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Post by oleander124 on May 22, 2007 10:31:46 GMT -5
farmerben said:
NO, its not like that at all (though i do appreciate the insult).
How is that an insult? (And yes, it is JUST like that)
If you want to be pagan, fine, you can keep it to yourself until it comes up in conversation. These are divisive issues that are not necessary; people come to roo to be together for a few days and not be confronted with the aspects of normal society that tear people apart.
I’m just gonna say one thing to this quote...
How is a CELEBRATION OF TOGETHERNESS reminding people of a society that is tearing people apart?
This is just silly at this point. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, THEN DON’T GO TO IT.
Post by peacelover on May 22, 2007 10:39:52 GMT -5
For four days in June Bonnaroo becomes a city of 80,000+ people. Not everyone will think the same way, believe the same thing or listen to the same music. We are a city and as such we are diverse BUT we are here to party and have a good time - let's not let any negativity ruin this once a year party.
Athiests want the absence of religion at Bonnaroo, so pretty much they get what they want and life sucks for the people that actually believe in things?
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
"How is a CELEBRATION OF TOGETHERNESS reminding people of a society that is tearing people apart?"
because this "ceremony of togetherness" is only for pagens. Not everybody.
I'm sure they would allow anyone to participate...just as most churches allow anyone to worship with them.
but I don't want to be a pagen OR a christian. So I guess I'm shut out of THAT "togetherness". That's OK tho, I'm coming to TN to be with 80,000 of my best friends that's all the togetherness I need, but thanks for the offer.
Post by oleander124 on May 22, 2007 10:43:16 GMT -5
alyroo said:
oleander124 said:
I'm sure they would allow anyone to participate...just as most churches allow anyone to worship with them.
but I don't want to be a pagen OR a christian. So I guess I'm shut out of THAT "togetherness". That's OK tho, I'm coming to TN to be with 80,000 of my best friends that's all the togetherness I need, but thanks for the offer.
I wasn't saying you had to be only pagan or christian. jeesh.
but I don't want to be a pagen OR a christian. So I guess I'm shut out of THAT "togetherness". That's OK tho, I'm coming to TN to be with 80,000 of my best friends that's all the togetherness I need, but thanks for the offer.
I wasn't saying you had to be only pagan or christian.
why would I want to "worship" with people who don't believe in things I do? and why would they want to "worship" with me, if not to "share" their beliefs.
Post by oleander124 on May 22, 2007 10:49:53 GMT -5
alyroo said:
why would I want to "worship" with people who don't believe in things I do? and why would they want to "worship" with me, if not to "share" their beliefs.
if you weren't going to celebrate with them, then why would you care?
Athiests want the absence of religion at Bonnaroo, so pretty much they get what they want and life sucks for the people that actually believe in things?
I think the Atheists probably just wanna party to some good tunes at Bonnaroo.
But if you'd like, we can have a Poor Christian white Guy party around the garden I've planted in the dead horse.
why would I want to "worship" with people who don't believe in things I do? and why would they want to "worship" with me, if not to "share" their beliefs.
if you weren't going to celebrate with them, then why would you care?
I don't. You asked the question why it was devisive. I answered it.
Trying to get back to being on-topic.... Religious groups of various types have met up at bonnaroos in the past. I believe one group (bonnajew) was even interviewed on one of the dvds. Bonnaroo is a great opportunity to come together and experience music, but also each other. I say good-for-you to anyone trying to find those of a like mind for their interests - be that a drum circle, mud bath, shabbat, pagan ritual, or anything else.
Post by blazinhazen on May 22, 2007 10:53:57 GMT -5
i'm an atheist...and therefore kinda a member of a minority religion (if lack of religion counts) and i support all others who participate/practice minority religions. i say...pagens of bonnaroo unite!!! folks from minority religions need/want to belong to a like-minded communities...acceptance is hard to find with all the small-minded & uninformed out there who feel the need to make fun of/fear people because they have a "unorthodox" philosophy. i'm sure that you'll find other pagens at roo.
Post by oleander124 on May 22, 2007 10:55:45 GMT -5
alyroo said:
I don't. You asked the question why it was devisive. I answered it.
No. I said that a celebration of togetherness is not shutting anyone out. If you WANTED to celebrate with them, then I'm sure they wouldn't say no to you. If you DON'T want to celebrate with them, then just don't. It's as simple as that.
And, to this quote
and why would they want to "worship" with me, if not to "share" their beliefs.
I'm sure they would want anyone who wanted to worship with them to come and share with them. Why would they want "non-pagans" to not be at a celebration of TOGETHERNESS?
Post by peacelover on May 22, 2007 11:00:09 GMT -5
Alyroo: Karma - let's just party for 4 days with friends. Not all my friends feel the same way I do about things - some are religious, some are conservative and some are even Republican - but they're still my friends. We tend to put our differneces aside when it comes to parties.
I don't. You asked the question why it was devisive. I answered it.
No. I said that a celebration of togetherness is not shutting anyone out. If you WANTED to celebrate with them, then I'm sure they wouldn't say no to you. If you DON'T want to celebrate with them, then just don't. It's as simple as that.
And, to this quote
and why would they want to "worship" with me, if not to "share" their beliefs.
I'm sure they would want anyone who wanted to worship with them to come and share with them. Why would they want "non-pagans" to not be at a celebration of TOGETHERNESS?
Yes you did ask that question...
I quote: How is a CELEBRATION OF TOGETHERNESS reminding people of a society that is tearing people apart?
It's worship of a belief, sharing those beliefs is a prerequisite for "worshipping", now if it's an invitation to observe that's different.
I understand the concept of togetherness, it's not neccessary to USE ALL CAPS EVERYTIME YOU TYPE IT.
Post by blazinhazen on May 22, 2007 11:07:32 GMT -5
fenian34 said:
Athiests want the absence of religion at Bonnaroo, so pretty much they get what they want and life sucks for the people that actually believe in things?
i'm an atheist and i don't want an "absence of religion". are you an atheist?
Post by oleander124 on May 22, 2007 11:09:00 GMT -5
alyroo said:
It's worship of a belief, sharing those beliefs is a prerequisite for "worshipping", now if it's an invitation to observe that's different.
I understand the concept of togetherness, it's not neccessary to USE ALL CAPS EVERYTIME YOU TYPE IT.
WORHSHIP was a word that was brought in late in the game and was the wrong word on my part. He/she wanted people to CELEBRATE. That's different than WORSHIPPING.
Athiests want the absence of religion at Bonnaroo, so pretty much they get what they want and life sucks for the people that actually believe in things?
i'm an atheist and i don't want an "absence of religion". are you an atheist?
No I was inferring that based on statements people made.
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
Post by oleander124 on May 22, 2007 11:11:30 GMT -5
alyroo said:
Yes you did ask that question...
I quote: How is a CELEBRATION OF TOGETHERNESS reminding people of a society that is tearing people apart?
Listen (or read)...I asked why a celebration of togetherness is a reminder of a society that is tearing people apart, not why the ceremony is devisive.
It's an oxymoron to say that a celebration of togetherness is devisive.