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I have a little more faith in BC than that. Some, if not most, of those names will be there but they have done a fantastic job in the past making interesting lineups that are usually very different from those of the bigger name fests. But then again that could just be me being way to optimistic. Maybe part of them growing is them becoming like every other festival...
No I agree, I think pretty much every year they've surprised me with at least one or two interesting names that I'm not expecting. The only artists I feel relatively confident in thinking will be there are Bon Iver, Chance, and Sigur Ros.
Yeah I'm with you there! And that's definitely a good start. I just hope that they use all the money from making it once a year for good rather than evil. Also hangout may have the beach but we've got a river you could definitely contract some diseases in
Also, I hope BC realize that, if Weezer is in fact a sole headliner, that their show at Xfintiy Center sold out over the summer only because it was a co-headline with Panic at The Disco.
BON IVER | CHANCE the RAPPER | MUMFORD and SONS | WEEZER the XX | Sigur Ros | the 1975 | Dillion Francis (or some other crappy DJ/edm) | Two Door Cinema Club Glass Animals | Fitz and the Tantrums | Grouplove Young The Giant | Cold War Kids | Alessia Cara Nathaniel Rateliff and The Night Sweats Emeli Sande | D.R.A.M | Lil Yachty Bishop Briggs Saint Motel | Bob Moses | Aurora | Joseph Coin | 888 | (boston band) | (boston band) | (boston band)
This is if they pull a Lorde/Gambino like in 2015 with Bon Iver/Chance. Got Chance do a full set, then the other stage got Bon Iver closing the same night, leaving another headliner night open (mumford or something). I just have no clue how many bands they are gonna have and not sure how close this would be if at all.
I'm guessing around 30 acts, not including comedy and film. The big question is whether they're do an unopposed headliner, or have someone appealing to 5K - 7K off to the side stage while a bigger name is on one of the twin main stages, as has been speculated above.
The top line seems very realistic for the semi-supersized new digs.
I'd also expect a little more punk and Americana, although not much more, than this lineup offers. I suspect that the crunch, jangle, and twang is likely to be booked on that side stage when the more pop and electronic acts are on one of the main stages (or visa versa, in the case of Mumford or someone like Ryan Adams or Wilco.)
Any reason why Mumford and Weezer are dominating your mocks? I don't have any reason to think otherwise I am just really hoping that they are not.
Also I know this would be a looooooooooooong shot but if Radiohead does a spring tour could it be possible at all that they make it on the lineup?
That 'Boston Powers' account, who doesn't communicate and only posts in this thread, essentially (the same person who posted 'Bon Iver & Chance The Rapper' a bit ago), then posted a pic of weezer without any context. Given they are doing Hangout and Forecastle it's reasonable to say they could do this, tho personally i won't want to see them- i just wanna keep the mock as realistic as possible. And for Mumford, that's granted that one headline slot is divided for Bon and Chance like it was in 2014 with Lorde and Childish Gambino, if not then Bon/Chance/Weezer would be it. Mumford is doing Hangout the weekend before and it's their only US date thus far, but could very well be switched out for Killers or something in this case.
As for Radiohead i wanna say I highly doubt it, even with the bigger space I feel like BC won't have the money to afford them. Thinking they would do a few nights somewhere- Xfintiy Center or something. I wouldn't expect any bigger bands than Mumford if that at this year's granted it'll be their first year at Harvard and want to expand but probably not *that far* beyond what they usually do in terms of acts, the size of the acts and amount of money they spend on them.
The Killers Chance the Rapper The xx Sigur Ros Ryan Adams Banks Big Gigantic Young the Giant X Ambassadors A$AP Ferg Local Natives Nathaniel Rateliff & the Night Sweats Charli XCX Rufus Du Sol Capital Cities Hamilton Leithauser + Rostam Elbow Margo Price Mutemath Kaytranada Warpaint Metro Boomin Bob Moses Strand of Oaks Modern Baseball D.R.A.M. Bishop Briggs Francis & the Lights Sofi Tukker Joseph Mondo Cozmo Tall Heights
Not my ideal lineup, but this is what i am predicting...
The Killers Chance the Rapper The xx Sigur Ros Ryan Adams Banks Big Gigantic Young the Giant X Ambassadors A$AP Ferg Local Natives Nathaniel Rateliff & the Night Sweats Charli XCX Rufus Du Sol Capital Cities Hamilton Leithauser + Rostam Elbow Margo Price Mutemath Kaytranada Warpaint Metro Boomin Bob Moses Strand of Oaks Modern Baseball D.R.A.M. Bishop Briggs Francis & the Lights Sofi Tukker Joseph Mondo Cozmo Tall Heights
Not my ideal lineup, but this is what i am predicting...
This just seems a little too middle of the road. They tend to always have some more things out of left field. Also, not enough women.
Apparently, Primavera Sound in Spain starts just a couple of days after Boston Calling. It might make sense for some acts to do Boston Calling and then pond hop over to Primavera.
I've seen a few mock lineups include Boston Calling alumni. I could easily see them bring back a couple of acts, but I can't imagine that they'd do more than a couple, when they're trying to sell the idea that this is a bigger and better festival than they've had in the past.
Kendrick Lamar and Twenty-One Pilots are the only alumni who've turned into huge deals since they appeared at BC. They'd be exceptions, but if they booked Local Natives, The 1975, and Warpaint in 2017, it would seem a little "been there, done that." When you're booking as few acts as Boston Calling does, you can't repeat acts like Lollapalooza or Bonnaroo can. Excluding KL or 21P, who would be huge feathers in their cap, I wouldn't expect more than two alumni in the lineup. (Arguably, Childish Gambino is a much bigger deal than he was a couple of years ago, but for reasons that have nothing to do with his music. Atlanta received an incredible critical response and Glover's as hot a TV showrunner as there is right now. Having booked Glover, The Roots, and Tenacious D, they've shown a propensity for booking acts with TV/movie crossover stars. It'll happen again.)
The only thing I'm certain of is that they'll try to book their most stylistically diverse event to date, in order to give themselves the best chance of selling the extra 10 - 15 thousand tickets which will be available this time. They'll want to win back the rock/punk/roots/Americana fans who felt slighted last edition, while keeping the new ticket buyers who liked the emphasis upon dance/pop/EDM.
I think this is going to manifest itself most strongly in the scheduling of the two stages. More than most festivals, since they'll have only two concurrent stages, they're going to try to program the most polar opposite acts imaginable at the same time, especially for acts that a lot of the crowd isn't going to like. Country on one stage, rap on another stage at the same time. EDM or pop on one stage, punk or metal on the other. This is going to happen all weekend long.
Given the much higher ticket prices -- once the superfan and early bird discounts are gone -- I'm wondering if they're going to get one or two headliners that's much bigger or hotter than we're expecting. Not Coachella or Gillette big, but TD Garden or Fenway big. The last thing they want to do is create the perception that it's just the same third-tier fest in a new location, and they're going to want a name or two to look good in the headlines when the lineup drops.
There's one other way in which the lineup needs to improve. They need to have more and better food options onsite. One of the few good things about the old site was its proximity to a ton of eateries within a five minute walk. That's not the case here; it won't be clear what's doable until we know where the gates are, but I suspect that walking to Harvard Square for a dinner break and back will mean missing more than one set, due to the slow foot traffic we're bound to encounter on N. Harvard St./JFK St. There's a 7-11, Swissbakers, and Stone Hearth Pizza right across from the grounds on the Allston side, but those probably aren't anybody's first choices.
I've been trying to bring the Boston Calling team together with Herrell's Ice Cream on Twitter, who are still in business in Western MA, although it's been a decade or so since their popular Harvard Sq. and Allston locations had to close due to rent increases. Steve Herrell has responded positively, hopefully Crash Line takes the bait. I'd also like to see them step up their all-around food game with some of the area's better food trucks, like Stoked Pizza and Bonetown Burgers.
If they could get whomever was selling deep fried Twinkies at the Freedom Rally in Boston Common this year, that would be incredible. Put them right next to the Herrell's stand for an ice cream-deep fried Twinkies mashup.
One more random thought...I have a feeling that the film festival aspect of Boston Calling is going to be a huge failure. The problem is that while people might appreciate something non-musical which they could check out for an hour or so, if they don't like the musical acts up at that time, sitting through a 90-120 minute movie means you're missing a couple of acts to see a movie which you'll be able to catch in your local theater, cable TV, or on a streaming service in six months. The only way to successfully work it is to go the Comic-Con route and show clips from the next big Marvel Universe or Star Wars release, followed by Q&A with a couple of stars. Or get someone like David Cross, Eric Andre, or Tim & Eric to show whatever their new project is, and appear at the screening. If they just screen the same six movies that will be showing at the Kendall Square Cinema in September, it's not going to go well. I'd normally be happy to see a new movie from a director I like that won't be in wide-release for months, but I'm not giving up even remotely interesting live music to see it.
Apparently, Primavera Sound in Spain starts just a couple of days after Boston Calling. It might make sense for some acts to do Boston Calling and then pond hop over to Primavera.
The only thing I'm certain of is that they'll try to book their most stylistically diverse event to date, in order to give themselves the best chance of selling the extra 10 - 15 thousand tickets which will be available this time.
Given the much higher ticket prices -- once the superfan and early bird discounts are gone -- I'm wondering if they're going to get one or two headliners that's much bigger or hotter than we're expecting. Not Coachella or Gillette big, but TD Garden or Fenway big. The last thing they want to do is create the perception that it's just the same third-tier fest in a new location, and they're going to want a name or two to look good in the headlines when the lineup drops.
Last year there were only two crossovers with Primavera, but with a greater focus on genre diversity that number should presumably increase. Obviously Bon Iver is a major possibility.
A bunch more potential there though: The xx, Solange, Mac Demarco, Tycho, Glass Animals, Whitney (playing NYC 5/24 fwiw), Hamilton Leithauser, Pond, Joey Purp, etc.
As for headliners, I also think they'll try to get at least one major name (I'm not so sure that Coachella is bigger than Fenway...), so someone like Kendrick, Mumford, or maybe even Radiohead would give them a lot of buzz.
Do you guys think there's a chance they significantly expand Friday now that they don't have to worry about being in the city? I could see maybe 40 artists total, 10 on Friday and 15 on Sat/Sun
Do you guys think there's a chance they significantly expand Friday now that they don't have to worry about being in the city? I could see maybe 40 artists total, 10 on Friday and 15 on Sat/Sun
No
I could see 5 or 6 acts on Friday, but not a full day.
Apparently, Primavera Sound in Spain starts just a couple of days after Boston Calling. It might make sense for some acts to do Boston Calling and then pond hop over to Primavera.
The only thing I'm certain of is that they'll try to book their most stylistically diverse event to date, in order to give themselves the best chance of selling the extra 10 - 15 thousand tickets which will be available this time.
Given the much higher ticket prices -- once the superfan and early bird discounts are gone -- I'm wondering if they're going to get one or two headliners that's much bigger or hotter than we're expecting. Not Coachella or Gillette big, but TD Garden or Fenway big. The last thing they want to do is create the perception that it's just the same third-tier fest in a new location, and they're going to want a name or two to look good in the headlines when the lineup drops.
Last year there were only two crossovers with Primavera, but with a greater focus on genre diversity that number should presumably increase. Obviously Bon Iver is a major possibility.
A bunch more potential there though: The xx, Solange, Mac Demarco, Tycho, Glass Animals, Whitney (playing NYC 5/24 fwiw), Hamilton Leithauser, Pond, Joey Purp, etc.
As for headliners, I also think they'll try to get at least one major name (I'm not so sure that Coachella is bigger than Fenway...), so someone like Kendrick, Mumford, or maybe even Radiohead would give them a lot of buzz.
I also noticed Arcade Fire listed at Primavera. They fall into that same category as Mumford...very popular act that feels like they hit their sell-by date a couple of years ago. I could see someone like that headlining, but I think they'd also want a Kendrick (still on the rise) or Radiohead (got on top, stayed on top), too.
Speaking of crossovers, we've had around half-a-dozen with Sasquatch the last couple of years, so if that lineup drops first, it should be very telling.
Last year there were only two crossovers with Primavera, but with a greater focus on genre diversity that number should presumably increase. Obviously Bon Iver is a major possibility.
A bunch more potential there though: The xx, Solange, Mac Demarco, Tycho, Glass Animals, Whitney (playing NYC 5/24 fwiw), Hamilton Leithauser, Pond, Joey Purp, etc.
As for headliners, I also think they'll try to get at least one major name (I'm not so sure that Coachella is bigger than Fenway...), so someone like Kendrick, Mumford, or maybe even Radiohead would give them a lot of buzz.
I also noticed Arcade Fire listed at Primavera. They fall into that same category as Mumford...very popular act that feels like they hit their sell-by date a couple of years ago. I could see someone like that headlining, but I think they'd also want a Kendrick (still on the rise) or Radiohead (got on top, stayed on top), too.
Speaking of crossovers, we've had around half-a-dozen with Sasquatch the last couple of years, so if that lineup drops first, it should be very telling.
Arcade Fire headlined Panorama and Wayhome last year, and are working on a new album. I think they're much more similar to Radiohead than Mumford.
I also noticed Arcade Fire listed at Primavera. They fall into that same category as Mumford...very popular act that feels like they hit their sell-by date a couple of years ago. I could see someone like that headlining, but I think they'd also want a Kendrick (still on the rise) or Radiohead (got on top, stayed on top), too.
Speaking of crossovers, we've had around half-a-dozen with Sasquatch the last couple of years, so if that lineup drops first, it should be very telling.
Arcade Fire headlined Panorama and Wayhome last year, and are working on a new album. I think they're much more similar to Radiohead than Mumford.
They'd be a fine headliner, but IMHO they lost some of their buzz over the last couple of years by not having a high public profile following their their Grammy win, as other bands might have done.
On the other hand, Mumford lost some of their buzz by putting out an LP that sounded like U2 and Coldplay. Nothing wrong with them going electric, but they didn't do so in the most original way.
Take this with the usual grain of salt, but Boston Calling liked this tweet of mine, so who knows? Yes, they're doing Solid Sound a month apart from Boston Calling, but they did both Solid Sound and Gathering of the Vibes two years ago, and Bridgeport is closer to North Adams than Boston is, so it's possible.
@ Boston_Calling If they're not already booked for 2017, please make them a priority for 2018.
(Followed by link to live Wilco track.)
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Arcade Fire headlined Panorama and Wayhome last year, and are working on a new album. I think they're much more similar to Radiohead than Mumford.
They'd be a fine headliner, but IMHO they lost some of their buzz over the last couple of years by not having a high public profile following their their Grammy win, as other bands might have done.
On the other hand, Mumford lost some of their buzz by putting out an LP that sounded like U2 and Coldplay. Nothing wrong with them going electric, but they didn't do so in the most original way.
They had an NBC special to debut their Reflektor material, headlined Coachella and Glastonbury. Youre nuts.
They'd be a fine headliner, but IMHO they lost some of their buzz over the last couple of years by not having a high public profile following their their Grammy win, as other bands might have done.
On the other hand, Mumford lost some of their buzz by putting out an LP that sounded like U2 and Coldplay. Nothing wrong with them going electric, but they didn't do so in the most original way.
They had an NBC special to debut their Reflektor material, headlined Coachella and Glastonbury. Youre nuts.
You mean their *2013* album, and most recent release, Reflektor?
In today's crowded entertainment market -- music, movies, video games, comedy, TV shows, etc. -- only a select few can go three years or longer without releasing a new project without losing buzz and career momentum. People have short memories.
Of course, they'll always be able to draw a crowd, but they haven't been around long enough to have the kind of legacy artist status that ensures that any tour will sell out just about every venue. (And even Springsteen and U2 no longer sellout arenas and stadiums in minutes, if at all.) They've sat on the shelf long enough that the bloom is off the rose. Not saying that they don't make quality music, but they don't feel like the hot new thing. Boston Calling needs at least one headliner who seems "of the moment," and not just good and entertaining (and as much as I personally don't care for Sia, that's the kind of noteworthy booking that screams "artist who's just arrived at the top rung of the ladder.")
Right now, their best move is to release another album and tour, and then take 5-10 years off after announcing an indefinite hiatus. Then, they'll have reunion buzz (and reunion money) when they're back together again.
Taking time off is only a good career move if people think you might be gone for good.
They had an NBC special to debut their Reflektor material, headlined Coachella and Glastonbury. Youre nuts.
You mean their *2013* album, and most recent release, Reflektor?
In today's crowded entertainment market -- music, movies, video games, comedy, TV shows, etc. -- only a select few can go three years or longer without releasing a new project without losing buzz and career momentum. People have short memories.
Of course, they'll always be able to draw a crowd, but they haven't been around long enough to have the kind of legacy artist status that ensures that any tour will sell out just about every venue. (And even Springsteen and U2 no longer sellout arenas and stadiums in minutes, if at all.) They've sat on the shelf long enough that the bloom is off the rose. Not saying that they don't make quality music, but they don't feel like the hot new thing. Boston Calling needs at least one headliner who seems "of the moment," and not just good and entertaining (and as much as I personally don't care for Sia, that's the kind of noteworthy booking that screams "artist who's just arrived at the top rung of the ladder.")
Right now, their best move is to release another album and tour, and then take 5-10 years off after announcing an indefinite hiatus. Then, they'll have reunion buzz (and reunion money) when they're back together again.
Taking time off is only a good career move if people think you might be gone for good.
Post by matthewgroehl on Dec 21, 2016 11:53:47 GMT -5
Long time lurker to this thread... I couldn't help but respond to this discussion.
Three to five years is actually a pretty common amount of time for a band to take to release an album unless you are a huge pop star like Kanye West, Rihanna, Drake, or The Weeknd who feels the need to be in the spotlight at all times.
Here are some examples of discography from my favorite bands.
Arcade Fire:
Funeral - 2004
Neon Bible - 2007
The Suburbs - 2010
Reflektor - 2013
Next Album - 2017?
Fleet Foxes:
Fleet Foxes - 2008
Helplessness Blues - 2011
Next Album - 2017?
Grizzly Bear:
Horn Of Plenty - 2004
Yellow House - 2006
Vecktimest - 2009
Shields - 2012
Next Album - 2017?
Bon Iver:
For Emma, Forever Ago - 2007
Bon Iver, Bon Iver - 2011
22, A Million - 2016
The XX:
XX - 2009
Coexist - 2012
I See You - 2017
I've gotten pretty used to waiting around for my favorite artists to release music. Even my favorite band, Deer Tick, has changed their formula from a new album every year to a 4 year gap from their last album to their new album scheduled for 2017.
I don't think Arcade Fire fans are going to ditch the band now. Because of the media overload we have in our lives, it makes it easier to pass the time while we wait. Arcade Fire will certainly be selling out arenas and headlining festivals with their new album.
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They had an NBC special to debut their Reflektor material, headlined Coachella and Glastonbury. Youre nuts.
You mean their *2013* album, and most recent release, Reflektor?
In today's crowded entertainment market -- music, movies, video games, comedy, TV shows, etc. -- only a select few can go three years or longer without releasing a new project without losing buzz and career momentum. People have short memories.
Of course, they'll always be able to draw a crowd, but they haven't been around long enough to have the kind of legacy artist status that ensures that any tour will sell out just about every venue. (And even Springsteen and U2 no longer sellout arenas and stadiums in minutes, if at all.) They've sat on the shelf long enough that the bloom is off the rose. Not saying that they don't make quality music, but they don't feel like the hot new thing. Boston Calling needs at least one headliner who seems "of the moment," and not just good and entertaining (and as much as I personally don't care for Sia, that's the kind of noteworthy booking that screams "artist who's just arrived at the top rung of the ladder.")
Right now, their best move is to release another album and tour, and then take 5-10 years off after announcing an indefinite hiatus. Then, they'll have reunion buzz (and reunion money) when they're back together again.
Taking time off is only a good career move if people think you might be gone for good.
Wait... so you said they didn't have a "high public profile" after their Grammy win for 2010's The Suburbs, but then acknowledge they DID have a "high public profile" when they released a new album... in 2013... after The Suburbs.
By that logic, Radiohead wouldn't have been an exciting headliner during the King of Limbs tour because they didn't capitalize on their In Rainbows Grammy win and produce an album with similar popularity and critical/commercial acclaim.
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't make any sense considering we don't even know what AF's new album will be like. Considering Refklektor's immense popularity and their huge profile jump during that album's cycle, they're more than likely to be "of the moment" when their new album comes out.
Also U2 sold the TD Garden out four times in minutes, if not seconds.
I don't think Arcade Fire fans are going to ditch the band now.
You're absolutely right, diehard fans don't abandon the artists whose work they love.
But strong ticket sales are based upon selling not only to the faithful, but also to the people who've always wanted to check out a particular band live, people who used to be into a group and haven't seen them in years and feel like they want to touch base with a former favorite, people who are really into a recent song or album, etc. Those are the people you lose when you go away for a long time, but not long enough to position the return as the hot reunion.
And festivals love to book acts whose appeal extends beyond their hardcore audience to more casual fans and the curious, because that just makes the lineup more appealing. Why do you think Boston Calling booked Tenacious D, The Roots, and Childish Gambino? Whatever those acts bring to the table musically, they also bring broader celebrity which extends beyond the music, and that makes them a good booking. Whether based upon the music, cultural buzz, or broader celebrity, it helps when you can put names on the poster which attract as many of the casually curious as possible. Taking four years off if you're not U2 or Madonna is rarely a great idea, because you can lose your cultural buzz if you go away for a few years, which makes you a somewhat less attractive festival booking, in terms of the ability to sell more tickets ("Oh, them. I thought they broke up. Whatever happened to them." #DontBeThatBand).