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Co-creator of show says singer had no trouble mocking Christians
NEW YORK - Isaac Hayes has quit “South Park,” where he voices Chef, saying he can no longer stomach its take on religion.
Hayes, who has played the ladies’ man/school cook in the animated Comedy Central satire since 1997, said in a statement Monday that he feels a line has been crossed.
“There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins,” the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.
“Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored,” he continued. “As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices.”
“South Park” co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, “This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he’s cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians.”
Last November, “South Park” targeted the Church of Scientology and its celebrity followers, including actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta, in a top-rated episode called “Trapped in the Closet.” In the episode, Stan, one of the show’s four mischievous fourth graders, is hailed as a reluctant savior by Scientology leaders, while a cartoon Cruise locks himself in a closet and won’t come out.
Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker “never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin.”
it was a great episode. i learn so much from south park!!
i didnt realize how odd scientology was, or how how crazy tom cruise is!! lol
i heard he wants katie to let him name the baby Hubbard!!!!
Staying on topic with scientology, I did read somehwere that Beck is into it. He doesn't really make an issue out of it, but it is something he strongly believes in.
Getting back to the topic at hand, too bad that Issac feels this way, but the world of South Park most go on.I haven't watched South Park as much as I used to, but it didn't seem that Issac had much of a role of late.
I like how Hayes could go for ten years not worried about offending anyone else's religion but when South Park satirizes Scientology, thats when it becomes a problem. What is even stranger/funnier is that it wasn't an instantaneous thing: he was on the Opie and Anthony show after the episode aired and spoke about how funny he thought the show, as well as Matt and Trey are.
"Google Asked to Delist Scientology Critics (#1)" ... blah blah blah they sue everyone that criticizes them, or in this case for making their beliefs public. its kinda funny
for personal reasons, I've done a LOT of reading and researching about various cults and religions. including scientology. I'll try not to get too into it here, but Scientology goes WAY out of it's way to squash any public criticism of scientology... and I wouldn't be surprised if Isaac Hayes was forced (by Scientology) to choose between his religion and his job. They simply do not tolerate anything that makes them look bad. Let's say hypothetically you're a comic who goofs on scientologists in your routine. They'll send letters asking you to stop, if that doesn't work, they'll sue you. not just you, they'll sue your manager, your publicist, and any clubs that hire you. then they'll hire P.I.'s that will tail you everywhere you go. if that doesn't work, they'll break into your home and not take anything, just mess things up, just to let you know that they can.
If you write a magazine article that criticizes them, they will not only sue you, but also everyone that you interviewed for your story.
if you have a relative in scientology and then speak out publicly against them, they will make it impossible to maintain a relationship with your relative. even if it's your own kid.
Scientologists are mostly nice, successful people... as long as you never criticize their religion. If you do, watch out. They are masters of subtle intimidation
Post by doobiedewey on Mar 19, 2006 12:10:32 GMT -5
The episode got pulled from comedy central last night because viacom owns comedy central and also owns paramount pictures (which is releasing mission impossible 3 this summer)... i doubt the episode will ever air again on comedy central
I too have investigated Scientology as well (in fact, it was after seeing that episode of South Park). And yes, Beck was born into and continues to practice Scientology. It was founded by L. Ron Hubbard, a popular science fiction writer who has also been quoted as saying things to the effects of "creating a religion, that's where the real money is." The religion has tons of money because in order to reach higher levels of the Church, members must pay for instruction in the "upper truths". The trick is, members are not allowed to read anything about the religion, unless instructed so. Essentially, you pay to get lied to. When you rech higher levels, you apparently gain certain powers. The level Tom Cruise reached apparently gives him the ability to move objects with his mind, and read some people's thoughts. I hope Beck has these powers, and he'll know I need him to play "Where It's At". I'm gonna miss Chef though . . .
And oh yea, for those who haven't seen the episode, it it true . . . at level III Scientologists learn how all of our souls came to earth. Apparently an intergalactic hitler-like overloard rounded up trillions of different aliens of varying race, and sent them to earth via space ships strongly resmbling a conventional airplane. Once on earth, the souls were trapped in volcanos for millions of years, until they were released and inhabited the bodies we use today.
Last Edit: Mar 19, 2006 13:09:47 GMT -5 by clutch - Back to Top
I re-read what I just posted, and I think I might have been a bit biased in what I said (although I'm not going to edit it). To be fair, Scientology has a lot of good ideas, and some of their metaphysical beliefs has strong groundings in Hinduism. What some have characterized as "delusions" of higher level Scientologists are actually signs of higher consciousness (they also happen to be several signs of LSD or mushroom use). We must accept the possiblity that Christianity could have been started by some crazy author about 2010 years ago . . . 2000 years from now Scientology might not sound that crazy.
(Part of the reason I did this was to avoid being sued by the Church.)
We must accept the possiblity that Christianity could have been started by some crazy author about 2010 years ago . . . 2000 years from now Scientology might not sound that crazy.
That's true. And there are plenty of Christian churches that mess with people who decide to leave them. I lived right next to one of those churches when I was in college. A lady I knew had been a part of that church. While she was a member, they made her leave her daguhter with them every day and she was never allowed to see what they did with ther daughter while she was at work. When she decided to leave the church, they started following her, they trashed her apartment, and they told child protective services that she was abusing her daughter. When I met her she was in a custody battle; the church wanted full custody of her little girl.
the Lisa McPherson memorial website has an interesting collection of videotaped speeches by ex-scientologists: www.lisamcpherson.org
A personal rant: On Friday I met a guy who tried to tell me that Scientologists and Christian Scientists are the same thing. They are NOT! I knew a Christian Scientist in college and I learned some stuff about it. They are two VERY different religions! When I tried to tell him that he wouldn't listen to me. I hate it when people argue stuff they know nothing about!
Clutch and Libby, you both make excellent points. My impression of Scientology is that it is now more of a business/corporation that a "religion" and they are very protective of both their "image" and their bottom line. Their ideas are not all that weird when you first get involved, when it is more of a self-help, "finding yourself" thing... but the farther you go with it, and graduate to "higher levels" the crazier it gets... and they start getting into all this aliens in in space ships whose souls trapped in volcanos stuff... but that's not really the problem I have with it, because screwball theories about history are nothing new to organized religions and cults... the problems I see with scientology include the way their members have to pay big money to advance through the different "levels", the way they reserve the most treasured secrets of the 'religion' for those who have paid out the ass to graduate to these levels, the way they aggressively target celebrities for recruitment, and the way they respond to critics and bad pub with lawsuits, boycotts and subtle threats/intimidation... (sometimes not so subtle) oh and also the way they sometimes don't allow family members to talk to each other. that's not cool.
For the record, these are my opinions only, and my opinions are pretty much worthless. (I don't want to get sued either)
and as long as we're posting research links, let me add another excellent one: www.rickross.com/
South Park . . . . . . . what can i say . . . . . . lol
Episode started out like it was a continuance of a previous episode that apparently Chef had decided to leave south park and join the Super Adventure club, and everyone was all upset and saw him off at the airport with signs and cheers. So then they 'started' the episode, and chef had returned. Everyone was happy to see him, the whole town gathered to welcome him back, and they were saying things like 'its nice that you can go out and make new friends and still be able to come home to all your old friends in south park that you care a lot about' , but he was acting different, saying really wierd things (Trey & Matt used all old sound clips from Chef to cut together Chef;s dialogue).
They ended up cutting sentences to make him sounds like he was telling the boys he wanted to make sweet love to them, instead of a woman, and the boys thought it was wierd, so they went to the Super Adventure club to try and see why Chef wanted to have sex with them. Turns out the Super Adventure Club was a bunch of old guys traveling the worlds molesting and having sex with the uncivilized chioldren of the world, (not to be confused with the Adventure club, who go rock climbing and jungle safaris's). The main old guy tried to hypnotize the boys with some corny cheap thing, so they figured chef was brainwashed.
They too him to a shrink, whose solution was to go to a strip bar, were after a little while, cured Chefs brainwashed brain after a big huge black stripper came out and worked her 'magic' on chef. We knew he was cured when he sung' I wanna Make Love to you woman, down by the fire' instead of signing about the boys.
But then, the Super Adventure Club tranquilized chef and brought him back to their 'layer'. So of course the boys went to save him fromthe Super Adventure Club, and the old guy ended up telling them the whole history of the super adventure club, and it apparently was making fun of scientology again. So the guy tried to kick the boys out and they outsmarted them and got chef and was running away with him.
The Super Adventure clubs headquarters was on the other side of a wood and rope foot bridge hanging high over a canyon, so they made it across with Chef and were trying to run away, when the Super Adventure Club that was on the other side of the bridge told him to come back. Chef hesitated for a few minutes, stan said 'Chef we love you' chef said im sorry and started walking across the bridge, kyle told him they filled your head with lies, but then the lightening hit the bridge and tore it in half and chef caught on fire and fell down the canyon hitting every boulder on the way downm landing on a sharp piece of wood sticking up from the ground impaling his body, then a mountain lion came and started ripping at him arm and the adventure guys started shooting, then a huge grizzly bear came from around the corner and started fighting the mountain loin, then went for chefs legs. The mountain lion then ripped off chefs face and arms and the bear ripped off his legs, and the boys said, Oh My God, They killed Chef, YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!
They Killed Chef
So then there was Chef's funeral, Kyle made a speech, and this was it.
"We're all here today because Chef has been such an important part of all of our lives. A lot of us dont agree with a lot of the choices chef has made in the past few days, some of us feel hurt and confused that he seemed to turn his back on us. But we cant let the events of the last week take away the memories of how much Chef made us smile. I'm gonna remember Chef as the Jolly guy who always broke into song, I'm gonna remember Chef as the guy who gave us advise to live by. So you see, we shouldnt be mad at chef for leaving us, We should be mad at the fruity little club for scrambling his brains. And in the end, i know that somewhere outthere, theres the good part of Chef, thats still alive in us all."
They they showed a scene back at the Super Adventure club, where they took Chefs mangled body, where apperently therewas a pulse, so they put him in an ICU suit, which was a Darth Vader/Chef combo. The guy asked Chef to say something, and he said, "hello there children, how would you like some salsbury steak, and for dessert, how would you children like to suck on my chocolatesalty balls. It was the voice of James Earl Jones!! So the guy said, ' Oh, you mean like a Chocolate Candy, and Chef Vador said, ' No I mean My Balls.'
Post by Hipster Doofus on Mar 23, 2006 16:34:37 GMT -5
Personally, I thought that episode sucked. I'm sure my karma will take a hit for saying that, but it wasn't very funny at all, and I'm a huge fan. Six days isn't a whole lot of time to throw something together, but that's just what it seemed like to me....thrown together.
That said, I can't wait for the rest of the new episodes!!
Personally, I can never take this religion seriously. It was founded by someone who openly stated that the way to make big bucks was to create your own religion. Period.
It doesn't really matter me, either, that parts of other religions are mixed in with Scientology. If I was creating a religion, I throw in some Hindu, too. Whatever makes 'em believe it's true.
