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ok im at work and dont really have time to thoroughly defend all of strum's accusations at this point.
i will say, considering hippie was on the gallows ( i was literally writing her death story for kel when jenkzoo came out) so kel left voting open. why would a mafia comprised of me and jenkazoo (and higgi? you say) draw all this attention to ourselves as yet another townsperson died. we could have let hippie die. it would have been 4 dead townspeople and zero dead mafia in this scenario (using your assumptions). why would we quack that up with some elaborate scheme. strum is the one who is in a desperate spot, so all of his conspiracy theories should be the ones that are suspicous.
this.
And I believe Jen to the fullest. I was convinced of hippie's innocence BUT now that she is effing BFF's with the known mafia, strum, I am awfully suspicious once again. HIGHLY suspicious.
I am sticking with my vote for STrum this round and with fair warning, will commence the Hippie campaign next round. If I survive for saying that.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 13:09:12 GMT -5
it's a good thing you actually read my posts
strum and i have been the only people posting any kind of reasons for our voting/accusations. all you do is say i look suspicious. you have no evidence whatsoever that i'm guilty. in fact, you've COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED YOURSELF in saying that you believe jen to the fullest, yet think i'm guilty...even though jen said herself i was innocent. if she's wrong about me, that would make her wrong about you.
so, maybe you should rethink your bunk strategy there, champ.
Haha isn't it so annoying when you write something and nobody seems to read or acknowledge it? Damn you lazy bastids!!
in fact, you've COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED YOURSELF in saying that you believe jen to the fullest, yet think i'm guilty...even though jen said herself i was innocent.
Thanks for saving me from pointing that out myself, as I was just about to do so
And yeah, we'd pretty much be the dumbest mafia pairing in the history of mafia to be the only two people discussing my defense!
Strum voted Higgi early on so I would imagine that Higgi = innocent.
contradictory my ass yo, she never fuckin said she KNOWS your innocent she only said she THINKS, so maybe you should get your story straight.. Cuz I certainly aint listening to your garbage because someone THOUGHT you might be innocent.
ANd the fact that you tried to use that as an alibi makes it even more evident that you're lying. She also said that she imagined that I was innocent too, but I haven't used that now have I?! No, and why? Cuz it's all hearsay.
ALSO, she said she THOUHT Roo was innocent along with you, but now you are trying to subliminally convince everyone he is guilty through your and Strum's conversation.. I think you just busted yourself..
Post by strumntheguitar on Aug 13, 2009 13:38:44 GMT -5
Thanks, Higgi, for making me go back and reread some posts, where I found this bit of conversation. Yet another perfect example of Roo and Jen collaborating and being completely confident in each other, beyond what could possibly be concluded just from what was laid out in the thread.
Here we go. This happened immediately after Jen came out as "inspector" and Wolf switched his vote to HGH and then proceeded to apologize for not realizing HGH's guilt:
And sorry but I really didn't see anything solid saying HGH was mafia. I feel like a jackass MAFIOSO.
The reason I find this most suspicious is because Wolf was the person Jen claimed she was going to ask about that night. I'm willing to bet with 100% confidence that she would have come back the next day saying he was guilty. In fact, that just goes to further support my suggestion of the mafia offing one of their own, Jen, because it goes on to also make Wolf appear guilty. Wolf was also one of the first people to accuse Roo of acting suspicious.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Aug 13, 2009 13:50:52 GMT -5
I don't fully believe jen or anything. Your theories half make sense. But I still don't get the point of why roo, jen, and whomever(higgi?) would draw attention to themselves like that. But then again I half believe you just based on what Roo did. But there is no point in changing my vote because it would take me, hippie, and someone else to vote with you. I would like to see someone else agree with you besides hippie. Wolf>>>null And I read all your posts bt dubs.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 13:57:05 GMT -5
ok, it's sealed. i switch my vote to higgi. he has done nothing but go after me since the game started, and tried taking everything i said out of context, and now he's doing it again. i think it's because he's mafia and knows that me calling him out is going to send him up the river eventually since i'm one of the veteran players, and people might be more apt to believe me.
regardless of whether jen said she THOUGHT i was innocent, she said the SAME THING about YOU. and you said you believe her to the fullest. so, yes, you ARE contradicting yourself. and it was a mighty bad save i might add.
Post by strumntheguitar on Aug 13, 2009 14:04:47 GMT -5
I see what you mean with Higgi appearing guilty, but I'm not completely convinced. I know for a fact Roocon has to be mafia since Jen is. I don't know if Higgi would jump to try and debunk my theory as opposed to just sitting back while the main person I am accusing of is Rooconteur. But then again, Rooconteur did say he was on his phone and at work and couldn't write much, so maybe Higgi felt the need to step in to try and further discredit me?
I dunno, I'd really feel safer voting for Roocon this round and going after Higgi next, but clearly if there's enough support voting for Higgi I'd change my vote, if nothing than just for self preservation.
Hippie, do you really think Roocon, Higgi, and Jen would be the mafia trio? I'll have to go back and really look and see if there's anything to link them all together. I do remember Higgi saying he was skeptical of Roocon, but instead kept his vote for you since if roocon was guilty then you'd have to be as well. He had me fooled, cause at the time that did make sense to me... but maybe it was a cover??
did Jen say this? NO she didnt... So who is taking words out of context.
You're grasping at straws, I HAVE been after you all game and why? Because you've continually given me reason to believe you are guilty. I quoted each and every post you've written that has supported my thoughts, I haven't taken any words out of context.
vote me too, good luck. As a sidenote, you haven't given ANY reasons let along A reason for anyone to believe I am guilty. No evidence besides using my past history as a crutch as well as your super, uber defensiveness for my votes on you.
Even when I voted you saying I just wanted your guitar, it was a complete joke, I figured the game was over at that point because Jen came out and stated what was up, but you took it as an opportunity to try and EXPOSE me to the rest of the game, which I believe was done to take the heat off of YOU.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 14:09:04 GMT -5
well, i'm more convinced of higgi at this point because his repeated accusations of me are getting old, and this most recent contradiction in believing jen COMPELTELY, but then saying i'm still guilty is just the final straw for me. i know i'm innocent, and i'm not ok with keeping around someone so staunchly ready to vote off a townie. i'll be fine with giving my vote to roo next round, but right now i'm going with higgi.
did Jen say this? NO she didnt... So who is taking words out of context.
You're grasping at straws, I HAVE been after you all game and why? Because you've continually given me reason to believe you are guilty. I quoted each and every post you've written that has supported my thoughts, I haven't taken any words out of context.
vote me too, good luck. As a sidenote, you haven't given ANY reasons let along A reason for anyone to believe I am guilty. No evidence besides using my past history as a crutch as well as your super, uber defensiveness for my votes on you.
Even when I voted you saying I just wanted your guitar, it was a complete joke, I figured the game was over at that point because Jen came out and stated what was up, but you took it as an opportunity to try and EXPOSE me to the rest of the game, which I believe was done to take the heat off of YOU.
um, this just proves you aren't reading a single thing i've written. i've more than explained ALL of my reasoning, and it goes past your history in the game of mafia. you first take two simple sentences and expect it to prove my guilt. then you say you believe the inspector who said the same things about both of us PROBABLY being innocent, but still say i'm guilty.
so, i'm tired of sounding like a broken record since you're obviously not paying attention anyway. YOU are the one who has no evidence. i called you out on your "joke" vote for me because jen had already come out as inspector and outed two mafia, and yet you still weren't ready to vote for them. joke or not, it looks guilty as hell.
you can think whatever you want mr. mafia, but i'm not falling for your rouse. you HAVE proved in the past that you're good at manipulating people, and that's all you're trying to do now. my guess is it's because i've named all mafia, and you're scared of losing.
regardless of whether jen said she THOUGHT i was innocent, she said the SAME THING about YOU. and you said you believe her to the fullest. so, yes, you ARE contradicting yourself. and it was a mighty bad save i might add.
hippie > higgi
Whatttt? This makes no sense. I didn't contradict anything. I believe Jen to the fullest as in YES she is the inspector, YES she said for 100 percent that HGH and STrum were guilty, YEs I believe that. I don't believe any of her THOUGHTS, as those are worth next to nothing in this game.
and it's not regardless, because of what Jen thought, because I NEVER put words in her mouth as you did. I never claimed that JEN SAID I WAS INNOCENT..
A couple pages back, a few of you were discussing the strategic benefits of an Inspector not voting their given Mafia name during Day One. I, for one, think this strategy is bullshit.
I don't think most Mafia use their first whack to kill someone who directly voted for them... that puts Townspeople on their trail too early in the game. I think the blowback from Mafia whacking someone who voted for them in the first vote of the game is too incriminating. I think it's much easier for the Mafia to steer a potential Inspector into the Day One run-off vote than it is to whack them during Night One.
I'm going to confess, when I first received the Inspector role, I sought advice from a couple of veterans. I think the most important piece of advice I received came from Steveternal, who told me the most important thing is to make sure you are on the record voting for your Mafia name early. I followed that advice and see where Steve was coming from on that.
In fact, I'd be pleasantly pleased if everyone agreed to vote for their Mafia name in the event they are Inspector... I think it'd be doing everyone a favor.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 14:21:08 GMT -5
kdogg...seriously...YOU ARE NOT PLAYING. stop acting like you are. if you wanted to play you should have, but stop interjecting theories, strategies, and whatever else. it's not fair since you're not part of the game. i like you, dude, and i wish you HAD played. but you're really overstepping the bounds here, and it's pissing me off. PLEASE stop "playing" the game.
P.S. the theory about the inspector not voting for the name given is NOT bullhonkey. i was specifically voted off last round in the first night because i voted for bacon randomly(who ended up being mafia), and they thought i was inspector because i voted for him. so, you're wrong.
you can think whatever you want mr. mafia, but i'm not falling for your rouse. you HAVE proved in the past that you're good at manipulating people, and that's all you're trying to do now. my guess is it's because i've named all mafia, and you're scared of losing.
i keep my vote for higgi
I thought it was obvious enough that folks would see I was joking around, and I knew it looked overly suspicious, and that is exactly why I didn't foresee any problems with a little joke. But I guess I failed to realize that you would use it against me as you don't have anything else to go on.
Besides your next paragraph, which just desperately tries to use my history against me.. again.
I am still keeping my vote for strum, I will vote Hippie next round.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 14:25:50 GMT -5
yes, it IS against the rules to continually talk about the game you aren't playing. it's an outside influence, and it's unfair IMO. think what you want, but i've already spoken to kel about it. the decision is up to her, but i'm about done with it all together and you can finish the game without me. i'm tired of drama in these games, and i'm having fun with this one. i don't want it effed up or influenced by someone not playing.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 14:26:57 GMT -5
do what you want, higgi, but you're wrong. and you're also mafia. even if you happen not to be, you can go ahead and eat crow at the end of the game when you realize how retardedly wrong you are.
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 13, 2009 14:28:45 GMT -5
sorry for the triple post, but my mafia guesses: jen, higgi, wolf. i am innocent, and i'm tired of all of you being so easily duped by someone like higgi. follow him like sheep if you all want to die, but why the FCUK would i post so much, and WITH another mafia member, if i was innocent? sorry, but i'm better at this game than that.
HIGGI IS LYING. vote for him or vote off an innocent. your choice. i'm done.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Aug 13, 2009 14:31:13 GMT -5
Hahaha because it would clearly be jen, higgi, and me. Anyway you have made yourself look extremely guilty. I am not "duped" by anything higgi is saying. I could have not read his statements at all and thought you looked guilty as sin.
Hahaha because it would clearly be jen, higgi, and me. Anyway you have made yourself look extremely guilty. I am not "duped" by anything higgi is saying. I could have not read his statements at all and thought you looked guilty as sin.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Aug 13, 2009 14:32:56 GMT -5
And that should do strumn sorry didn't see your post. I half believe you so I don't really want to vote you, hence then null. But hippie in the mean time made herself look guilty.
Post by strumntheguitar on Aug 13, 2009 14:34:33 GMT -5
Why are both you guys (hippie & wolf) suddenly not taking into account Roocon? There's no denying the fact that if Jen was guilty that Roocon has to be as well.
If I had to pick a trio right now, it'd be Roocon, Jen, and Higgi.
Here's what I was going to post until I saw the recent developments with Wolf's post, so keep that in mind:
As for this whole Hippie vs Higgi rehash... it's all rather interesting. I feel like there's no way two innocent townpersons could possibly be disputing with each other the entire game so far. One of them has to be guilty it seems, right? I really want to keep my vote with Rooconteur this round because I'm so sure he's guilty, but for now I'm gonna have to switch my vote it seems. I can't keep my vote for Roocon when I have so many votes against me and there are votes for other people. That'd just be silly and essentially suicide.
I can't be positive of Hippie's innocence because that's the nature of the beast which is Mafia, but I do know she's one of the few who took the time to read my posts and think about it and have discussion regarding what the mafia could be up to, so I have no choice but to take her side on this for now.
strum >>> Roocon >>> Higgi
I still would prefer to vote Roocon though since I'm more positive of his status than Higgi
And that should do strumn sorry didn't see your post. I half believe you so I don't really want to vote you, hence then null. But hippie in the mean time made herself look guilty.
that should do? what should do? saying you just agree with higgi? that only makes you look more guilty IMO. again, actually explaining something would be helpful.
