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Post by BonnarooDetective on Jun 5, 2008 9:48:49 GMT -5
I am positive that low ticket sales have a lot more to do with Metallica and Rothbury than they do with high gas costs. I drive an SUV and have a long fairly long drive to Bonnaroo (700 miles). Fuel to and from the festival will cost me, in total, about 60 dollars more than last year. Split between at least one other occupant and high gas prices are only costing me an extra 30 bucks, not a big deal. However, I know quite a few people who are not going to Bonnaroo this year because of the line-up, in large part due to the presence of Metallica. Recall how many people on this very message board made posts that they weren't going this year after the line-up was announced. Personally, I have three friends who have gone with me every year for the past three years, who are not going this year because of the line-up. They are all going to other festivals. My parents even, who were absolutely certain they were going to Bonnaroo after the great time they had last year, are not going this year because they are disappointed in the line-up (once again, not an economic decision, they're going to Virgin instead). I'm sure a slumping economy played a hand in slower ticket sales, but I don't really think it was the primary factor.
I am positive that low ticket sales have a lot more to do with Metallica and Rothbury than they do with high gas costs. I drive an SUV and have a long fairly long drive to Bonnaroo (700 miles). Fuel to and from the festival will cost me, in total, about 60 dollars more than last year. Split between at least one other occupant and high gas prices are only costing me an extra 30 bucks, not a big deal. However, I know quite a few people who are not going to Bonnaroo this year because of the line-up, in large part due to the presence of Metallica. Recall how many people on this very message board made posts that they weren't going this year after the line-up was announced. Personally, I have three friends who have gone with me every year for the past three years, who are not going this year because of the line-up. They are all going to other festivals. My parents even, who were absolutely certain they were going to Bonnaroo after the great time they had last year, are not going this year because they are disappointed in the line-up (once again, not an economic decision, they're going to Virgin instead). I'm sure a slumping economy played a hand in slower ticket sales, but I don't really think it was the primary factor.
i would bet that there are a lot of people who are going this year for the first time because of pearl jam. i think people who never really got into them underestimate just how hardcore thier fanbase is. it rivals anything ive ever seen...phish included.
I am positive that low ticket sales have a lot more to do with Metallica and Rothbury than they do with high gas costs. I drive an SUV and have a long fairly long drive to Bonnaroo (700 miles). Fuel to and from the festival will cost me, in total, about 60 dollars more than last year. Split between at least one other occupant and high gas prices are only costing me an extra 30 bucks, not a big deal. However, I know quite a few people who are not going to Bonnaroo this year because of the line-up, in large part due to the presence of Metallica. Recall how many people on this very message board made posts that they weren't going this year after the line-up was announced. Personally, I have three friends who have gone with me every year for the past three years, who are not going this year because of the line-up. They are all going to other festivals. My parents even, who were absolutely certain they were going to Bonnaroo after the great time they had last year, are not going this year because they are disappointed in the line-up (once again, not an economic decision, they're going to Virgin instead). I'm sure a slumping economy played a hand in slower ticket sales, but I don't really think it was the primary factor.
I think your spot on I also think tho it has a lot to do with the fact that many of the bands on the lineup while being hugely popular bands do not have fans that will spend a ton of money to travel across the country to see. so while some of the smaller bands have less fans more of their fans are truely dedicated and Rothbury put all these bands in one place. bonnaroo tried something a tad bit new this year and with everything factored in it didnt work out as well as they had hoped.
Post by drbrainfreeze on Jun 5, 2008 10:07:52 GMT -5
I agree Meg about the trend of not booking bands back to back..
I think Britneys point was why spend ooodles of money on those 3 acts when there were probably 100 others bands they could have added that would have had cost half the money and 'roo would still draw 60 k without blinking.
I am super happy with the lineup..by the way.
I think is 'roo wants to stay fresh (in the years to come) it won't be by dragging another dino rock group out of retirement (even LZ considering it will probably be part of some massive take over the world tour) or by spending even more money on artists..I think that 'roo needs to take new approaches to the existing format. Maybe Duel headliners. Maybe unique sets like the Waters DSOTM. Maybe Thursday headliner. maybe a casino on site
I believe many people misunderstand how higher gas prices affect people's choices. The problem with higher gas prices is not this one trip. It's the extra amount you have to pay over the 15,000 miles the average person drives in a year that eats into your budget.
When you combine the increase in the cost of gas along with the increase in the cost food and other important things such as electricity you quickly find a lot of people no longer have the extra money they used to have for fun extras like Bonnaroo. Lets face it, going to Bonnaroo is not cheap. It is much more economical to go to a local day festival than it is to travel to TN and camp for several days.
I would say that other festival options and economic situations have led to a decrease in attendance much more than any particular band being in the lineup. This being said other festivals are going to have a hard time also as they may not be nearly as established as Bonnaroo yet also have to compete with the multitude of festivals, deal with increased costs, and high fuel and other costs eating into the budgets of festival goers.
When you combine the increase in the cost of gas along with the increase in the cost food and other important things such as electricity you quickly find a lot of people no longer have the extra money they used to have for fun extras like Bonnaroo. Lets face it, going to Bonnaroo is not cheap. It is much more economical to go to a local day festival than it is to travel to TN and camp for several days.
This - it is not JUST the high cost of gas - this has affected the prices of everything - we are paying more for gas, food, clothing, utilities - it all factors in - not just the $30-60 extra in gas to get to 'roo this year
Do i think the choice of headliners had some effect - yeah - a little maybe - people were not as excited as in past years - but I think the economy has a lot more to do with it then who is playing
Post by Britney's_Fears on Jun 5, 2008 11:36:28 GMT -5
It's the economy. We are sitting on the precipice of a social and economic breakdown in this country that could rival The Great Depression of the 30s. Have you shopped for groceries lately? When food gets too high for people to afford we are all royally F**KED.
TLG was there last year tho - and they normally do not book bands two years in a row - there have been exceptions - I think - but it is outside the norm for them
I was just using TLG as an example. There's a lot of smaller bands out there that have rabid cult followings. (like Ween, I would pay more to see Ween than Metallica)
Apparently My Morning Jacket is one of them (bands with a rabid cult following) after reading these boards. Respect to the MMJ fans.
Post by Britney's_Fears on Jun 5, 2008 11:42:43 GMT -5
Honestly people, if I could get my ticket refunded in full. I would take all of the money I have saved for Roo and put it back into my household budget. With everything costing as much as it does now, I feel like a real heel spending close to $1000 on this trip.
Post by thequietman1007 on Jun 5, 2008 12:06:32 GMT -5
huggies or pampers. what kinnd of diapers do you want. Thats all you guys do is cry. Go to bonaroo and have a great time. Quit your bitchen Dont blame metallica because your little crybabies. Go see the show and get ready to be suprised or dont and leave the rest of some room to have a good time. Losers
huggies or pampers. what kinnd of diapers do you want. Thats all you guys do is cry. Go to bonaroo and have a great time. Quit your bitchen Dont blame metallica because your little crybabies. Go see the show and get ready to be suprised or dont and leave the rest of some room to have a good time. Losers
huggies or pampers. what kinnd of diapers do you want. Thats all you guys do is cry. Go to bonaroo and have a great time. Quit your bitchen Dont blame metallica because your little crybabies. Go see the show and get ready to be suprised or dont and leave the rest of some room to have a good time. Losers
Post by BonnarooDetective on Jun 5, 2008 12:15:44 GMT -5
Every time someone on this board says something critical of anything about Bonnaroo, someone comes along and says "oh, let's all just have a good time and enjoy Bonnaroo". For once I'd like to have a real discussion, without anyone complaining about people complaining. Posts telling people to stop complaining are hypocritical; and when coupled with name-calling they're simply childish. Quit trolling. Message Boards are for discussion, if you disagree with someone, articulate an argument to explain why.
Every time someone on this board says something critical of anything about Bonnaroo, someone comes along and says "oh, let's all just have a good time and enjoy Bonnaroo". For once I'd like to have a real discussion, without anyone complaining about people complaining. Posts telling people to stop complaining are hypocritical; and when coupled with name-calling they're simply childish.
i agree with this. people are allowed opinions. i mean, they are like bungholes. bonnaroo isnt the be all and end all to all things music. i think its a good thing to discuss the pluses and minuses of it....because really we are all obsessed with anything bonnaroo related, arent we ;D? now, carry on. ;D
Every time someone on this board says something critical of anything about Bonnaroo, someone comes along and says "oh, let's all just have a good time and enjoy Bonnaroo". For once I'd like to have a real discussion, without anyone complaining about people complaining. Posts telling people to stop complaining are hypocritical; and when coupled with name-calling they're simply childish.
not to nitpick, but he was posing a question on the type of diaper the complainers would prefer. that is a quality discussion, imho.
Every time someone on this board says something critical of anything about Bonnaroo, someone comes along and says "oh, let's all just have a good time and enjoy Bonnaroo". For once I'd like to have a real discussion, without anyone complaining about people complaining. Posts telling people to stop complaining are hypocritical; and when coupled with name-calling they're simply childish.
not to nitpick, but he was posing a question on the type of diaper the complainers would prefer. that is a quality discussion, imho.
Well then it should have included a question mark and not statements such as "cry babies" and "losers".
Every time someone on this board says something critical of anything about Bonnaroo, someone comes along and says "oh, let's all just have a good time and enjoy Bonnaroo". For once I'd like to have a real discussion, without anyone complaining about people complaining. Posts telling people to stop complaining are hypocritical; and when coupled with name-calling they're simply childish.
not to nitpick, but he was posing a question on the type of diaper the complainers would prefer. that is a quality discussion, imho.
honestly i didnt see any "complaining" in this thread... just discussion about why ticket sales may be low.
Post by thequietman1007 on Jun 5, 2008 12:22:42 GMT -5
I have been on this website for over three months and all it has been is complaining. Everybody just relax and have a great time and quit worrying about other fests and other people that arent even going. This is going to be a awsome time.Fuck yeah
not to nitpick, but he was posing a question on the type of diaper the complainers would prefer. that is a quality discussion, imho.
honestly i didnt see any "complaining" in this thread... just discussion about why ticket sales may be low.
I gotta agree with cupcake here - I thought this was strictly a speculation about why ticket sales are low - not complaining about any particular band being there - seems like we were all just throwingout the reasons we think ticket sales are slow this year - there are alot of factors involved in this and - facts are facts - the choice of bands is one of those factors
I have been on this website for over three months and all it has been is complaining.
really? all you see is people complaining? i must be looking at a totally different message board than you. (i know im feeding the troll but i cant help myself)
I have been on this website for over three months and all it has been is complaining. Everybody just relax and have a great time and quit worrying about other fests and other people that arent even going. This is going to be a awsome time.Fuck yeah
it's called, "having a discussion" or "holding a conversation"