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Post by roolacksreality on Feb 12, 2007 17:30:15 GMT -5
I wonder if Les is going to be present. He was at the first Bonnaroo in 2002, and has played at least one show at all the rest except 2003. According to wikipedia.org Primus is recording a new album, so maybe they'll show. Anyone have any information about this???
*Cough* Warren Haynes *Cough* and I agree Claypool screams Bonnaroo, I never really got Primus, Oysterhead, or the millions of incarnations like Buckethead and Worrell with Calypool. But, I respect the hell out of the guy!!!!
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 12, 2007 21:43:46 GMT -5
Well, he's playing Waka. Thats enough confirmation for me that he'll be playing Bonnaroo. Simply, Les loves Roo just as much as we do. Les can be a very quirky guy. Everything from not wanting to shake hands to shying away from talking about his personal life. Dont get me wrong, this is all completely understandable. This is all the reason why I was so surprised to see him bring his kids out on stage last year. Like I said, he really love the whole Bonnaroo atmosphere. I think he even mentioned something last year about Bonnaroo being a family vacation for the past few years and how much he sincerely loves it there during his interview.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 12, 2007 23:33:20 GMT -5
1.) I actually missed Les last year (though I did see Oysterhead...and DAMN!) and hated myself for it, since I also missed Primus in '04 (and Primus in'90 in KNoxville). A week after Roo, my gf surprised me with Claypool tickets for an Atl show at the Variety Playhouse (great venue)! I love her...She's nice! The show was absolutely f*cking super godd*mn AMAZING and such + 6! I would love to see him again! I think he'll be at Roo...and so will I, so.......
2.) While I think he is very probably the best bassist that ever lived (maybe the best musician in general), I agree with many people that his albums aren't all that great. He's the kind of person that you really need to see live in order to fully understand and appreciate his magnificent abilities. I can definitely see why some people don't really get the whole Les/Primus thing but, once you see him preform in person, you simply can't ignore his near super-human talent. I can not wait to see him again!
...and might I add: BONNAROO!!!!!!! ;D
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I'm actually at a weird point in life, I've never seen Les. Limited funds/traveling has kept me from ever seeing him (in whatever capacity.) I'm definitely a fan of Primus, Oysterhead, and the Flying Frog Brigade, based on videos on the Roo site. I've also got a recording of C2B3 from the 2002 Bonnaroo and it's really thrilling music. I can't listen to it often, it's really rare that it gets played, but I'd definitely love to check them out if they were there. Really, if he's there it's win/win/win/win 'cuz I like 'em all.
Also, the "best musician" comment is a bit of a stretch, but he really does deserve respect as an innovator. It's not looked at much, but with Primus really he combined atonal jazz to hard rock and made it popular. That's a big accomplishment for sure.
Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 13, 2007 0:02:34 GMT -5
isaac said:
Also, the "best musician" comment is a bit of a stretch, but he really does deserve respect as an innovator. It's not looked at much, but with Primus really he combined atonal jazz to hard rock and made it popular. That's a big accomplishment for sure.
I've seen many musicians play, live and on video, and i've never seen anyone who makes it seem as absolutely effortless as Les does (Clapton comes close, but only close). Like I said, you definitely have to see him live before you can understand or comment. He is truly a musical genious!
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I've watched a lot of videos and listened to a lot Les' playing, and yeah it's brilliant but I don't think my view would change, especially since the best-bassist category is long since made up in my mind
Victor Wooten made an in-store appearance here to promote his book, and of course he opened and closed with his bass playing. He opened with about 20-30 minutes of solo playing, and it was one of the most engaging things I've ever seen. His playing just flows, both virtuosic and tasteful and melodic all at once. When you say effortless, that's who I think of. Definitely the best musician I've had a chance to see (from about 20 feet no less)
I understand what you're saying about Les, and I really like him and really look forward to see him, but I just don't think he'll go down as a Coltrane-level musician.
Post by Mrs. Featherbottom on Feb 13, 2007 0:23:28 GMT -5
oatmealschnappz said:
i've never seen anyone who makes it seem as absolutely effortless as Les does (Clapton comes close, but only close). Like I said, you definitely have to see him live before you can understand or comment. He is truly a musical genious!
I agree about Les. He qualifies as genius in my category, no doubt. But I'm with Isaac here. While I prefer Les, Victor Wooten is hands down the best individual musician I have ever seen.
Hopefully we can get them both at Bonnaroo again, I can go see Les (finally!) you can go see Victor (you'll be amazed) and we can meet and agree they are both mindblowing.
We'll have an Inforoo Tribunal. I'll bring the party favors!
I'm game. I'll hold you to that though.
Anyways, vaguely back to topic, I'd like them to go more into the one offs/sit in's from the past. If they'd just go further into the Claypool/Haynes collaboration and make a one-off band from that I'd be in heaven.
That's a situation I'd definitely prefer Claypool. As good as Victor is, Claypool's playing style is much different than what I'm used to hearing Haynes with. That would definitely be a "can't miss" performance.
Post by oatmealschnappz on Feb 13, 2007 0:56:59 GMT -5
isaac said:
Hopefully we can get them both at Bonnaroo again, I can go see Les (finally!) you can go see Victor (you'll be amazed) and we can meet and agree they are both mindblowing.
That sounds great! That's what it's all about! Thank you! It's so nice to have a honest, civil, cordial disagreement that doesn't end in any sort of hostility or "I know better" kind of thing! ;D I hope they both play because I love Les and (now) i'm VERY interested in Wooten.....and either sounds like a fine addition! Thanks, peace and Karma (10 minutes til I can exalt) for being helpful, cool and understanding! ;D
Post by Mrs. Featherbottom on Feb 13, 2007 11:48:00 GMT -5
I'm not even really a big fan of Victor or Bela(I know, my loss, but you can only listen to so much stuff). I will say Les conveys that intangible fun spirit about him....it's just contageous to smile and groove when Les is at the controls. What if we get some kind of Victor -> Les? Some main stage action?
Post by stuckinutero on Feb 13, 2007 12:07:33 GMT -5
HaHaHa. Every time I talk about Les I always wait for the name Wooten to come into the conversation. Usually the Les Vs Victor conversations never come to an end and never have any kind of resolution.
I usually just throw one thought into the ring. I can sit here and talk about playing style, tone, and equipment for way too long, so Ill just throw a comparison out there that usually click with people.
Who would you say is/was a better guitarist. Yngwie Malmstein or Jimi Hendrix. Sure Yngwie can play faster than Jimi could, he's also much more technically proficient. I think it was BB King who said a long time ago that Soul beats Skill every time out of the gate. Most folks find this comparison to be absurd. Hendrix was hands down the better guitarist.
So why dont these standards translate into Bass players? People who love Victor generally focus on his speed playing ability. Bottom line is that Victor wouldnt even THINK of writting half the stuff Les does, using half the instraments he does, or even the effects he does.
Victor can play faster than Les (Not by much if Les really wanted to), but thats about it. Les is more of an artist while Victor would be considered more along the lines of a studio musician if he didnt have his family to play with.
I was born in the back seat of a Yellow Cab in a hospital loading zone and with the meter still running. I emerged needing a shave and shouted 'Time Square, and step on it!
i've never seen anyone who makes it seem as absolutely effortless as Les does (Clapton comes close, but only close). Like I said, you definitely have to see him live before you can understand or comment. He is truly a musical genious!
I agree about Les. He qualifies as genius in my category, no doubt. But I'm with Isaac here. While I prefer Les, Victor Wooten is hands down the best individual musician I have ever seen.
Both are unbelievable live, and Personally I like Les more in his overall performance, but talent and shear jaw-dropping ability to destroy the bass does go to Wooten hands down. They are both DISGUSTING!
Now for the chances of Claypool being at Bonnaroo, I think the questuion should be The chances of Claypool not being at Bonnaroo? He will be there to some capacity, and hopefully with Primus as there album drops soon.
No Claypool would dissapoint greatly, but the Police will heal the emotional wound. But they WILL both be there and hopefully a little Cheese as well. I am a greedy fan
I understand what you're saying Utero. Obviously I'll take music with heart over mindless shredding. I think Dave Gilmour is a good example of one of my favorite musicians. He could shred when he wanted to, but usually kept his playing very melodic and enhanced the music. That's how I see both Les AND Victor. Like I said, with Wooten it isn't just about his virtuoso speed playing. There is also a lot of melody and soul, it's a wonderful mix. You can tell he's not just playing to play fast, he's using like he does to see what he can really do with the instrument. I get the same vibe from Les, but I don't think he's completely mastered it yet like Victor with bass or Coltrane with sax or Hendrix with guitar.
However, Les is still young to music as a whole and to the jam world. You can tell he truly has the desire to do great things, though, with his progressively projects and the way he speaks in interviews.
Post by steveternal on Feb 13, 2007 12:25:00 GMT -5
stuckinutero said:
People who love Victor generally focus on his speed playing ability. Bottom line is that Victor wouldnt even THINK of writting half the stuff Les does, using half the instraments he does, or even the effects he does.
I really don't have a preference between the two, but I think this is kind of an unfounded assertion. I honestly believe you could say the same vice versa, that Les would never write some of the complex jazz/world compositions that Victor has written under the influence of the Flecktones. And to speak of instruments completely denies astounding use of obscure instruments in unheard of combinations that Victor and the rest of the Flecktones do so commonly. Just wanted to put that out there.
Vix and Les are like men and women: separate but equal.
I understand what you're saying Utero. Obviously I'll take music with hard over shredding any day. I think Dave Gilmour is a good example of one of my favorite musicians. He could shred when he wanted to, but usually kept his playing very melodic and enhanced the music. That's how I see both Les AND Victor. Like I said, with Wooten it isn't just about his virtuoso speed playing. There is also a lot of melody and soul, it's a wonderful mix. You can tell he's not just playing to play fast, he's using like he does to see what he can really do with the instrument. I get the same vibe from Les, but I don't think he's completely mastered it yet like Victor with bass or Coltrane with sax or Hendrix with guitar.
However, Les is still young to music as a whole and to the jam world. You can tell he truly has the desire to do great things, though, with his progressively projects and the way he speaks in interviews.
I totally agree with Utero here. No doubt Victor is the man but Les just HAS IT. He not only has the desire to do great things but has DONE many great things.I think hes gone above and beyond mastering his bass along with other instruments but aslo with a style that just nobody can seem to match. Just look at all this equipment he uses
* Carl Thompson Rainbow Bass * 4 Carl Thompson custom four string bass models * maple 4 string (rarely used) * maple piccolo bass * fretless four string * Carl Thompson six string fretted bass * Fender Jazz Bass * Kramer bass * Rickenbacker 4003 Bass * Zeta electric upright bass * Kay upright bass * NS Design electric upright bass * Tune fretless six-string bass(used primarily before he got the Carl Thompson Rainbow Bass) * the Whamola bass * A Bassjo, a 4 stringed instrument which is a mix between a bass and a banjo.
Also Les isn't young to music, hes been jamming into the world of music about 20 years deep now and still going strong. He has already accomplished many unbelievable feats and still has many more in the bag. I mean think about....just in the past year......
*Released Whales and Woe *Published his novel South of the Pumphouse *Created a documentary Electric Apricot *Performed all summer at festivals *Then went on tour with Primus
I don't think it is at all a stretch to call Les the best muscian out there but maybe with his upcoming achievments in film and writing he could be the best artist period ;D
I might not go...
