Presidential Nominees

Want - Either Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton

Think - Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama

I dont carea bout the republicans, But it will either be john mccain or rudy juliani

Rep odds:
Colin Powell 30-1
Condoleeza Rice 12-1
George Allen 15-1
George Pataki 10-1
Jeb Bush 40-1
John McCain 6-5
Mike Hucklebee 15-1
Mitt Romney 6-1
Newt Gingrich 7-2
Rudy Giuliani 10-11
Sam Brownback 8-1

i would love to see Al Gore run

well im sorry to say i thin the republicans will win. the only way to for the dems to lose is to run a woman or a black man. especially with a name like barak hussein obama. and it looks like thats what will happen. obviously i think they would do a better job but the fanatics that elect bush arent going to vote for a woman or a black man. im thinking it will be mccain and powell as vp( i know hes black too, but he can appeal to republicans and a portion of the dems. obama has no rep. support). possibly guiliani. but really hes a joke and brings too much baggage. hopefully it will be edwards with hillary or obama as vp. thats the onl hope i see to beat the fanatics that vote for bush.


i vote lou dobbs for president. he makes the most sense.

^^that made me laugh!

*smite*

That's how I roll

i do agree. it does seem that the dems could run dennis rodman and win because of the republicans colossal screw up with bush. but those fanatics will get out and vote. they wont want a woman running a war. and i dont know. its probably unfair and offensive but i beleive most of the bible belt fanatic voters are also racists. at least racist enough not to vote for a black man. but i think edwards as the front man might be a perfect oppurtunity for some barriers to be broken with hillary or obama as vp. and if all goes well that could definitely be turned into a succesful presidential run for either of them. but i dont see hillary settling for vp. but thaths fine. i almost think that edwards obama would stand a better chance. hopefully jeb bush will come out of nowhere and get the nomination. oj could beat another bush.

McCain is going to struggle mightily with his Iraq stance. If last weekend was any idication, this escalation is a horrific idea. He has been asking for this for a long time (he was probably right about 'more troops' in the first 2-3 years of this tragic war, but now it is just bad strategically & politically) and to defend it now could end up equaling an elimination from the race.

Rudy Giuliani probably wont get the nomination, or possibly even make a serious run. His withdrawl from the 2000 NY Sneate race indicates a lack of willingness to really battle it out in one of these big nasty elections at this point in his life.

What I see happening on the GOP side are those two frontrunners falling out at some point either due to Iraq (McCain) or lack of desire (Rudy). Mitt Romney looks the part of President but has shown alot of inconsistencies on major issues that could haunt him during the primary season...he very well could run the risk of repeating the mistakes of his father that spoiled his chances of ever beig President (He said he had been 'brainwashed' on the Vietnam war in 1968). My feeling is that the Republican nomination will come down to either Mike Huckabee or Tommy Thompson...with a possibility of Chuck Hagel if the Iraq situation keeps getting worse.

On the Dem side - Hillary Clinton is the clear frontrunner but will really have to distance herself from hr original vote of 'yes' for going into Iraq. I still dont get how people can talk about Obama's "lack of experience"...his 8 years in the Illinois state legislature & what will by then be 4 years in the Senate (and consistent opposition to Iraq) is far superior to Hillary's will-be 8 years in the Senate (where she voted for and stood with Bush on the Iraq war up until only recently).

The one Democratic who is by far the best equipped for the job is Gov Bill Richardson of Nevada. He has the executive experience, a great speaker, charisma, has Cabinet experience, has been an Ambassador, etc.

You're just still mad about FF...

Yeah, Hillary for president. Let's let 2 families, the Bushes and Clintons, own the executive branch for almost 30 years. Great idea. Bring on the dynasties, democracy was getting boring.

Personally, I think there's truth to the "you only get one chance" theory, because after that (right or wrong) you are labeled a loser. Edwards hooked-up with the wrong guy last time and shot himself in the foot. Hillary IS a polarizing character, but what was "W"...or Bill?
People eat that stuff-up and for good reason; these canditates are not only stirring things up, but they have so much to prove over-all that they face an incredible up-hill climb(some fail horribly). Hillary reminds people of the good old days. I mean, can you imagine a better period in American history than the '90s? I can't. And no matter what people say in bullsh*t polls, we never felt more comfortable/safe/superior than we did then. Not only does Hillary have first-hand experience in how to do things right, but she has the support/advice of one of the best presidents in our short history. The Clintons (as a whole) are a money-raising-machine and that is exactly what we ALL need to give us a fair chance against a party primarily funded by the biggest/most powerful military, oil & pharmaceutical interests in U.S. history. Yeah, there are other canditates that I would rather see win, but the simple fact is this....ONLY ONE CAN WIN! Chose wisely or don't chose at all. It's too important this time. Think about it, PLEASE!

I've been on the Edwards/Obama train for a while. Sometimes Edwards seems a little too slick for his own good, but there are worse things.....like being a complete idiot.

I don't think Edwards losing the last election will hurt. Nobody put that loss on him, and if anything, the exposure he got helps because that would be a very inexperienced ticket.

Plus he's from the south. Most recent democrats that won were from the south.

i posted tis in another thread but it applies here too

i like to compare our election system to going to a restaurant that only has 2 dishes. a bowl of sh.it and a bowl of puke. im gonna say no thanks and walk out disgusted. thats how i feel about voting.

the 2 party system needs to go. but then the people really running shit wont get to put thier handpicked lackees up there. they are all to horible to support. imo. when someone runs on drug law reform and election reform then i will be more likley to give a shit. or someone who would rather drop a billion dollars worth of food a month instead of a billion worth of bombs.

well he is for drug courts and rehab over incarceration. whihc is something i can get behind(only because its better then the current situation. still wrong though imo). but he is not for legalization and is for harsher mandatory sentencing for dealers. and hes for preferential treatment of minoriteis when it comes to governmetn programs. hes also a big death penalty guy. but i think hes one of the best options. right to choose, stem cell, gay marriage. education, healthcare (minus the illegals though) he seems to be one of the better options out there. but still leaves alot to be desired. i whole heartedly disagree with him on immigration and mandatory human services for illiegals.