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I was a happy meat-eater for the majority of my life. When you like something, you find it pretty easy to ignore the news and facts that could ruin the experience for you.
I didn't become a vegetarian because of ethics, but because it would be far easier to cook for my family since my husband had become one. Now a year into it, I do occasionally miss an awesome steak or some Maryland crabs. Crazy how every time a craving comes along, so does a news article like this...
Meat DOES taste good... organic and free range meat tastes even better! If you're gonna eat it, support those who give that animal a decent life. Better for the animal, better for your karma, and better for your health!
while I don't condone animal cruelty - I still like meat and will still eat it
my daughter is a vegetarian (as you know) in that she does not eat red meat, chicken or pork - she does eat seafood - and that is a decision I support but I still like my steak every now and then.
I have to admit that her lifestyle choice has changed the way we eat in our household - we eat more vegetarian stuff now. Specially on the nights Boz works and is not home for dinner but....he is a meat and taters kinda guy.
BTW - I am still in need of some good recipes for tempeh - she is not a big one for tofu (we have tried)
while I don't condone animal cruelty - I still like meat and will still eat it
my daughter is a vegetarian (as you know) in that she does not eat red meat, chicken or pork - she does eat seafood - and that is a decision I support but I still like my steak every now and then.
I have to admit that her lifestyle choice has changed the way we eat in our household - we eat more vegetarian stuff now. Specially on the nights Boz works and is not home for dinner but....he is a meat and taters kinda guy.
BTW - I am still in need of some good recipes for tempeh - she is not a big one for tofu (we have tried)
i have some tempeh in my fridge. i have no idea what to do with it. it looks....grainy.
My husband loooves tempeh. I can't get into it. A random place I have found great vegetarian recipes is through StumbleUpon. I told them i was interested in health and vegetarianism, thumbs-up that which I like and end up with TONS of great recipes and ideas. It's almost as addictive as Inforoo! ;D
I was a happy meat-eater for the majority of my life. When you like something, you find it pretty easy to ignore the news and facts that could ruin the experience for you.
I didn't become a vegetarian because of ethics, but because it would be far easier to cook for my family since my husband had become one. Now a year into it, I do occasionally miss an awesome steak or some Maryland crabs. Crazy how every time a craving comes along, so does a news article like this...
Meat DOES taste good... organic and free range meat tastes even better! If you're gonna eat it, support those who give that animal a decent life. Better for the animal, better for your karma, and better for your health!
a close friend of mine in college was vegetarian. then she became vegan.
then one day....she really wanted prime rib.
so now she is back to being omnivorous.
for me, im torn - since i do love animals, but i enjoy meat. even my gf, who is a freakin vet, eats meat.
i wish i had a local source meat supply... but i am trying to eat less meat than usual, since i think we just eat too much of it.
Post by Fishing Maniac on Feb 18, 2008 12:18:23 GMT -5
happybunny said:
fishingmaniac said:
Animals taste good.
So it's OK with you that they are beaten, shocked and dragged through feces to get to your dinner plate?
I do not eat meat, but I did most of my life. I had enough respect for the animanls not to condone this kind of animal cruelty.
The average fast food hamburger is made from the meat of 20 cows. I hope for your sake that the next one you eat was not dragged through sh!t.
1. I was just being a wisenheimer. I'm sorry if you found my post abrasive. I just couldn't resist.
2. I never condoned anything.
3. I never actually said that I eat meat. Enough animals eat other animals and there are so many successful industries based around the consumption of meat that logic would dictate they taste good...
That and I love to eat meat.
4. Regardles of what I do or do not eat, I try to avoid fast food.
Post by trippindaisy on Feb 18, 2008 12:23:11 GMT -5
I'm 40 and have never eaten a steak. As long as I can remember I have never liked red meat. I have eaten it on occasion (burgers) but it's never been something I really like. Not because of an ethical thing, just because it grossed me out. I do eat chicken, turkey and fish, though.
My husband loooves tempeh. I can't get into it. A random place I have found great vegetarian recipes is through StumbleUpon. I told them i was interested in health and vegetarianism, thumbs-up that which I like and end up with TONS of great recipes and ideas. It's almost as addictive as Inforoo! ;D
Hey - that texmex noodles recipe is awesome - I htink I can actually convert it to what I had planned tonight - which was a mexican rice dish with ground turkey - but instead of the ground turkey - I can use chopped up tempeh - thank you!!
Post by koyaanisqatsi on Feb 18, 2008 12:27:26 GMT -5
I've read several articles on this instance now, and the worst part of it is that much of the lot was cafeteria beef, you know, for the kids. Like much of the "aid" we give away as such a benevolent nation is experimental genetically modified science fair project level "nutrition".
My wife and I gave up meat for about a month close to ten years ago. Then we gave it up for the next month and the next one. And decided why go back.
There are so many reasons to be a vegetarian. People often ask us why we do it. We love animals. We like the healthy side of it for sure. It has vastly expanded our diets and awareness of other cultures. We do all we can to be sustainably minded responsible people who give as much as we take. We like to reward people who respect those values and bring us tasty, healthy, organic products filled with essences of life. We are gifted with the burden of knowledge of how these animals are treated, and that the reason for this type of treatment is purely for profit and cannot deny it for our own gratification.
But mostly, we enjoy the fact that we don't reward the people who do this kind of crap with our $$.
It is hard to stop eating meat... but once I did I felt so much better. No acid reflux, no more digestive issues, no lactose intolerance (yeah I still consume dairy and eggs), I stopped snoring and I sleep better. Funny how it is all connected. Oh, my sense of smell and taste is far more pronounced as well...
And I was SUCH the steak and burger girl, but once I went vegetarian, I stopped craving that as much and started really having hankerings for other things... oysters and Buffalo wings mostly. And those Buffalo chik'n nuggets are not a good replacement.
However another funny thing that happened when removing meat from my diet... I became calmer. my husband says it is because I am no longer consuming the stress hormones released from an animal at death. I don't know WHAT it is, but I do feel a difference - an ability to brush things off better, not take things to personally, and to be in general more at ease.
When I was ten, I watched my seven year old sister bite into a hot dog and pull out a candy wrapper with her teeth.
OMG that is so gross! But not surprising, considering the process to make hot dogs
Though I used to LOVE hot dogs! I was a lifeguard for many many years at various community, apartment and country club pools and we often had to man the snack bar between stints in the chair. Nothing better than slicing a hot dog in half, letting it sizzle on the grill, in the mean time sautee up some onions next to it, butter a bun and drop that also on the grill and put it all together with some mustard and cheese.... ;D
while I don't condone animal cruelty - I still like meat and will still eat it
my daughter is a vegetarian (as you know) in that she does not eat red meat, chicken or pork - she does eat seafood - and that is a decision I support but I still like my steak every now and then.
I have to admit that her lifestyle choice has changed the way we eat in our household - we eat more vegetarian stuff now. Specially on the nights Boz works and is not home for dinner but....he is a meat and taters kinda guy.
BTW - I am still in need of some good recipes for tempeh - she is not a big one for tofu (we have tried)
Your daughter is not a vegetarian. She is a pescetarian. My aunt used to be a pescetarian and it would drive me crazy that she called herself a vegetarian (that is what I am).
A pescetarian eats seafood, but does not consume the flesh of any other animal. A vegetarian does not consume the flesh of any animal.
Post by koyaanisqatsi on Feb 18, 2008 13:23:45 GMT -5
alieblue said:
koyaanisqatsi said:
When I was ten, I watched my seven year old sister bite into a hot dog and pull out a candy wrapper with her teeth.
OMG that is so gross! But not surprising, considering the process to make hot dogs
Though I used to LOVE hot dogs! I was a lifeguard for many many years at various community, apartment and country club pools and we often had to man the snack bar between stints in the chair. Nothing better than slicing a hot dog in half, letting it sizzle on the grill, in the mean time sautee up some onions next to it, butter a bun and drop that also on the grill and put it all together with some mustard and cheese.... ;D
Yeah-the only way to really enjoy a hot dog from that point on was to pile all of the kraut, chilli, onions, relish, etc, etc, and go into DEEP DENIAL !!!
But I still love to drive by a steakhouse for the smell of grilling flesh. It's understandable the instinct that drives most to consume it 'til they're bloated and have the colon of John Wayne.
But we're also given the power to not be ruled by such instincts-adapt and overcome !
while I don't condone animal cruelty - I still like meat and will still eat it
my daughter is a vegetarian (as you know) in that she does not eat red meat, chicken or pork - she does eat seafood - and that is a decision I support but I still like my steak every now and then.
I have to admit that her lifestyle choice has changed the way we eat in our household - we eat more vegetarian stuff now. Specially on the nights Boz works and is not home for dinner but....he is a meat and taters kinda guy.
BTW - I am still in need of some good recipes for tempeh - she is not a big one for tofu (we have tried)
Your daughter is not a vegetarian. She is a pescetarian. My aunt used to be a pescetarian and it would drive me crazy that she called herself a vegetarian (that is what I am).
A pescetarian eats seafood, but does not consume the flesh of any other animal. A vegetarian does not consume the flesh of any animal.
why thank you - but we already knew that - I just did not mention it here because I kinda figured most people knew there was a technical term for it - at any rate - I support her decision and try to cook for her at times - at the very least - I hunt up recipes for us to try out together in the kitchen - it gives us time together
Post by rpgreligion on Feb 18, 2008 21:26:38 GMT -5
Eh..that's pretty damn disturbing. I don't have the willpower for the vegetarian or vegan thing, but one benefit (one of the only really ) of stocking an organic grocery store is all the meat sold in our butcher shop is all natural and free range, and all that other good stuff (no hormones, no antibiotics, yaddy yaddy ya). I can at least feel a little better about myself, right?
Post by Mrs. Ferret on Feb 18, 2008 22:54:42 GMT -5
bos1969 said:
rb3312 said:
Your daughter is not a vegetarian. She is a pescetarian. My aunt used to be a pescetarian and it would drive me crazy that she called herself a vegetarian (that is what I am).
A pescetarian eats seafood, but does not consume the flesh of any other animal. A vegetarian does not consume the flesh of any animal.
why thank you - but we already knew that - I just did not mention it here because I kinda figured most people knew there was a technical term for it - at any rate - I support her decision and try to cook for her at times - at the very least - I hunt up recipes for us to try out together in the kitchen - it gives us time together
Sorry, I really wasn't trying to be an A-hole. It's just that this is an issue that is extremely important to me, and since you stated "my daughter is a vegetarian" right before saying that "she does eat seafood," I found it necessary to correct you since vegetarians do not eat seafood.
Post by Mrs. Ferret on Feb 18, 2008 23:01:13 GMT -5
alieblue said:
However another funny thing that happened when removing meat from my diet... I became calmer. my husband says it is because I am no longer consuming the stress hormones released from an animal at death. I don't know WHAT it is, but I do feel a difference - an ability to brush things off better, not take things to personally, and to be in general more at ease.
Post by koyaanisqatsi on Feb 19, 2008 7:57:23 GMT -5
rpgreligion said:
Eh..that's pretty damn disturbing. I don't have the willpower for the vegetarian or vegan thing, but one benefit (one of the only really ) of stocking an organic grocery store is all the meat sold in our butcher shop is all natural and free range, and all that other good stuff (no hormones, no antibiotics, yaddy yaddy ya). I can at least feel a little better about myself, right?
ABSOLUTELY.
You have spared the animals a horrible life(for the most part). You have rewarded the farmers for being ethical. You have eaten much healthier than you might have otherwise. You have supported an industry that is more sustainable. You kept money out of the hands of torturers. You enabled people like yourself to have jobs doing the right things. You ate some tasty morsels, I'm sure. And you filled your body with nutrients that most replace with chemicals. Kudos.
So long as you don't hear the blood curdling scream of death in your mind as you bite down !!! !!!!!!
Regarding the vegetarian/pescatarian thing... (and I totally understand why you simplified it for this post Meg this rant is a different matter) but why do most people and places think being a vegetarian includes the eating of fish and shellfish?
I will tell people that I am a vegetarian and they will say, "oh no worries, we're cooking salmon" or a restaurant will show me their seafood options. Growing up, I was not raised a vegetarian nor did I know many, but I knew that the word meant a person who did not eat animals. When did this change?
I met a girl on a trip who said she was a vegetarian and was all about wearing it literally on her sleeve, her chest, on her car in stickers, all over her social networking pages... but ate fish, shellfish, French onion soup the traditional way, Caesar salad with classic dressing... annoyed the SH!T out of me. Honestly, eat what you want and feel good about it, but don't try to be something you are not.
Maybe if this country knew what the word meant, there may be some more options at restaurants. Try eating at a TGIFridays without having the dish recreated for you. Your options are: - greasy fried and cheesy portabello sandwich with red pepper soup - fried green beans - fried mozzarella sticks - the most pitiful little house salad on the planet - French fries
Um yeah... that's it. No vegetarian pasta dishes, no vegetarian salads, no vegetarian appetizers except a plate of lard (though man those green beans are pretty phenomenal with a tall cold one!) ;D a new family-owned Italian restaurant near us that gets rave reviews has TWO vegetarian dishes on the whole menu. Six-page menu and all we could eat was garlic bread, stuffed shells and a weird version of moussaka.
) of stocking an organic grocery store is all the meat sold in our butcher shop is all natural and free range, and all that other good stuff (no hormones, no antibiotics, yaddy yaddy ya). I can at least feel a little better about myself, right?