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Testimony before congress today by Monica Goodling seems to confirm a BBC story about the caging of black voters, many of them soldiers in Iraq, to remove them from the voting rolls in 2004.
It seems "they sent address verification letters to primarily African-American voters, many of them soldiers serving in Iraq. Because they were in Iraq and planning to vote by absentee ballot, they were not home to reply to the verification letters. Then, when they sent in their absentee ballots, their votes were challenged and disqualified." The soldiers therefore never knew their votes were disqualified. Soldiers were specially targetted because it could be almost guaranteed they would not return the verification letter.
It is estimated that in 2000 and 2004 about 1.5 million voters, primarily blacks and hispanics, were removed by this method.
Caging is prohibited by the Voter's rights Act of 1965 plus the RNC has a 1987 injunction against using this specific method to target minorities.
I saw the testimony of Goodling today, and it was awful. I mean Alberto Gonzalez and her couldn't of pussy-footed their way around questions any harder. It sucks, but when you get caught farking things up, you better own up to the consequences.
On this story on hand, it was only a matter of time that voting fraud was going to be verified on the 2000 or 2004 elections, whether it was Liberal or Conservative. Unfortunately for the president it was conservatives commiting fraud.
At this point I think I have "disgust fatigue" when it comes to the hypocrisy and shameless corruption exemplified by the current administration. Just when you think they can't go any lower......
Post by ChiefPemperToadWigginsky on May 23, 2007 19:03:21 GMT -5
I wish more and more people that are within the administration would come out and speak their hearts. You know there has to be many people who are afraid of losing their jobs so they don't blow the whistle. People need to stand up for their beleifs so we can evolve into the next step of our eventual oneness.
Post by rastaradam on May 23, 2007 23:57:19 GMT -5
Why would they respect the votes of the people serving our country because they certainly don't respect their lives?
Makes you wonder what we'll find out once this administration is no longer in power, it's a ginormous iceberg
Between that and the redistribution of wealth from our country back to individuals/corporations courtesy of privatization, it's going to take a long time to recover.
Sure is a different country than I grew up believing it is...does anyone else feel jaded?
Many states do not register voters by party. TN is that way. Blacks voted 90% Dem in 2000 and 90% plus Dem in 2004. (depending on which polls you read.)
Less than 90% of registered Dems voted for Kerry in 2004.
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Post by spookymonster on May 24, 2007 8:19:59 GMT -5
Interesting that Hispanics were also targetted... they're typically pro-Republican. On the Puerto Rican side of my family, I have several cousins in the Air Force, and they're vehemently pro-Bush.
I just don't understand, with all this blatant corruption, why there isn't more of an outcry for impeachment. We have a Democratic congress and Senate, yet no one talks about it, cause the Dems want to retain their power and secure the presidency. I don't think they'd have the votes to do it, but it would send a really strong message.
Post by murphyshuman on May 24, 2007 12:43:42 GMT -5
I have a theory on that one...the general public are worried about paying the mortgage and keeping up with the neighbors, no time left for actual issues...then we have the whole us better than them scenario....why else would anyone believe the word of a confirmed liar such as our illustrious commander in chief. Our government has become so adept at giving the public what they want to hear and the public has become so fearful, that as long as someone tells them everything will be okay they believe it. FOX news (a term used very lightly) has in fact prevailed.
Post by fordgoose15 on May 25, 2007 13:53:30 GMT -5
sascwatch said:
why would they target race and not party affiliation? Is there no black and hispanic republicans?
My first thoughts were that blacks vote primarily Dem - which could have had a major impact on the '00 election that Gore so narrowly lost. This sure would be a different "world" if we had had a Dem president for the last 8 years instead of a Rep.
That happened to me in 04. The letter went to my mom's house since I'm registered in PA (but was stationed in Cali at the time and deployed overseas) and not my address on base, so she let me know about it and I took care of it.
The fact that this is being discussed is rare. Or the fact you watched this on TV is rare. Most americans will watch E! to see the Kfed story but will not care what their leaders are doing. Karma for being aware. I guess roo's are smarter then the average public and best of all no Kfed thread.
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Post by chicagorooer on Jun 1, 2007 15:17:30 GMT -5
fordgoose15 said:
sascwatch said:
why would they target race and not party affiliation? Is there no black and hispanic republicans?
My first thoughts were that blacks vote primarily Dem - which could have had a major impact on the '00 election that Gore so narrowly lost. This sure would be a different "world" if we had had a Dem president for the last 8 years instead of a Rep.
So true we would all be speaking Arab if that would have happened