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You know, they say the Velociraptor Virus is what killed off the dinosaurs...we might need to take this all more seriously. I just bought a 500 gallon tub of Purell on ebay to bathe my family in every night.
awesome first post have some karma, and welcome to the board.
One of my wifes boss's was just on TV giving a live update. 8 confirmed cases in SC and 40 suspected cases. So I guess you were wrong about the kids from Newberry Academy earlier in this thread Jess.
What bothers the hell out of me is you are doing the exact same thing as people that are going overboard and being "alarmist". To go overboard on either side would be wrong. Its not wise to freak about it and it is equally as foolish to do nothing but crack jokes and try and make it look like complete BS. Like I said if you had a family member to get sick from this you would more than likely be singing a different tune.
Yes, I know that at least one of them was a two year old. And he was from Mexico (just visiting the US).
There has been reports of it that some people in Chicago got it, but I thought I heard they were in a predominately Mexican area........I could be wrong though
I had sort of thought about this when this whole thing first started. I live in predominantly Mexican neighborhood here in Memphis. I mean, I'm definitely not worried about it or anything, but I did wonder if the media would address the community. We actually have a huge latino population here.
One of my wifes boss's was just on TV giving a live update. 8 confirmed cases in SC and 40 suspected cases. So I guess you were wrong about the kids from Newberry Academy earlier in this thread Jess.
What bothers the hell out of me is you are doing the exact same thing as people that are going overboard and being "alarmist". To go overboard on either side would be wrong. Its not wise to freak about it and it is equally as foolish to do nothing but crack jokes and try and make it look like complete BS. Like I said if you had a family member to get sick from this you would more than likely be singing a different tune.
Post by shagadellic on Apr 30, 2009 11:20:38 GMT -5
My mother in law works at Scott+White hospital here in Austin, and she said that the doctors and board members are not worried about it all. The advice given to me from her(she's a head Nurse) was to wash my hands.......take that as you will
Its not wise to freak about it and it is equally as foolish to do nothing but crack jokes
How is cracking jokes doing any harm? I just don't see how it is foolish.
Never really said it causes harm. I am saying that being completely dismissive is pretty much no different than being completely alarmist.
Its like arguing over the chances of being hit by a car while crossing the road. The chances are low yes. So if someone was completely obsessed with looking for cars so they dont get hit it would be a little foolish. If someone were to tell everyone that they are wasting their time looking both ways and worrying so much and that they never looked before crossing. That would be equally as foolish. Get what I am saying?
Breaking news 4 kids went on vaccation and got sick. Sorry I am still in scoff mode.
I dont know, I posted that the kids went to Cancun and they were expected to have it. You responded that gets went on vacation and got sick so you were still in scoff mode. Pretty much sounds like you were saying they probably didnt have it and thats why you were scoffing at the story. I could be reading into it too much though. Maybe you just were just saying that they had a mild case. Thats not how it reads though.
I didn't say what they were sick with, I was just implying that 4 kids with a diarrhea and a cough is not a newsworthy event unless they are REALLY sick. As it stands they have the flu, they got in on vacation, and who cares there is no reason to suspect the Miss Piggy flu is any worse than standard flu. I mean really 90 people have a mild flu in the US, what kind of headline is that? That is why all we here now is the Miss Piggy flu of death stories it just plays better. At this point I am saying don't bother to look both ways when you cross your driveway at night, not the road.
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so far I know of a lot more people who got the bonnaflu in 07, than have swine flu nationwide.
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Like I said before the amount of people that get sick and or die from something else should have nothing to do with this. How many people die of chickenpox every year? How many people die of pneumonia?(I personally know 2 people under 27 that died of that) How many die from choking on a hotdog? How many die from carbon monoxide poisoning?
None of that should mean anything when discussing Miss Piggy flu, or car crashes for that matter. You are using the same sensationalism to sell your point of view that the news is. So 40,000 people die from the standard flu every year, I guess who gives a sh!t about the people that die from this flu then right?
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Never really said it causes harm. I am saying that being completely dismissive is pretty much no different than being completely alarmist.
Its like arguing over the chances of being hit by a car while crossing the road. The chances are low yes. So if someone was completely obsessed with looking for cars so they dont get hit it would be a little foolish. If someone were to tell everyone that they are wasting their time looking both ways and worrying so much and that they never looked before crossing. That would be equally as foolish. Get what I am saying?
In your car example, there's something we can do to keep from getting hit, so telling people not to look both ways is indeed foolish.
Is there something we can do about swine flu besides wash our hands and go to the doc if we feel sick? And more to the point, is there anything we can do to keep it from cancelling Roo?
If not, the analogy to crossing the street doesn't really work.
Like I said before the amount of people that get sick and or die from something else should have nothing to do with this. How many people die of chickenpox every year? How many people die of pneumonia?(I personally know 2 people under 27 that died of that) How many die from choking on a hotdog? How many die from carbon monoxide poisoning?
None of that should mean anything when discussing Miss Piggy flu, or car crashes for that matter. You are using the same sensationalism to sell your point of view that the news is. So 40,000 people die from the standard flu every year, I guess who gives a sh!t about the people that die from this flu then right?
No my point is that 35-40k die from a flu every year it is not like there is usually just one strain, and now we will get double. I am saying the numbers wont change at all, and might go down slightly with this huge scare. Flu deaths happen all the time, and we don't start canceling all public gatherings.
Like I said before the amount of people that get sick and or die from something else should have nothing to do with this. How many people die of chickenpox every year? How many people die of pneumonia?(I personally know 2 people under 27 that died of that) How many die from choking on a hotdog? How many die from carbon monoxide poisoning?
None of that should mean anything when discussing Miss Piggy flu, or car crashes for that matter. You are using the same sensationalism to sell your point of view that the news is. So 40,000 people die from the standard flu every year, I guess who gives a sh!t about the people that die from this flu then right?
I can't believe you would be so dismissive of the people who choke on hotdogs every year. Who gives a sh!t about them, right? Before you answer, consider that your answer will probably be the same as wolfman jess'.
Never really said it causes harm. I am saying that being completely dismissive is pretty much no different than being completely alarmist.
Its like arguing over the chances of being hit by a car while crossing the road. The chances are low yes. So if someone was completely obsessed with looking for cars so they dont get hit it would be a little foolish. If someone were to tell everyone that they are wasting their time looking both ways and worrying so much and that they never looked before crossing. That would be equally as foolish. Get what I am saying?
In your car example, there's something we can do to keep from getting hit, so telling people not to look both ways is indeed foolish.
Is there something we can do about Miss Piggy flu besides wash our hands and go to the doc if we feel sick? And more to the point, is there anything we can do to keep it from cancelling Roo?
If not, the analogy to crossing the street doesn't really work.
Wrong. I am not talking about what to do in order to avoid it. I am talking about taking it seriously in the first place. There is a middle ground between acting like its coming right for us and acting like it is a hoax. Its called being rational.
Really why should I take the flu anymore seriously than I usually do? Is this one special? The point is that we have a taken something that happens all the time, and put this big scary face on it because of the bird flu scares that got people so worked up last time around. So until flu deaths start happening in higher than average numbers I am gonna act like it is just the flu. The flu sucks, but hey so does malaria which kills as many or more every year.
I think it's terrible and highly irrational. If the mods here don't start taking swine flu seriously, then...not sure where to go from there...help me out here.
No my point is that 35-40k die from a flu every year it is not like there is usually just one strain, and now we will get double. I am saying the numbers wont change at all, and might go down slightly with this huge scare. Flu deaths happen all the time, and we don't start canceling all public gatherings.
This is shaping up to be a pandemic, or so we're told. I'm guessing there is a quantitative difference between a flu pandemic by a novel strain and normal seasonal flu. Absent relatively recent medical advances, past flu pandemics have had historic effects on human population.
Among the modern medical advances is recognition that social distancing mitigates the spread of the virus. People are warned to avoid gatherings. We are seeing a few school systems in the US shuttered right now. I don't think a school system shuts down because of hype or hysteria. I think school administrators consult with Depts. of Heath and other state agencies before telling the kids to stay home. Considering that parents have to take off work to stay home with the kids, this is not a decision made lightly.
Government and heath professionals think the current flu situation is categorically different than a seasonal-flu outbreak. Be they small and scattered, cancellations have begun. This is a proven public health measure for dealing with pandemic flu, and government understands closings will be inconvenient and be resented by the public. "What will be the effect on Roo?" is moving beyond alarmist hype slowly into the realm of a legitimate concern. Opinion has no sway, the virus is in control.
Why the name change? I think the government is recommending it be called H1N1. Is this not a serious public health concern? See: www.cdc.gov/swineflu/index.htm
From the World Health Organization (WHO): "30 April 2009 -- From today, WHO will refer to the new influenza virus as influenza A(H1N1)."
From the CDC: "This is a rapidly evolving situation and current guidance and other web content may contain variations in how this new H1N1 virus of Miss Piggy origin is referred to."
Many official public health bulletins refer to H1N1 as "swine flu." If these official documents regarding public safety are filtered by Inforoo to make "swine flu" appear as "miss piggy flu," are they comfortable with that?
A search of the CDC site did not return any incidence of the term "miss piggy flu." If a filter is required for some reason, I think H1N1 is acceptable while discussing this public health situation.
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I give up dude, I am just gonna go home put a blanket over my head and wait for the end.
I have to agree - I work for a VA Medical center and the most they have done is pass out hand sanitizer and tell you to cover your mouth when you cough
^No, no its not, unless you happen to be a cable TV reporter.
Wonder if anyone has thought about the fact that May Sweeps week is right around the corner - oh - reight - I am sure the networks have considered that.
Post by sweetmelissa on Apr 30, 2009 13:02:53 GMT -5
Eh, sensationalism blows. We are so used to things being blown out of proportion that when something that really may be a threat (not saying that Pig Death is/is not) we typically accept it as just another sensationalistic news story. I call it the Chicken Little Effect (CLE).
Could it be that the people working for the CDC are just as influenced as we are by the CLE that they have bought into this Pig Death? Conversely, is this the real threat that we look over that bites us in the rear? Either way, we just don't know yet. I'll be cautious but not freak out.
There has been a case of H1N1 in Memphis, but Beale Street Music Fest is still going on this weekend. I feel that Roo will be ok. I agree that I know more people who had Bonnaflu than have been diagnosed in the US with H1N1.
Sorry if the term Pig Death offended anyone or if it sounds like I'm taking things lightly. That is how I choose to refer to it when not associated with actual cases.
^Really I have not seen any bulletins from these particular agencies stating anything like that
seriously ??? Had a friend tell me that the other day - her husband works for Disney Channel and she was talking about all the networks gearing up for sweeps week