/5/2024. Hopefully you do too since you're very much in a swing state. In a sense your POTUS vote matters more than mine in CO.
I'm pretty aware the people here feel that way.
He's going to have much more to worry about than my vote. Which he certainly doesn't have. He didn't have it before backing this atrocity. Anyone that knows me well shouldn't be shocked that I'd refuse to join a left coalition after the Liberal establishment's response to this. Sorry.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
It's amazing that people seriously want that stupid goddamn mummy to run for another 4 years.
all ears to hear who u think would win and do a better job
Ohh that was my knee-jerk reaction to his press clips from the ME. More to do with his mental fitness than having an alternative in mind that I actually like. Haven't paid much attention and not sure the Dems have many second string folks that I'm certain would do a much better job. But many could be more competent at the basics. In other words, I don't actually have a strong opinion on actually primarying him.
I've spent the last 2 presidential elections going into the ballot and voting for someone I felt meh about (Hilary then Biden) after being so impassioned about someone during the primary (Bernie). kinda used to it/numb to it now -- what else is new here in Amurrica
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Perspective from someone in the military, and then in the comments there are tons of other military folks who have seen this IN PERSON too and are validating his analysis.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Perspective from someone in the military, and then in the comments there are tons of other military folks who have seen this IN PERSON too and are validating his analysis.
Perspective from someone in the military, and then in the comments there are tons of other military folks who have seen this IN PERSON too and are validating his analysis.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
US being more savagely unhumanitarian than Russia, what a day to be alive
You know Russia is very anti-UN right. Like this has nothing to do with more or less unhumanitarian, more so what kind of countries support each other (or not).
yes i do know that they are anti-UN. i didn't mean to indicate they were doing it out of humanitarian intent; but intent is not the same as impact and in this scenario, their vote was the more humanitarian one in terms of what it tangibly supports than the US one to reject the resolution. thats all i meant.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
for me talking about this shit im coming from the perspective of someone who was invested to an unhealthy amount in the arab spring within an academic and activist dynamic on the other side of the world. The progress of that was some serious disillusionment. nonsecular activism vs. fascist gov. vs pol. islamic groups continues to be the dynamic and finding a pathway for a positive outcome from all this trauma im just not seeing....this sucks
all ears to hear who u think would win and do a better job
So, I'm thinking, me.
Hear me out. I'm not that young, but I'm certainly younger than those mother fuckers.
First thing I would do is legalize marijuana. Then I'd make the rich pay taxes out their ass. Term limits and age limits. I only want this job for 4 years. Then I'd go after big business and big Pharma. As far as Israel goes, I'd tell them good luck. No aid for Palestine and recognition as a state, no weapons.
How long do you think I'd last before someone assassinated me? I'm thinking a few months, tops.
all ears to hear who u think would win and do a better job
So, I'm thinking, me.
Hear me out. I'm not that young, but I'm certainly younger than those mother fuckers.
First thing I would do is legalize marijuana. Then I'd make the rich pay taxes out their ass. Term limits and age limits. I only want this job for 4 years. Then I'd go after big business and big Pharma. As far as Israel goes, I'd tell them good luck. No aid for Palestine and recognition as a state, no weapons.
How long do you think I'd last before someone assassinated me? I'm thinking a few months, tops.