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I probably agree though I do enjoy the thought of teams paying for not taking the regular season seriously.
how is this related to what I said?
One of the suns, warriors or lakers will pay for not taking the regular season seriously enough because of the existence of conferences. If there were no Conferences, all of them would be fine and there would be no drama.
One of the suns, warriors or lakers will pay for not taking the regular season seriously enough because of the existence of conferences. If there were no Conferences, all of them would be fine and there would be no drama.
I don’t rly think any of those teams is not taking the season seriously. They’re just flawed and the West is a bloodbath.
One of the suns, warriors or lakers will pay for not taking the regular season seriously enough because of the existence of conferences. If there were no Conferences, all of them would be fine and there would be no drama.
Those teams will pay for being located on the West coast! They should have tried harder, even though they all currently have better records than the East 8th seed!
One of the suns, warriors or lakers will pay for not taking the regular season seriously enough because of the existence of conferences. If there were no Conferences, all of them would be fine and there would be no drama.
Those teams will pay for being located on the West coast! They should have tried harder, even though they all currently have better records than the East 8th seed!
that’s exactly my point. The conferences added drama to the regular season.
Those teams will pay for being located on the West coast! They should have tried harderyou , even though they all currently have better records than the East 8th seed!
that’s exactly my point. The conferences added drama to the regular season.
I'd rather have a more competitive playoffs and be real so would you.
I don't get the impression that you follow the NBA regular season super closely. No offense.
that’s exactly my point. The conferences added drama to the regular season.
I'd rather have a more competitive playoffs and be real so would you.
I don't get the impression that you follow the NBA regular season super closely. No offense.
Remember my first response to Tristan was that I probably agree with him. I just mentioned that I happen to enjoy that the west is so interesting right now in the regular season, partly due to the existence of conferences. And now we are down that rabbit hole which I'm fine with running out.
No - I don't follow the reg season closely because it is so bad. Which is one of the main problems (among many) with the league. The fact that I don't care about my second favorite sport for large swaths of time is wild. So to me, I'd like them to find ways to add drama / reasons to watch the regular season. I think the play-in was an amazing move for that. The conferences kinda added a small extra layer this year which is interesting, but the existence of conferences doesn't add a ton consistently, so I wouldn't care if they were removed.
I'm not sure about your competitive playoffs point. What's happened in the West should in theory create a more competitive and interesting first round at least. I do not want the league to further be played out on paper than it already is. But one more time, I don't care much about this and it might be satisfying for the rightful 18th-20th seeds to get their crack at the Play-In.
Now what I would be down for is NFL style divisions to really piss people off and make shit interesting throughout the year. That would be sick.
Yeah. I'm sort of confused about what you're arguing. You agreed with Tristan and then argued with him. The play-in/having more teams in the playoffs is good, and the best twenty teams should be in the tournament? We agree?
You made a point about the Lakers/Suns/Warriors not trying, which is not what happened, to argue something you didn't even mean to say? Which is it? Are conferences good because of load management that didn't really happen? Or are conferences bad because those three teams (plus the Rockets) are probably better than the Hawks?
A more competitive playoffs would include the best 20 teams, rather than the best 18 teams and two ok teams from an inferior conference.
The NBA regular season is enjoyable for NBA fans, afaik. Load management is some oldhead shit to complain about.
Yeah. I'm sort of confused about what you're arguing. You agreed with Tristan and then argued with him. The play-in/having more teams in the playoffs is good, and the best twenty teams should be in the tournament? We agree?
You made a point about the Lakers/Suns/Warriors not trying, which is not what happened, to argue something you didn't even mean to say? Which is it? Are conferences good because of load management that didn't actually happen? Or are conferences bad because those three teams (plus the Rockets) are probably better than the Hawks?
Ok I can clarify.
In my ideal world, the league structure would go further to make the standings and regular season less fair. Similar to the NFL.
But since the NBA conferences usually do so little to impact things, I am fine with getting rid of them because they are basically pointless. If they were more impactful and caused more drama, I would want them. But since they don't do much anyways, they feel pretty random and could be eliminated without me really noticing.
I shouldn't have said the Suns / Lakers thing. I just assumed based on the history of those players that they didn't care about the reg season.
One other side note - I don't think more teams in the playoffs is good. I was actually worried when it was announced that it was too inclusive but didn't think about how it actually makes things more exclusive in a way. As a Magic fan right now, the Play-In does not feel good or like a playoff spot at all. It's very worth not landing at 7 as opposed to 6, and I love that.
A Rockets-Celtics first round series would be so cool. (Co-owners of the longest win streak this year at 11.) We'd win like one game *maybe*. It would be a cool novelty for awhile to see West and East teams play seven-game series, with matchups we haven't gotten to see. Unfortunately, I have a feeling the Rockets may be the canary in the coal mine on this, get fucked this year and be the example of why things should change? I'm sure Fertitia is gonna throw a shitfit.
Best Record (8th seed) Year Team 50-32 09-10 Oklahoma City Thunder 50-32 07-08 Denver Nuggets 49-33 13-14 Dallas Mavericks 48-34 08-09 Utah Jazz 48-34 18-19 Los Angeles Clippers 47-35 17-18 Minnesota Timberwolves 46-36 10-11 Memphis Grizzlies 45-37 12-13 Los Angeles Lakers 45-37 02-03 Memphis Grizzlies 45-37 14-15 New Orleans Pelicans
Best record not to make the playoffs Record Year Team 48-34 07-08 Golden State Warriors 48-34 13-14 Phoenix Suns 47-35 17-18 Denver Nuggets 46-36 08-09 Phoenix Suns 45-37 14-15 Oklahoma City Thunder
there has never been a team in the east that has won 45 games and been an 8 seed, nor missed the playoffs. east is so bad.
more teams in the playoffs is bad. over half the league now makes it which is a joke. im sorry but if you finish in 9th or 10th you have no business getting a chance.
more teams in the playoffs is bad. over half the league now makes it which is a joke. im sorry but if you finish in 9th or 10th you have no business getting a chance.
well the argument for the West having a play in is that historically good teams are left outside looking in while a team like the 76ers made b2b playoffs at 41 and 40 wins in the late 00s
more teams in the playoffs is bad. over half the league now makes it which is a joke. im sorry but if you finish in 9th or 10th you have no business getting a chance.
Those 9 and 10 seeds are in win-now scenarios and if they make or win the Finals from there that's actually awesome.
If any high-seeded teams lose to them, they're frauds.
more teams in the playoffs is bad. over half the league now makes it which is a joke. im sorry but if you finish in 9th or 10th you have no business getting a chance.
well the argument for the West having a play in is that historically good teams are left outside looking in while a team like the 76ers made b2b playoffs at 41 and 40 wins in the late 00s
I don't think the East is really that bad. The only likely playoff teams that might be drawing dead are the Pacers and maybe the Knicks, but if both teams were healthy, they would both be quite dangerous.
