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I'm not following you on this point. Can you explain?
Yes I can thanks for asking. In fact in writing this post I realized it is not 100% Nate its between you (NTRT) and Nate. Right now my money is on Nate. This is done with the stipulation EAP and HGH are mafia. I am listing each person I think is innocent and why I don't think a person is mafia.
Bacon(duh): voted for EAP and Jen----voted for by EAP HGH: voted for EAP and Jen -------voted for by EAP and Jen wolf: voted for Jen ---- voted for by Jen kdogg:voted for Jen----voted for by Jen kelaroo: voted for Jen Higgi: voted for Jen strumdaddy: killed by mafia----voted for Jen -----voted for by Jen and EAP
That leaves Nate and NTRT.
so HGH and i are mafia??? or jen and i are mafia??? looks like you are getting a little mixed up buddy.
also, you seem to conveniently forget that you voted for strum TOO.
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Post by nitetimeritetime on Sept 3, 2009 17:38:04 GMT -5
Ok bacon, you're saying that HGH is mafia, and that makes me look guilty? You realize I voted for her -- and only for her -- in every runoff last round, right?
Sorry about that EAP I meant Jen and fixed it on the original. And I know i voted for Strum but I didn't kill him the mafia did.
NTRT basically the reason its between you and Nate is because you are the only two that I can't find I good reason to believe your innocent. Everybody else has 1 or more reasons to believe they are innocent. Process of elimination.
I think we might be getting too far ahead of ourselves here. Maybe instead we ought to be focusing on who wanted Strum gone. After all, we DO know somebody wanted Strum gone. There's got to be a vote trail implicating someone.
Sorry about that EAP I meant Jen and fixed it on the original. And I know i voted for Strum but I didn't kill him the mafia did.
NTRT basically the reason its between you and Nate is because you are the only two that I can't find I good reason to believe your innocent. Everybody else has 1 or more reasons to believe they are innocent. Process of elimination.
Ah, so you don't think HGH is guilty. That makes more sense. Why are you having so much trouble keeping your story straight?
So from what I can tell, you are saying the people on your list are innocent because EAP or Jen voted for them at some point? I don't buy it. I'm not even convinced that either of them are/were mafia (although they may be).
I think the suspicious vote you cast for strum early on, added to the fact that you can't keep your mafia suspects straight, makes you a prime candidate.
Sorry about that EAP I meant Jen and fixed it on the original. And I know i voted for Strum but I didn't kill him the mafia did.
NTRT basically the reason its between you and Nate is because you are the only two that I can't find I good reason to believe your innocent. Everybody else has 1 or more reasons to believe they are innocent. Process of elimination.
Ah, so you don't think HGH is guilty. That makes more sense. Why are you having so much trouble keeping your story straight?
So from what I can tell, you are saying the people on your list are innocent because EAP or Jen voted for them at some point? I don't buy it. I'm not even convinced that either of them are/were mafia (although they may be).
I think the suspicious vote you cast for strum early on, added to the fact that you can't keep your mafia suspects straight, makes you a prime candidate.
I'm switching my vote back:
ntrt >> bacon >> null >> bacon
How many times do I need to say my vote for Strum was completely random in terms of the game. I did it because we had been arguing over the inspector rule and I figured just for kicks I would vote him. I was suspicious of him at some points but latter on I decided he was innocent. Thats how the first round works for me at least, narrowing down the suspicious people. Me saying HGH in that post was an accident, im tired I went to bed last night at 2 and woke up at 6. I apologize I made a mistakethat doesn't make me Mafia.
Sorry about that EAP I meant Jen and fixed it on the original. And I know i voted for Strum but I didn't kill him the mafia did.
NTRT basically the reason its between you and Nate is because you are the only two that I can't find I good reason to believe your innocent. Everybody else has 1 or more reasons to believe they are innocent. Process of elimination.
So from what I can tell, you are saying the people on your list are innocent because EAP or Jen voted for them at some point? I don't buy it. I'm not even convinced that either of them are/were mafia (although they may be).
Plus, this is the second time this has happened already: if we apply your theory to everybody, it makes you look guilty -- after all neither EAP nor Jen voted for you either.
Yes but I voted for Jen and EAP. My vote literally killed Jen. Now EAP is voting me and I am voting her.
Edit: It's important to realize that my list looks at not only if Jen or EAP voted for the person but if the person voted for Jen and EAP
Here is the list again the first thing is the persons voting record the thing after the ------- is if EAP or Jen voted for the person. Not only does being voted by a mafia member make you look clean being voting for a mafia member does too.
Bacon(duh): voted for EAP and Jen----voted for by EAP HGH: voted for EAP and Jen -------voted for by EAP and Jen wolf: voted for Jen ---- voted for by Jen kdogg:voted for Jen----voted for by Jen kelaroo: voted for Jen Higgi: voted for Jen strumdaddy: killed by mafia----voted for Jen -----voted for by Jen and EAP
Edit: It's important to realize that my list looks at not only if Jen or EAP voted for the person but if the person voted for Jen and EAP
But it doesn't take into account the context of those votes. That's why I don't buy it.
True and I would encourage you to go through and read the context of every vote over again. I did when I was formulating my theory on who I though mafia #3 was I kinda figured no one would read it if I quoted 80% of the thread in one post.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Sept 3, 2009 18:27:16 GMT -5
Ok, let's look at the context of the vote that you say makes you innocent: EAP's vote for you. The context: you voted for her first, then she voted for you. Her vote doesn't make you innocent; it just means you voted for her first.
And if you look at several of the votes for EAP or Jen throughout the first round, many of them appear to be random votes. For example, HGH voted for EAP first. So? They always do that. Then HGH voted for Jen in the runoff -- instead of herself. Well yeah, of course she did. HGH's votes are just one example of your theory not accounting for context.
Yes but voting for a mafia member and having a mafia member vote for you greatly decreases the chances that someone is mafia. And like I said before the real evidence I am innocent is I killed Jen.
Yes but voting for a mafia member and having a mafia member vote for you greatly decreases the chances that someone is mafia. And like I said before the real evidence I am innocent is I killed Jen.
this is not "real evidence" because you do not know 100% that jen was mafia.
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Post by nitetimeritetime on Sept 3, 2009 18:40:21 GMT -5
Well, that's only evidence if Jen was mafia, and that's not a certainty. edit: eap beat me to it.
Let's say strum was on to something before he was whacked. The people he was suspicious of were HGH, kdogg, bacon, and EAP. If he's right, and HGH is mafia, then your vote for Jen, which saved HGH, makes you look even more suspicious. And hey, you're on that list too.
Yes but voting for a mafia member and having a mafia member vote for you greatly decreases the chances that someone is mafia. And like I said before the real evidence I am innocent is I killed Jen.
this is not "real evidence" because you do not know 100% that jen was mafia.
Ya unfortunately as a townsperson I am only 100% about one person: me. Everything else is formulated theories. Obviously I am not going to get you to admit you are mafia EAP or NTRT. If you have some new problem or question be sure to mention it but I am getting tired of saying the same things over and over again. And Yes NTRT I have basically decided you are Mafia #3.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Sept 3, 2009 18:49:47 GMT -5
But I should say that I don't really think HGH and bacon are working together, because that doesn't add up either. Your voting makes me think that one of you may be mafia, but definitely not both of you.
To be honest, I'm not completely convinced that strum was telling the truth. If he knew he wouldn't be able to play much anyway, why not stage a fake death and right before it cast suspicion as far away from his two mafia pals as possible.
That would mean HGH, kdogg, bacon, and EAP are all probably innocent. Jen would have to be innocent too, because killing off two mafia in the first round would be way too risky for them.
That leaves: me, higgi, nate, kel, and wolf. If strum was mafia, then two of these other people are too. And it ain't me.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Sept 3, 2009 18:53:20 GMT -5
So looking back at this, I can only say that bacon has been throwing out a lot of theories, but not that he's guilty because they don't all work.
If I'm right, and strum offed himself, then that leaves higgi, nate, kel, and wolf (and me). I already voiced suspicion of higgi and nate earlier in this round, and since nate has a vote, I'm switching:
And Yes NTRT I have basically decided you are Mafia #3.
Care to explain what makes me look suspicious? And no, my vote for HGH instead of EAP or Jen, when nobody had reason to suspect EAP or Jen, doesn't even come close to suspicious.
So basically you are saying Strum and Nate are mafia who is number 3. It has to be Higgi or Wolf right? I don't buy it at all. You are trying to get me and other off course by finding something we might agree on(Nate being guilty). I can't see any other reason why you would try to do this other than to try to confuse the town and buy some time for the mafia.
And Yes NTRT I have basically decided you are Mafia #3.
Care to explain what makes me look suspicious? And no, my vote for HGH instead of EAP or Jen, when nobody had reason to suspect EAP or Jen, doesn't even come close to suspicious.
So I have to point why you are guilty but I am not allowed to use your voting record or the records of those who have voted for you? Im sorry but that's how I play. When your not inspector voting record is just about all you've got.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Sept 3, 2009 19:06:38 GMT -5
Sure, you can use my voting record, but we've only had one round. I stuck with my vote throughout the runoffs because it was the first round, and we had no real reason to suspect anybody. So use the voting record: what looks suspicious? We don't know that Jen was guilty, and so far you're the only one who seems convinced she was, so not voting for her just means I didn't know for sure that she was mafia.
Sorry for the triple post but there is something else I need to add. The reason Strum decided to play was we agreed that Roo would enforce the rule that voting would not close on the weekend unless every vote was in. Strum knew that and knew he could nullify his vote and we would wait for him until Monday or Tuesday since Monday is labor. There was no reason for him to kill himself.
Sure, you can use my voting record, but we've only had one round. I stuck with my vote throughout the runoffs because it was the first round, and we had no real reason to suspect anybody. So use the voting record: what looks suspicious? We don't know that Jen was guilty, and so far you're the only one who seems convinced she was, so not voting for her just means I didn't know for sure that she was mafia.
I kind of doubt that I am the only one who thinks that Jen is guilty. Why don't we give everybody a chance to come by and catch up and make their own decision. If we keep going like this there is going to be 4 pages of us just going back and forth. Its not like anybody would actually read all of it anyway.
So basically you are saying Strum and Nate are mafia who is number 3. It has to be Higgi or Wolf right?
No it could also be kel or me, if my theory about strum is right.
And my theory may not be right. If strum was telling the truth and he was right, then that makes HGH, kdogg, you (bacon), and EAP the most likely suspects. Like I said, I don't think you and HGH are working together, so at least one of you is definitely not mafia. I don't have any theories on kdogg or EAP yet, though kdogg did seem really eager to get rid of strum.
You are trying to get me and other off course by finding something we might agree on(Nate being guilty).
Did I ask you to change your vote and vote for Nate? Did I ask anybody to? I'm just trying to vote for the person I find the most suspicious at this point.
