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Post by sparklybecca on Feb 7, 2008 23:28:06 GMT -5
hanus35 said:
Compared to last years headliners... I think Metallica Pearl jam and Kanye are seriously a step up... I mean the police are good... but were in their prime like what the 1800's and not to hurt anyones feelings kings of leon and tool..... ewwww... I would rather see metallica then all of last years headliners.... Except the white stripes.... Seriously everyone should check the Lars interview on bonnaroo.com....
Well its good to see that Lars knows what roo is, unlike Sting who didnt seem to get it.
and i also have to say this is the first time ive seen a Lars interview and i didnt want to shoot myself cuz of how annoying he is. He seemed alot less douchy in this interview ;D
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 7, 2008 23:42:35 GMT -5
sparklybecca said:
hanus35 said:
nd i also have to say this is the first time ive seen a Lars interview and i didnt want to shoot myself cuz of how annoying he is. He seemed alot less annoying in this interview ;D
Definitely, I may be a fan of Metallica, but Lars always comes off as a big ole' douche. Pretty good interview, i doubt they're gonna be mailin it in this year, like The Police.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Feb 8, 2008 1:42:42 GMT -5
I've grown up with friends who have loved Metallica. I have owned and Justice for all and The Black album. And I have never really liked Metallica. At all. I admit They have some chops, but I just don't like their songs, or more specifically their way of becoming repetitive even when their being adventerous. And I don't like their lyrics, or the way James Hetfield sings them. I just can't take their darkness-and-death schtick seriously. I've given em multiple chances to grow on me and I just don't get it. Oh well. It's no wrose than Trey or Panic.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I just pulled out my Metallica cds for the first time in a few years. Just listening to Kill Em All brings back some great memories. I also remembered that these guys can put on a great show and really rock when they want to. I am hoping they realize what they have gotten into and bring their A game.
Post by masshysteria on Feb 8, 2008 10:20:30 GMT -5
I have to ask this one question: Do you think Les Claypool would be as good of a bass player as he is today, without the influence of Metallica? Metallica has influenced 1000's of bands throughout the years, and I promise if you interview 60-70% of the bands that have played at roo, or playing roo this year, that if you suggested Metallica as an influence, they would say yes. They pretty much created a major part of the music scene that we have now seen for over 25 years now. They are one of the most influential bands of the last 2-3 decades, even if you love it or hate it. I love it because it has pushed other bands to make music that is potentially better or worse, but Metallica did it essentialy first and you have to respect that (yes people will say Black Sabbath and some of the earlier Sweedish metal bands but Metallica introduced this form of expression to the masses and the world to the term "metal").
Even if you hate these guys, you cant deny how much of an influence they have been on music and the music community as a whole. Some people do not like the screaching guitars, and some people do not like the 20 minute noodly jams. To each their own, but I am glad I enjoy and respect all forms of music because it is all just a form of expression. Sometimes, you just need a little bit more aggresive music because you know what, all people have some aggression that need to be released. It is just like playing sports in a way. You get an adrenaline rush, you release it, and then you have your lovely endorphines kick in and you feel bliss and relaxed. I know from my experience at roo last year, that no matter who you are, you will get a bit touchy after a few days just because of the conditions. You have to release that in someway, and if that requires a few people bumping into each other, by all means do it. Just dont impose it on everyone around you, find a clear area and not force it in the middle of an established crowd, and be respectful to your fellow person. If you follow those rules you are safe.
Dammmit I want to be on that farm now. How come they have not invented a time machine yet?? BONNAROOOOOOO!!
"That's the big thing about education. People can be book smart, but not really intelligent about anything else. A lot of times they just taking in all this information and regurgitate it. It's much more important to process it and personalize it. To apply it to your world, to your life. You have to walk the walk, or you can't really report about it honestly."
yeah i want everyone to be optimistic. i was not excited about police and i lived. i wasnt sure tool was a fit and i sooooo enjoyed their show. i felt they put some effort into it and i liked how they approached the task. one thing i like about roo is how i can "taste" different bands. id never go see a hip hop band but you know what....i think ill try it this year and im so glad for those of you who like kanye - very cool! i saw the interview ith the guy from metallica and he seemed excited and optimistic about it. "
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Feb 9, 2008 20:37:14 GMT -5
masshysteria said:
I have to ask this one question: Do you think Les Claypool would be as good of a bass player as he is today, without the influence of Metallica?
Yes. Claypool is friends w/ Kirk Hammett, and he did try out for Metallica after Cliff died, but they turned him down because he was too good. I think Claypool takes much more from King Crimson, Pink Floyd, XTC and funk music than he ever will from Metallica.
masshysteria said:
Metallica has influenced 1000's of bands throughout the years, and I promise if you interview 60-70% of the bands that have played at roo, or playing roo this year, that if you suggested Metallica as an influence, they would say yes. They pretty much created a major part of the music scene that we have now seen for over 25 years now. They are one of the most influential bands of the last 2-3 decades, even if you love it or hate it. I love it because it has pushed other bands to make music that is potentially better or worse, but Metallica did it essentialy first and you have to respect that (yes people will say Black Sabbath and some of the earlier Sweedish metal bands but Metallica introduced this form of expression to the masses and the world to the term "metal").
The term "Metal" regarding hard rock music dates back to 1970 in Rolling stone magazine. as you mentioned, Sabbath (and Blue Cheer, and Cream and King Crimson) have been making metal music since the late 60s, that was by no means underground. Through the 70s metal bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden kept metal music in the public ear longbefore Metallica formed in 81. The masses had metal long before Metallica, and if anything the band took their name from the genre, not visa versa.
masshysteria said:
Even if you hate these guys, you cant deny how much of an influence they have been on music and the music community as a whole. Some people do not like the screaching guitars, and some people do not like the 20 minute noodly jams. To each their own, but I am glad I enjoy and respect all forms of music because it is all just a form of expression.
I listen to more music than anyone I know, including some metal. But Metallica always seemed particularly boring and shallow, even for metal. I respect their chops, but it takes more than playing fast to make interesting music.
masshysteria said:
Sometimes, you just need a little bit more aggresive music because you know what, all people have some aggression that need to be released. It is just like playing sports in a way. You get an adrenaline rush, you release it, and then you have your lovely endorphines kick in and you feel bliss and relaxed. I know from my experience at roo last year, that no matter who you are, you will get a bit touchy after a few days just because of the conditions. You have to release that in someway, and if that requires a few people bumping into each other, by all means do it. Just dont impose it on everyone around you, find a clear area and not force it in the middle of an established crowd, and be respectful to your fellow person. If you follow those rules you are safe.
True. but do you feel aggressive at Bonnaroo? I never have in 6 years. I'm their to listen to music, socialize with friends and pretty much feel the opposite of aggressive.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
Metallica's set is beginning to look more and more like a potentially Apocalyptic Sausagefest.
More and more.... was this ever in doubt?
If not for Eddie's pretty face, PJ would probably have a similar problem.
Honestly, when I first saw the top of the lineup, the first thing that came to mind was: total sausage fest. I definitely know both bands have female fans, but their music definitely is guy rock.
Post by mulcherry0420 on Feb 9, 2008 20:54:34 GMT -5
dudezer47 said:
ziggyandthemonkeys said:
More and more.... was this ever in doubt?
If not for Eddie's pretty face, PJ would probably have a similar problem.
Honestly, when I first saw the top of the lineup, the first thing that came to mind was: total sausage fest. I definitely know both bands have female fans, but their music definitely is guy rock.
my first REAL girlfriend got me into PJ. But she did refer to them as "Eddie and the Boys"
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 9, 2008 20:54:41 GMT -5
Yeah, PJ will still be a sausage fest, but definitely not as much as Metallica. Luckily I'm probably taking my girlfriend, so it doesn't matter. That just means less innocent women to trample while I'm moshing. Beecmyk, that made me LOL.
Post by spacewrangler on Feb 9, 2008 23:12:04 GMT -5
Hopefully not many Metallica will show up and ruin the 'roo vibe. The Metallica fans I know are pretty "red". I'm glad I can afford VIP. I wouldn't want to be in GA this year if many do show up. What's next Hank Williams Junior? (Hank III would be cool though.)
Post by frankthemute on Feb 10, 2008 0:09:28 GMT -5
I loved Metallica and had their cd's until I was booted from Napster for having that crappy song they made for Mission Impossible. I even went to a show of theirs after that and hated them even more after that. So trust that people have probably given them a chance. And to the original poster, have you been to a Metallica show b/c that is just as important as ppl saying give them a chance. Actual first hand experience is valuable in this argument. As bad as it pains me I still like listening to their old stuff but they shouldn't even be in the state of Tennessee during Roo. I am getting tired myself of all my anti-Metallica rhetoric but damn it seems like every time I read how they will bring a good vibe or something I feel COMPELLED to speak up. I hate Lars.
masshysteria said:
Sometimes, you just need a little bit more aggresive music because you know what, all people have some aggression that need to be released. It is just like playing sports in a way. You get an adrenaline rush, you release it, and then you have your lovely endorphines kick in and you feel bliss and relaxed. I know from my experience at roo last year, that no matter who you are, you will get a bit touchy after a few days just because of the conditions. You have to release that in someway, and if that requires a few people bumping into each other, by all means do it. Just dont impose it on everyone around you, find a clear area and not force it in the middle of an established crowd, and be respectful to your fellow person. If you follow those rules you are safe.
Yea I am quite the opposite of aggressive at Roo. If I wanted to be aggressive I'd go to....ding ding ding, you guessed it.....THE SUMMER SANITARIUM TOUR
Sting walked out, said "hello Tennessee", slapped a stamp on it, and called it a night.
Wow so calling the state he was in tennesee ruined the whole set?> Geez.
No it was pretty much Sting referring to Bonnaroo as any arena/ampitheatre they may have played in knowing damn well that for this reuinion tour this would be the biggest audience they would face.....oh and opening with message in a bottle.....Sting pretty much blew his load in the first 10 minutes of the set which was good because the set was the shortest headlining set ever. That ruined the whole set.
Now Metallica....I did say WTF when I saw them on the lineup and I really dislike them not only as people but their music just doent grab me. I will however give them the same chance I gave the Police last year and hope I am not disappointed. And if I am....Ill be in VIP....a very short walk back to my campsite for some R&R
Post by masshysteria on Feb 10, 2008 11:15:28 GMT -5
Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. I feel that even at roo you get some aggression (traffic, influx of hundreds of people, etc) that you have to release in some way during the shows, and if that is the way I want to do it, then so be it. I dont see myself doing that because I would much rather chill back with some corn, but if I felt inclined to and it looked like a well run mosh pit, why not.
I really dont care that Metallica is going to be there, I am just trying to be positive about it and find the good about every band that is coming to roo and what they can bring (I can think of 30 or so bands that should be there instead of Metallica, but am happy no matter what). I really just took the side of Metallica because first of all I like their early work a lot. Second of all, I have never gotten to see them live and what better place for them to redeem themselves in front of their harshest critics. Third of all, because I knew there was going to be a big anti-metallica crowd on here and just wanted to try to keep things somewhat level headed. I personally could go to a festival where speed metal is playing all the way to the softest bluegrass, but still have the same vibes that is at roo. It will happen because 95% of the crowd is there for a good time, and for good music.
The majority (not all of course) of the Tool fans that I encountered last year were surpised by how much of the music that they thought they would not enjoy too much, really enjoyed and happy at the chance to listen to different music and learn from the crowds and the good vibes that crowds were giving off. So I love roo pushing a few buttons, they do not want the same thing everyyear, and so do I (also it helps I live 30 minutes away).
"That's the big thing about education. People can be book smart, but not really intelligent about anything else. A lot of times they just taking in all this information and regurgitate it. It's much more important to process it and personalize it. To apply it to your world, to your life. You have to walk the walk, or you can't really report about it honestly."
Post by chroniclurker on Feb 10, 2008 12:31:43 GMT -5
spacewrangler said:
Hopefully not many Metallica will show up and ruin the 'roo vibe. The Metallica fans I know are pretty "red". I'm glad I can afford VIP. I wouldn't want to be in GA this year if many do show up. What's next Hank Williams Junior? (Hank III would be cool though.)
Ditto for Kanye West.
Don't worry, I've been informed that metallica fans melt in exteme heat...
"Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of Fuel. Sentimental people call it Inspiration, but what they really mean is Fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio."
Maybe I'll throw myself to the dogs, but my back's not to the wall Maybe I'll lay some bricks for the man, but the days just aren't that long So if I settle back and chill will I see far enough to feel the angel's dream? I thought it was the Story of the World!
Post by hibouxdufromage on Feb 10, 2008 13:33:21 GMT -5
This is the first time I've seen a negative reaction from all different kinds of folks for a Roo headliner. I wasn't thrilled about Dave Matthews or the String Cheese Accident, but I didn't see a huge backlash. Metallica isn't going to ruin Roo, they're just annoying lots of people. Metallica used to be my heroes, my favorite band. The witch hunt they started because one of their own paid staff leaked an unfinished song played a small part in my loss of respect for them, but the bulk of it comes from having seen them play lame shows and release boring albums. By all means, if you still like them, go see them.
who didnt seem to get it. 
