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So we just dished out a good chunk of cash for Tix, Rv/camper and now have to do the generator thing. My parents offered to lend us their 6000+w generator. I really do not want to ruin anyone elses time nor do I want to piss off anyone, will this be a big problem in the RV area? any tips or ideas on what to do with this generator...if I am not mistaken its one of those briggs and stratton beasts.
Lastly, I saw "the box" design on the burning man site, does that really work.
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
If you are investing in a camper then also investing in a good quality generator will always be the best idea. The higher quality, and more expensive, generators will last longer and produce much cleaner power along with being quieter out of the box.
I use my generator to power some lights and an in-tent portable A/C unit so I can sleep in comfort after the sun comes up. I only use this generator about 2-3 times per year so investing in a good high quality generator does not make sense for my situation.
What I have found is replacing the stock muffler on a general contractor grade generator with a simple bolt on SuperTrapp 3s muffler and resonator works very well. This resulted in taking my cheap $200, 3000 watt rated contractor class generator from 68 dB to 60 dB.
For those of you who do not understand how the dB scale works, an 8 dB drop is a 40% reduction in sound. After installing the SuperTrapp my generator is only 20% louder than the Honda EU3000 which is rated at 58 dB and is much more expensive. Without the SuperTrapp the same generator would be twice as loud as the Honda.
You can find the SuperTrapp 3s muffler on the Internet for a total cost around $120 including the base, the diffuser disc's, and the resonator. You need all these parts to make the SuperTrapp as quiet as possible but the actual installation is so easy anyone can do it in only a few minutes.
On the Internet I have also found instructions on how to adapt a cheap car muffler to a generator. This is supposed to be a cheaper (roughly $40) and more effective option however I have never tried it and you would need to modify you exhaust even more with some basic welding involved.
I would recommend one of these modifications to anyone running a noisy generator as those trying to sleep in surrounding campsites will very much appreciate the extra effort you took to greatly reduce the noise level of your generator.
Post by SouthGA_Festival Machine on Feb 26, 2008 22:54:46 GMT -5
hjime223 said:
If you are investing in a camper then also investing in a good quality generator will always be the best idea. The higher quality, and more expensive, generators will last longer and produce much cleaner power along with being quieter out of the box.
I use my generator to power some lights and an in-tent portable A/C unit so I can sleep in comfort after the sun comes up. I only use this generator about 2-3 times per year so investing in a good high quality generator does not make sense for my situation.
What I have found is replacing the stock muffler on a general contractor grade generator with a simple bolt on SuperTrapp 3s muffler and resonator works very well. This resulted in taking my cheap $200, 3000 watt rated contractor class generator from 68 dB to 60 dB.
For those of you who do not understand how the dB scale works, an 8 dB drop is a 40% reduction in sound. After installing the SuperTrapp my generator is only 20% louder than the Honda EU3000 which is rated at 58 dB and is much more expensive. Without the SuperTrapp the same generator would be twice as loud as the Honda.
You can find the SuperTrapp 3s muffler on the Internet for a total cost around $120 including the base, the diffuser disc's, and the resonator. You need all these parts to make the SuperTrapp as quiet as possible but the actual installation is so easy anyone can do it in only a few minutes.
On the Internet I have also found instructions on how to adapt a cheap car muffler to a generator. This is supposed to be a cheaper (roughly $40) and more effective option however I have never tried it and you would need to modify you exhaust even more with some basic welding involved.
I would recommend one of these modifications to anyone running a noisy generator as those trying to sleep in surrounding campsites will very much appreciate the extra effort you took to greatly reduce the noise level of your generator.
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
not sure the camper was just purchased and its 6 hrs away in Miami. I do know that it needs a 3500w gen to power it all...I think I am an RV virgin!
Go with a EU3000 honda. You can't go wrong with that one. I ran my AC and the other equipment on the rv with it. The neighbors were in tents and did not complain a bit. The neighbor on one side said the hum from the generator blocked out the noise from the chick on the other side of us who had a sailor's mouth. At night it got chilly, so I would turn the ac to fan only, just to get rid of background noise. Good luck.
This word also has a underground meaning once you break it down. Let’s take “Bonn” for example and it actually turns into the word “Bone”. We all know gays use this word to describe the action of when they are fecal fisting their Cuban cabana boy at their sex bath house parties. Now let’s look at Roo, “Roo” is short for “Kangaroo”.So put the full true message together and you get“Bone a Kangaroo
If you are investing in a camper then also investing in a good quality generator will always be the best idea. The higher quality, and more expensive, generators will last longer and produce much cleaner power along with being quieter out of the box.
I use my generator to power some lights and an in-tent portable A/C unit so I can sleep in comfort after the sun comes up. I only use this generator about 2-3 times per year so investing in a good high quality generator does not make sense for my situation.
What I have found is replacing the stock muffler on a general contractor grade generator with a simple bolt on SuperTrapp 3s muffler and resonator works very well. This resulted in taking my cheap $200, 3000 watt rated contractor class generator from 68 dB to 60 dB.
For those of you who do not understand how the dB scale works, an 8 dB drop is a 40% reduction in sound. After installing the SuperTrapp my generator is only 20% louder than the Honda EU3000 which is rated at 58 dB and is much more expensive. Without the SuperTrapp the same generator would be twice as loud as the Honda.
You can find the SuperTrapp 3s muffler on the Internet for a total cost around $120 including the base, the diffuser disc's, and the resonator. You need all these parts to make the SuperTrapp as quiet as possible but the actual installation is so easy anyone can do it in only a few minutes.
On the Internet I have also found instructions on how to adapt a cheap car muffler to a generator. This is supposed to be a cheaper (roughly $40) and more effective option however I have never tried it and you would need to modify you exhaust even more with some basic welding involved.
I would recommend one of these modifications to anyone running a noisy generator as those trying to sleep in surrounding campsites will very much appreciate the extra effort you took to greatly reduce the noise level of your generator.
What kind of AC do you use?
I use a portable Air Conditioner similar to this one:
I purchased mine used a few years ago for $100. I have seen window units sticking out of tents also.
You will need 13,500 to 15,000 BTU of air conditioning to cool a RV/Camper/Travel trailer effectively.
The 8,000 BTU unit I use for cooling my tent is plenty powerful. For cooling a camper you are correct that you may need a more powerful unit or even serveral units based on the size of your camper.
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
I would never recommend putting a generator inside a box. Generators are passively cooled by airflow and I can not see enough air moving inside the box which would cause your generator to run hotter than it should and possibly overheat. Also I am not sure it would even make it much quieter as wood does not absorb sound very well. It may even amplify the sound like a megaphone.
Last year I used a 3500 watt generator and it worked most of the time. The problem that I ran into was every time the compressor restarted, the was a surge that was needed to get it going. I spent allot of time going outside to reset the circuit breaker.
This year I plan on taking no chances and I am bringing a 5200 watt generator.
Last year I used a 3500 watt generator and it worked most of the time. The problem that I ran into was every time the compressor restarted, the was a surge that was needed to get it going. I spent allot of time going outside to reset the circuit breaker.
This year I plan on taking no chances and I am bringing a 5200 watt generator.
How large is the air conditioning unit? A 3500 watt generator should have no problem starting a 15,000 BTU air conditioner. Is the compressor short cycling? There is a minimum time off delay so the compressor doesn't try to start when the pressure is high. You might want to get the the AC unit looked at. Another thing to check is the condenser coil for cleanliness.
Post by JustSoYouKnow on Feb 28, 2008 11:26:57 GMT -5
goofyone, I was gonna suggest putting it in a box, but i guess not anymore... thanks buuuuudy! Oh yeah, off topic, what model is the conversion van we're taking?
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
Ok, so my brother and I have been scouring trying to find a generator that is not going to break the bank. Its killing us cause our parents have a 6500 watt generator, but it is a loud beast. If we were to get one that is 72db is that quiet enought not to piss anyone off.
Second question. Does every one just bring any generator or do they actually have silent ones. If they have mufflers or silencers where can I find one.
Lastly. Where do we get the water for the camper? Then, where do we dump the dirty water.
As my Inebriated buddy walks out of the Porto, he yells out, "Dude...I love this place...bonnaroo thinks about everything...they even put beer holders next to the toilet!"
Had to break it to him that that was the urnal. Good times good times!
^^^^I don't know the answer to all your questions but I know I saw water trucks going through RV last year and I believe maybe there were trucks that will empyt also.
I think someone mentioned on here somewhere for about $50
Ok, so my brother and I have been scouring trying to find a generator that is not going to break the bank. Its killing us cause our parents have a 6500 watt generator, but it is a loud beast. If we were to get one that is 72db is that quiet enought not to piss anyone off.
Second question. Does every one just bring any generator or do they actually have silent ones. If they have mufflers or silencers where can I find one.
Lastly. Where do we get the water for the camper? Then, where do we dump the dirty water.
72db is getting up there. Some people don't care and bring whatever. I saw a few contractor type generator in VIP last year. They are loud and I'm sure the neighbors were not pleased. The quiet ones are around 56db. If they group the rv's together this year and not mix the tents in with rv's it shouldn't matter as much. They have a service that comes around and dumps wasted for 50 bucks. I bring 2 extra 15 gallon drums to fill my water tank. They have areas where you can get water near the showers in VIP. GA I'm not sure about.
I'm in the same boat. I camped last year and now I've got a pop up so I have to have a gnerator. It's about 99 bucks to rent one at the local tool rental place for a week, but I'm not sure how loud it will be. I called home depot this afternoon and they only rent hondas. They have the EU3000 for $216 a week. That sounds kinda high, but better than a couple grand for a new one I use once a year.
I hate to post twice, but I might as well ask. I have the smallest pop up available, about 10 feet closed, maybe 16 feet opened. So I'm guessing I have about a 7000 btu air conditioning in there. The only other things in there are 2 lights, and a frig (which we will not use or turn on).
I just got off the phone with a guy that said we need at least a 3500w generator, I'm looking on the web and it says 1700 start up watts and 600 average while running. If we only used the AC in the morning and of course we won't need lights or anything else, will we really need the 3000 watts? Couldn't I get away with a 2000, or a 2500? Or is it not so good to be pushing the threashold with the generators? Keep in mind I'm renting, so I'm not too worried about the gen itself, but I also don't want the thing blowing up while I'm there.
^ If your numbers are correct you should be able to get away with a 2500 watt unit just fine. You always want a bit more power than exact ratings however if AC is rated at 1700 startup then a 2500 watt unit should be fine. Light bulbs draw the wattage on the bulb (60 watt bulb = 60 watts).
To double check all you have to do is find the information plate on the AC unit and it should tell you its max amperage. Just take the Amps x 120 and that equals the wattage that the unit requires.
You may also want to check on the fridge as most of the ones I have seen on campers can run on electricity or propane.
I have a pop up too. It's a big one with a larger AC unit, but my Honda EU3000 doesn't even jump to a higher idle when the ac is running. You should be fine with 2500. I use a battery pack with mine too. That way I can have the gen off and use outside string lights. The gen charges the pack back up each time I run it again. Honda and Yamaha make the best generators.
Post by harrisonford on May 16, 2008 22:07:34 GMT -5
We have a 10,000btu unit that cools the pop-up camper just fine.
I have a briggs "contractor" generator and after a bunch of research and attempts to quiet it - tried the car muffler thing, it quiets the exhaust, but those valves are just as noisy. I gave up and found the Honda EU3000 for rent at Sunbelt Rentals in my local Lowes for $115 for the entire week, including insurance. Can't beat it. Anything that's not a generator/inverter like the Honda is going to be loud and annoying, in my opinion.
The box idea is interesting, but I didn't try it because it's going to be so hot anyway and I didn't want to blow up my camper... The other consideration is gas - the Honda should run forever compared to a contractor generator.
Post by Steel_City_X on May 16, 2008 22:35:36 GMT -5
I just picked up my Honda EU3000is generator this afternoon. I chose this because it is rated as the quietest 3K generator out there. at 1/4 load it is supposed to by 49 db. I would caution against the 72 db generator - thats like a vacuum cleaner. Look to rent a Honda, Subaru, or Yamaha. The small "IS" generators have a built in inverter to produce very clean power, at 1/4 load, they are supposed to run for 20 hours on 3.5 gallons of gas. I have looked at one for a couple years to have around should there be a power outage. Not common in my area, but you never know.
There is a Kippor which is a chinese knockoff of the Honda, but does not reduce the noise by much as compared to the Honda.