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id love to hang out with bill. i have some issues with his presidency but id love to take him to roo! hopefully id be able to talk him into inhaling and boy would there be some great conversation.
bush would be fun too. kinda like my polish friend dan that we could always talk into doing something stupid and hurting himself. im afraid the conversation would be lacking though.
I would like to add myself to the band wagon who wants anyone but Hillary as the democratic nominee. I am a liberal independant who supports the democrat most often but I would be hard pressed to get behind Hillary. I love John Edwards though. He is the nominee I most support at this moment, although Bill Richardson's politics also closely align with mine. Edwards/Richardson is a ticket I'd support.
Post by iridethecannibus on Jan 30, 2007 23:17:48 GMT -5
i wish howard dean wasn't the DNC, i was a hardcore dean fan in 03'/04' and even gave money to his campaign as a broke ass NYU student. I even went to a fundraiser and got to meet him!
Post by oatmealschnappz on Jan 31, 2007 2:25:17 GMT -5
taciturn said:
However I can't relate to lying about it...
I think it's perfectly cool to lie in response to a question that no one has the right to ask you. Hillary? Yes! Chelsea? Sure. Ken Star? No f*cking way! It wasn't any of our business either! It didn't effect his ability, it didn't effect the country, and it didn't effect me! What did effect the country and all of us is the taxpayer funded witch-hunt that was perpetrated as a means to remind an EXTREMELY prosperous and comfortable nation that liberals are godless, sex-crazed, immoral heathens. A pointlessly-public personal assault centered around the one and only thing these desperate right-wing vultures could get to stick. They couldn't substantiate any accusations against the "president" Bill Clinton, so they attacked the "husband", questioning his private relationship with a woman that probably had a pretty good idea what kind of man she was married-to in the first place. It makes me sick! During the '90s America was better-off than it ever had been and that made some people nervous and determined to tarnish his amazing legacy by any means necessary . Even irrelevant bullsh*t that no one ever really cared about until the conservative smear-mongers began their relentless media blitz and campaign of "moral" re-education was heralded as an unprecedented scandal! Wich it was...but simply because of the tireless efforts of the very same people who tried to seem so disgusted and outraged in the public & in the papers! The fact that so many apparently reasonable, level-headed people were able to be sucked-in is what truly disturbs me. I expected that from the far-right, but not from so many in the middle (& even the left). I challenge anyone out-there to spend $70m digging into any president's past and/or personal life and not come-up with something more shocking and scandalous than oral sex! That's my rant...
*....Oh yeah, the whole "I didn't inhale" thing IS utter bullsh*t! Even I can't argue with that. Peace.
i agree with ya. but i think most people didnt give 2 shits. it the people who voted for bush that were all worked up.
as far as the lying i agree nobody outside of his family had any right to ask those questions. and thats what i would have told anyone who asked me instead of lying. its just like when your a kid. you get into far more trouble for lying about what ya did then you would have if ya didnt lie. especially if your the president and under oath. but it was complete b.s. and we should have impeached everyone who had a part in wasting all that tax payers money.
Post by famousblueraincoat on Jan 31, 2007 16:11:00 GMT -5
For my money, I think it would be a tragedy if Barack Obama was not elected. He's the most formidable, intelligent, charismatic politician the Democratic party, or any party for that matter, has seen in years. He commands respect, yet carries himself with dignity. He's well spoken, and would make a fine representative of the United States without ever coming off false like many of the other candidates.
If it isn't Obama, my vote goes for Al Gore, and if not Gore, McCain or Biden.
I would never vote for Hillary Clinton. I just don't trust her. Loved Bill, would vote for him again if I could. Hillary though. It just seems too much about her and not enough about the welfare of the country.
Post by oatmealschnappz on Jan 31, 2007 16:17:08 GMT -5
attornaroo said:
I would never vote for Hillary Clinton. I just don't trust her.
With all due respect... If you trust ANY politician, especially one trying to obtain the closest thing to absolute-power that we as a nation have, then you are hoplessly optimistic and more than a little naive.
Post by famousblueraincoat on Jan 31, 2007 16:33:53 GMT -5
Agreed wholeheartedly. But I'd like to think that, in the big picture, there are politicians out there who, in the course of serving their own individual wills to power and senses of hegemonic entitlement, are capable of actually "serving" the interests of Americans.
and boy would there be some great conversation.
But hell they would do a great job! 