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I really must be missing something here. I find it strange that the same people who like diversity in their music see no reason why there should be diversity in the headliners... I'm not trying to be rude at all here, I'm just trying to understand this. Can someone explain to me why so far the sentiment of Phish Phans seems to be:
Two 3-4 hour Headlining Slots (6-8 hours total Phish) > One 3-4 hour Headlining Slot + One 6 hour Late Night Slot (9-10 hours total Phish)
Wouldn't you guys rather have 9-10 hours than just 6-8? Wouldn't we ALL benefit from that?
and whats up with Jay-Z, is he trying to build a hippy fanbase lol.
people can complain about kanye all day, but i believe we can all agree that jay-z is one of the if not the greatest rapper of all time. look up "jay-z glastonbury" on youtube if you think he isn't awesome.
I really must be missing something here. I find it strange that the same people who like diversity in their music see no reason why there should be diversity in the headliners... I'm not trying to be rude at all here, I'm just trying to understand this. Can someone explain to me why so far the sentiment of Phish Phans seems to be:
Two 3-4 hour Headlining Slots (6-8 hours total Phish) > One 3-4 hour Headlining Slot + One 6 hour Late Night Slot (9-10 hours total Phish)
Wouldn't you guys rather have 9-10 hours than just 6-8? Wouldn't we ALL benefit from that?
agree more phish more fun but phish latenight would have so so so may conflicts i'd rather them headline when nobody else is playing then have to decide between them and some 20 other bands
The whole "Phish shouldn't play 2 nights" posts are f*ckin hilarious. Clearly you people who are posting this are not very well versed in Phish, their fans, the way they play, or the fact that Bonnaroo is essentially the Phish Festival format crossed with the NOLA jazz fest format.
Phish not only WILL play 2 nights, but they deserve no less. There will be as much variety in the 2 shows Phish plays as you will get the entire weekend seeing many different bands. Their success is single-handedly responsible for many of the bands that have become Roo regulars, such as tDB, Umphrey's McGee, and of course Trey Anastasio. Hell Trey Anastasio alone brought thousands and thousands of fans to the first Bonnaroo for just Sunday!
There was a time when fans would have clamored for Phish to play Bonnaroo for 2 nights. Those were the days when Bonnaroo fans were primarily jamband fans. Those days are gone, but the fact of the matter is, Bonnaroo didn't sell out last year, and has struggled to sell out the last 2 years. Phish playing 2 nights will almost guarantee a sell out.
Those of you who don't think Phish deserves two nights are flat out wrong. I'm sorry, you just are. I've gone to EVERY SINGLE BONNAROO, and can tell you as a veteran of the festival, they deserve 2 nights, and no less.
How can our opinions be wrong? ???
I'm fine with them playing two nights, but like I said before IN MY OPINION I'd rather they play ONE headline slot, and one super-long latenight slot. You Phish fans will get an extra couple hours of hearing them, and we non-Phish fans will get an extra "headliner" on the main stage one of the nights. I consider it win-win all around if they do things this way.
As for:
"There will be as much variety in the 2 shows Phish plays as you will get the entire weekend seeing many different bands"
I may not be well versed in the ways of Phish, but are you saying that Phish alone has the diversity of all the bands that could possibly be at 'Roo put together? Last year I checked out Sharon Jones, Against Me!, The Sword, Talib Kweli, Pearl Jam, Tiesto, and Alison Krauss to name a few... are you saying Phish alone will span this diversity? Because if so, then by all means bring on the Phish. I kind of doubt this could be possible however, so I'm going to assume you've gotten a bit fanatical. Anyway....
All we're trying to say is that we want diversity in our headliners. The beauty of Bonnaroo is that if you don't like something, there's usually something else to check out. I'm fine with ONE night being something I don't really care about, but forcing TWO nights of the same band headlining blows. That's why I want their second set to be latenight, at least that way I'll have something else to check out.
/before you smite me, please realize I didn't say anything negative about Phish, just that I personally don't want to see them twice.
Absolutely, I'm saying Phish will span that diversity. In the course of one two-set Phish show, it is not uncommon for them to span multiple genres. You'll hear elements of jazz, bluegrass, rock, blues, funk, prog-rock, psychedelic rock, reggae, carrbbean calypso, and it just starts there. There is the chance for them to cover Zeppelin, Robert Palmer, Velvet Underground, Duke Ellington, ZZ Top, Deodato,The Mustangss and the list goes on and on and on. Phish is one of the most versatile bands that has ever played. Bar none.
Their ability bridge the genre gap is unlike any other band I have ever seen play music at Bonnaroo, or anywhere else. They have a unique, inherent ability to blend multiple genres into a seamless format.
The drew annually to their big festivals, like Bonnaroo does to its own. This is because Phish has the ability to wrap all these different genres into one format, allowing people from all walks of life to come in and find themselves at home within Phish's music. What other reason would 80,000 fans trek to Maine for one band? I assure it was not for the drugs.
I understand that if you have never seen Phish, you may want to see them play only one show. But please understand you are in the minority here. There are countless thousands of fans who have supported Bonnaroo from day one, who have pined, yearned, hoped and prayed that one day Phish would set foot on the farm to play. These fans aren't the type of fans who see one show and go home. These are the type of fans that see one show, and then travel to the next..
It looks like that day has finally come. After 7 long years, and incessant rumors that Phish would play the first, second, third, fourth Roos. It looks like this rumor has finally come to fruition. It is a confluence of two heavy hitters for the jam scene. And Whether you like it or not, Bonnaroo is grounded in the jam scene. Yes they explore diversity, but they are firmly grounded in the jamband element, and Phish is the biggest jamband this side of the Grateful Dead.
FWIW, I would never smite someone for a discussion. It is in my best interest to explain to people where I am coming from and to try to do it in a way that others can understand where I am coming from.
I stand here today to tell you that 13 years ago Phish changed my life forever. I would never have gone to Bonnaroo, and I would not be typing these words on this board today if not for them.
Please give us the dignity of allowing us to rejoice in our 7 year wait.
Phish for 2 nights is not impetus for me to buy a ticket. It is by no means a deterrent.
If I get the magic 3 combo to cause me to buy a ticket (which I always seem to do), I will definitely be at the first night of Phish to check out what all the crazed fanaticism is about.
Last Edit: Dec 16, 2008 18:52:52 GMT -5 by dudezer47 - Back to Top
Please give us the dignity of allowing us to rejoice in our 7 year wait.
Definitely not trying to step on anyone's toes by discussing this. Rejoice away, don't let me stop you. I just think there's a happy medium to be had instead of tipping the scales so favorably towards one side.
You guys were upset last year when Metallica was booked for ONE night, imagine how upset you would have been if they had been booked for TWO nights. When I look at it from your perspective I'm happy for you guys that you got your favorite band. I just wish you'd look at it from our perspective too to see that a compromise could easily be made.
A little balance, that's all I'm asking for. But please, don't let my posts stop you from rejoicing.
Please give us the dignity of allowing us to rejoice in our 7 year wait.
Definitely not trying to step on anyone's toes by discussing this. Rejoice away, don't let me stop you. I just think there's a happy medium to be had instead of tipping the scales so favorably towards one side.
You guys were upset last year when Metallica was booked for ONE night, imagine how upset you would have been if they had been booked for TWO nights. When I look at it from your perspective I'm happy for you guys that you got your favorite band. I just wish you'd look at it from our perspective too to see that a compromise could easily be made.
A little balance, that's all I'm asking for. But please, don't let my posts stop you from rejoicing.
Exactly, it's not that I don't like the thought of Phish playing Bonnaroo, they are more than deserving of a headlining spot after all the success they've had touring and their very devoted fans, but the thought of them automatically getting two nights. Why don't they just do their own festival if it's going to be two nights. This is Bonnaroo a festival for all music, why should one band get two nights when we could have another headliner. I also don't like the fans who think Phish is too good for Bonnaroo, (nobody on this board but reading the phish boards it's a different story) if these people show up for one band and not giving the rest of the weekends bands a shot, than it brings down the festival.
Post by strumntheguitar on Dec 16, 2008 19:22:04 GMT -5
The problem with Phish playing a late night is where to put them. They'd have to open up the main stage again for the late night show, because I mean hell even the Flaming Lips overpacked the Which Stage, and they were playing against Mule at the same time. Phish and their fans would tear that stage apart. In fact, even the What Stage would be packed to the brim, regardless of the time slot.
I'd be all about a 3-6:30 am show on the main stage. I mean, if Kanye gets to do it then Phish sure as hell can. I don't foresee the same problems happening with Phish playing that slot instead.
OK let's look at this another way. Does anyone really think it would be above Superfly to leak this rumor just to boost early bird sales? I mean, come on. Phish just announced their reunion, people are getting antsy about festival lineups, there's been alot of talk about the possibility of Phish at Roo. It doesn't take a genius to realise what a little harmless rumor would do for marketing.
Not saying that's definitely the case. Just saying, don't get too excited until the lineup comes out.
Definitely not trying to step on anyone's toes by discussing this. Rejoice away, don't let me stop you. I just think there's a happy medium to be had instead of tipping the scales so favorably towards one side.
You guys were upset last year when Metallica was booked for ONE night, imagine how upset you would have been if they had been booked for TWO nights. When I look at it from your perspective I'm happy for you guys that you got your favorite band. I just wish you'd look at it from our perspective too to see that a compromise could easily be made.
A little balance, that's all I'm asking for. But please, don't let my posts stop you from rejoicing.
Exactly, it's not that I don't like the thought of Phish playing Bonnaroo, they are more than deserving of a headlining spot after all the success they've had touring and their very devoted fans, but the thought of them automatically getting two nights. Why don't they just do their own festival if it's going to be two nights. This is Bonnaroo a festival for all music, why should one band get two nights when we could have another headliner. I also don't like the fans who think Phish is too good for Bonnaroo, (nobody on this board but reading the phish boards it's a different story) if these people show up for one band and not giving the rest of the weekends bands a shot, than it brings down the festival.
I see your side of things, for sure, but lately it's seemed to me like there really aren't that many bands who could legitimately headline Bonnaroo. There are some that we say are good enough but not big enough, others that are big enough but not good enough, and some aren't relevant enough.
And it's possible that maybe other bands' schedules didn't line up that well with Superfly's...we've seen that happen with plenty of other potential headliners in the past. Last year they had so much trouble getting headliners that they got Jack Johnson, who everyone complained about ("not big enough," "too bland")...and then switched him out for more Panic. Maybe two nights of Phish isn't so bad.
OK let's look at this another way. Does anyone really think it would be above Superfly to leak this rumor just to boost early bird sales? I mean, come on. Phish just announced their reunion, people are getting antsy about festival lineups, there's been alot of talk about the possibility of Phish at Roo. It doesn't take a genius to realise what a little harmless rumor would do for marketing.
Not saying that's definitely the case. Just saying, don't get too excited until the lineup comes out.
Post by waitingfornextyear on Dec 16, 2008 19:41:40 GMT -5
If this rumor is true, there would have do be a borderline miracle for me to make it a third year in a row. FYI, when I posted this, my karma was at +5...
11/2/19: Tool 5/17/19: Blues Traveler 5/9/19: Tool 11/10/18: Tenacious D 9/20/18: White Denim 7/23/18: Radiohead 6/4/18: Jack White 5/20/18: Tool 5/18/18: A Perfect Circle 5/18/18: Alice in Chains 5/6/18: Blind Melon
I think if Phish does play twice, it will be a headlining show Friday night and a late night set Saturday night, probably both on the What Stage. So if you aren't a Phish fan, this guarantees A) another What Stage headliner besides Springsteen (if you believe the Rolling Stone article) and 2 open Which Stage late night sets. It's a win-win in my opinion.
Not pissing my pants about Phish, but I can understand those who are. I might hang out in the back and make some new friends while they're playing, granted I don't need a nap before Late Night. If this rumor turns out to be true, then Bonnaroo definitely earned a ton of karma from me because I think the vibe of this kind of line-up definitely takes them back to basics in a big way, especially after what happened this last year. This kind of line-up is really the only way to top themselves while maintaining their core fanbase.
