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Post by mindexpansi0n on May 1, 2007 12:25:36 GMT -5
Ok... so to make a long story short - I went to school for Psychology... got a B.S. - was in graduate school for mental health counseling for almost two years... got burned out and decided not to return for this spring semester. Moved and got a job instead (love the town, feel underpaid and overworked at the job). The thing is the job isn't something I want to be doing nor is it an appealing place to work (co-workers are flakey, supervisor literally chuckles as she brings me huge stacks of files and sets them on my desk, people are angry and depressed where I work, they company requires overtime be requested in "advance" so they don't have to pay you for it, etc.). It is an all around sketchy job that is doing nothing but pay the bills right now... i don't see it as any kind of stepping stone to my future, nor are there any viable advancement opportunities involved.
So... I applied for law school this spring and am waiting to hear a decision on the matter. Likely I will get on their "wait list" and spend my summer praying that I get in at the last minute and be saved from this hellish job and the bleak career opportunities that await me with a BS in Psychology and 3/4's of a graduate degree in a field I don't want to work in.
My question to you people is... wtf do I do? I'm considering putting my resignation in two weeks prior to leaving for Bonnaroo... or possibly coming back to this job and seeing if I can "tough it out" until I hear from law school. This job sucks, but I don't wanna feel like a job hopper when it is full-time steady work that is paying for my Bonnaroo trip and could allow me to save a bit of cash if I can grin and bear it.
Post by oleander124 on May 1, 2007 12:45:01 GMT -5
I don't want to tell you what to do, but I'm waiting my job search out until after Bonnaroo. I've been looking since last August, but haven't found one. I don't like my current job, either. We are given productivity goals (ha...goals my a$$) on how many ads we do every day, and we are also penalized for mistakes. For every hundred ads we do, we are only allowed to make 3 total mistakes (called "reworks"... and I'm talking about a missed comma being a mistake/rework, too.) If we make more than the "alloted" mistakes for two weeks in a row, we are given a "talking-to" and put on "probation" until we pull our numbers up. If we don't pull them up, we're fired. There's also MANDATORY overtime. When I first started, we had to work 10 hours OT each week. That was hell on earth. Most people are unhappy where I work...but we all support each other because we know everyone hates it just as much as the other person.
I'm a designer, not a child, or a number. I hate having those f*cking numbers hanging over my head every week, but I choose to be here for now until I can find something else.
Post by mindexpansi0n on May 1, 2007 12:50:38 GMT -5
Well at least we can wallow in the same pit of commercial despair... I wonder if that golden age of being treated decently by an employer ever really existed for people like our parents. I definitely feel the stuff about being treated like a child... and the employer's main motivational tool being job threats, annual leave threats, etc. We work with federally funded employment programs and stuff and have had our annual leave continually threatened here lately - I'm almost hoping my supervisor tells me that i can't take my annual leave for Bonnaroo... just so I can start singing that "Take this job and shove it... I aint workin here no more..." song from the Office Space soundtrack.
Totally. You can't let your job make your whole life unhappy. I don't think there is anything wrong with being a job-hopper. That's a hold-over from our grandparents generation when you had to stay at a job to move up the ladder. That just doesn't hold true anymore. You said yourself that there are no opportunities for advancement, so why hang around?
You can try to find a job that will pay for your school, or at least something that will keep you from going insane.
Have you considered nursing? Many hospitals will pay your way if you work for them while going to school. With your background in psychology you could be a psych nurse... There are also accelerated nursing programs for people who already have a bachelor's.
Post by oleander124 on May 1, 2007 14:03:24 GMT -5
mindexpansi0n said:
I'm almost hoping my supervisor tells me that i can't take my annual leave for Bonnaroo... just so I can start singing that "Take this job and shove it... I aint workin here no more..." song from the Office Space soundtrack.
Man...I think of all the wonderful scenes in that movie and how I'd like to re-enact most of them here. I mainly have fantasies about destroying our printers Office Space-style.
^Poop you definately get karma for that, I just started watching office space too..
My job aint anything special.. I'm very much underpaid but I work for a non-profit and I can see how my work directly affects people that our program helps, so I've stuck with it so far.
Edit: uhh.. when I can give it!
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If the job pays barely enough to live on and you hate it. Move on. If you love your job stick with it no matter what it pays (as long as you can live.)
If you're gonna work a job you hate. Have a plan. Save money. My wife and I worked 10 years at jobs we hated just so we would never have to do that again. We lived cheap (no cable, no cellphones, used cars, used furniture) and saved every penny. We still did fun things but cheap fun things (concerts, camping, canoeing)
After 10 years, we both quit (happiest day of our lives), and I retired and started volunteering. She took a job paying about 60% of her previous pay, but she loves it. Six years later she makes more that before and we still live cheap.(I cook from scratch, coupon shop, cut firewood and still no cable or cell phone but by choice.) But we can take nice vacation if we want.
We're in our 40's own a house with 15 acres (paid for), and are pretty set for retirement. And we started with nothing, no furniture, no cars, nothing. It can be done.
The only reason to work a job you hate is so that you will NEVER have to do it again.
BTW, nursing or other health care careers are the way to go if you can stomach it. Great pay and benefits and always in demand.
After working in the legal field for 16 years, I recommend that you contact some law firms about working as a "runner", file clerk, or anything they would offer you. You get some experience in the legal field and it gives you an opportunity to make sure you really really wanna go to law school. I wanted to go to law school but after 16 years - I was burned out and had no desire to become a lawyer - hopefully I will go back into the legal field soon (within the VA system) but for now - I am happy - no deadlines, no stress, no pressure.
sorry to go off topic, but what exactly about psychology made you burn out? i just finished my first year of college (studying psych) and i hope to eventually get a M.D., but i'm so anxious about it. no offense, but i'm terrified of being in your position, spending however many years studying psych and then deciding it's not for me. so far i like most of it, but i haven't been able to fully commit myself to it mentally, if that makes sense. so please, if you could share some wisdom, i would greatly appreciate it.
Post by mindexpansi0n on May 1, 2007 16:34:39 GMT -5
Certainly, and I share your terror
I regret getting a BS in Psych because it is like an all or nothing field... once you get your feet wet you better go all the way because otherwise you are not going to be in control of your career - you are going to have to take something that comes along and hope it works out... Psychology (outside of a Doctoral degree) is low-paying and generally resarch based... studies, experimental design, etc. Counseling is sort of an offshoot of Psychiatry (remember a Psychiatrist can prescribe meds, a Psychologist can't) - a masters level Counselor essentially performs as a Psychologist would but with more of a lean towards Social Work... and of course they are paid less then either a Psychiatrist or Psychologist. Basically, if you are really serious about taking that B.S. in Psych and doing something in that field, making money, and controlling your career... you will need to put in another 2-4 years of schooling after your B.S. - either in med school (psychiatrist), a doctoral psychology program (psychologist), or an M.S. in Counseling (professional counselor).
I chose to pursue an M.S. because it is cheaper, less time consuming, and I assumed it was going to be useful... well, as it turns out, your choices as a new counselor are going to run through very limited avenues... including drug and alchohol counseling (ha, no thx) or domestic violence/abuse (eh, again, no thx). If I had it to do over again? I'd either get a B.S. in a computer field or be working on my doctoral degree in Psychology.
Life doesn't seem like it is about money until you are out of college... if that makes sense.
likewhoa said:
sorry to go off topic, but what exactly about psychology made you burn out? i just finished my first year of college (studying psych) and i hope to eventually get a M.D., but i'm so anxious about it. no offense, but i'm terrified of being in your position, spending however many years studying psych and then deciding it's not for me. so far i like most of it, but i haven't been able to fully commit myself to it mentally, if that makes sense. so please, if you could share some wisdom, i would greatly appreciate it.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
im one of those people that are stuck in a comfortable rut. im good at what i do, i make good money doing it, but i dread it every single day. i would kill for a 9-5 that pays as well as bartending, but i dropped out of college. dumb move. long story short: i still have no idea what i WANT to do, so i continue doing nothing at all
good luck sticking it out until bonnaroo. it could be worse. i was in a bad accident a few years ago and broke a couple important bones so i tried telemarketing. i cried everyday on my way to work.
I reminded my bf of this, who works at a bank, but it didn't fly. Some people just have a genuine desire to love their work, and it is painful for him to dread it so.
Just give me something i can live with, and I'm happy.
We treat mishaps like sinking ships and I know that I don't want to be out to drift Well I can see it in your eyes like I taste your lips and They both tell me that we're better than this
Yeah, 40 days before Bonnaroo and the company I've been at forever is restructuring. 41 people going bye bye. Don't know if I'm one of those, but how nice to have this crap on my mind when all I want to do is enjoy myself at the festival. I should have stayed a cop. They never restructure and there will always be crime. I guess I could have worked for a septic company too, because there will always be sh*t !!!! ;D Well, easy come easy go, it will not spoil my time