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In a nutshell, I believe Bec almost has to be one of the mafia. It was said her last minute change of heart to save kdogg was very shady, especially after I was basically told I shouldn't have the last vote by two members in this game, one of which was bec, and I voted kdogg.
Now were talkin that Bec wouldn't do something that sloppy, but would it matter if for whatever reason she knew that the mafia was going to kill off one of their own (mentioned several times). I havent played long enough to know all these tips and tricks, but I feel that if we are accusing mafia of killing their own, why is it so unreasonable that Bec would do something like that thinking we would just say its not like Bec to do that? In my opinion, if we honestly think that someone is doing something as radical as killing off a fellow mafia, why aren't we looking for other radical moves too? So I vote for Bec to start things off this round and continue looking into who else looks tied to her, and its been almost an untouched subject since.
Obviously I have said time and time again that BEk's vote change was strange. Also, the fact that Kdogg then died makes me feel like it was a pre-meditated move. IT's enough for me to cast a tentative vote for the weekend.
well, considering this is the first theory we all seem to be able to come to a compromise on, i'll throw my vote in for bek as well. while i don't see her as being that sloppy, mikeD is right in that i can't entertain one drastic theory without entertaining another.
edit: also, if any combo of mafia were going to pull a move like killing one of their own overnight in the first round, it would be bek and kdogg. it's a bold move that i think only a seasoned vet would think to do.
I figured something like this would happen. That's why I think bek and kdogg are working together said that in day one! Her post just proves my point. She doesn't even ? Kdogg being guilty or entertain the idea she just knows he is innocent! Puuuhhhlease. Townspeople we all need to stick together. At this point I think it's safe to say kdogg and bek Are working together. Edited: Because I typed on my cell phone and left out a word. Oopsy!
Moving forward... I changed my vote from kdogg last round because I wanted the inspector to ask about him I felt it in my gut that he was innocent. If I was mafia, why would I change my vote to save him and then kill him overnight? That would be like hanging myself. If I was mafia and kdogg was innocent, then why wouldn't I just keep my mouth shut, keep my vote for him and slide under the radar?
and if i were mafia, why the heck would i have come up with such a radical theory in the first round and stick to it so eagerly? if you wouldn't have done something so sloppy, i certainly wouldn't have. because obviously i'm the best player to ever grace this game ;D ;D
I would like to add that there is NO WAY IN HELL that the mafia would kill off kdogg in the first round if he was one of them, especially since he really wanted to play with indi, he just wouldn't have stood for it. Also, what mafia group would decrease their number in the first round?
you don't know that. so what if he wanted to play with indi? if him being alive was going to jeopardize their numbers early anyway, he would have done it just so he could win. he cares about that just a TINY bit more than being able to just play with someone.
At this point, there is an obvious suspect (hippie) to me and I would quote it but it would take all day so just go read page 9.... it's such BS and a failed attempt at manipulation. I mean, she got mad about kdogg saying he was a townie because she was trying to set him up as a mafia member and it put a kink in her plan. Honestly, I don't think anyone else would even think twice about a player who gets offed by the mafia in the first round alluding to his own innocence a remote violation of the rules. so it is just so clear to me....
^^yup she was mafia that game alongside me. I think kdogg even called her out on that seeming somewhat suspicious which sounds about right since we all know he is the greatest mafia player in the history of inforoo. ;D
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ok, sorry...i'm done.
i sighed, therefore i MUST be guilty?? that is probably the most laughable defense i've ever heard. i sighed. wow. i sighed because when you only have 4 people participating in what should be a 9 person game, it gets a little exhausting having to wait on people to even say one thing. and as most scientists will tell you, a sample of two does not a solid conclusion make. especially when the second sample is from an innocent townsperson. i realize you don't have anything to pin on me, but this is a little silly.
also, I am highly suspicious of indi because he has been so quiet. I believe I also said this last round which would further prove my innocence. However I can confirm he went on a day adventure which may have detoured him from posting.
so, now you're suspicious of someone for not participating, when you yourself have not been participating?
mike, i made a couple long posts myself that went almost completely overlooked. but in the end, we've got to help each other out. and while i agree that just posting "fluff" is counter-productive, you also haven't weighed in since page 8. we don't always need some long explanation on things, but knowing where you stand on other's theories is just as helpful, ya know?
Maybe he hasn't weighed in since page 8 but how can you hold that against him or anyone else? It's been a few of you having personal fights, going around in circles, and posting nonsense? What could anyone who is trying to really play this game have to contribute to that? ???
actually, it's been quite a bit of the 4 of us throwing around our theories to each other and running them into the ground because no one else is participating. the personal fights have been annoying, yes, but have certainly not taken over full pages of this game. continually bringing it up isn't really helping matters either, so maybe everyone should just drop it, no?
Moving forward... I changed my vote from kdogg last round because I wanted the inspector to ask about him I felt it in my gut that he was innocent.
This part doesn't make sense to me. If you think somebody's innocent, why would you want the inspector to waste a guess asking about them? It seems like that's a person you wouldn't want the inspector to ask about if you were trying to learn as many mafia names as possible.
How would this be hanging yourself? I thought hippie laid out a good case for why this would make you look more innocent, not less.
This seems like a good point. Has mafia ever killed one of their own in the first round like this? I don't know -- anyone? It does seem like a ballsy move. You'd have to be really confident in your mafia team's ability to think you could pull something like this off.
Bek, are you just talking about the stuff she said about kdogg's caption under the OMG pic, or is there something else we should also be looking at on page 9?
So now I am to the point where everyone is voting for me. I could change my vote to bacon in hopes of saving myself but at this point, I do not think he is guilty, I have a suspect and it is hippie and I just don't know how no one else even suspects that... remember about how we talked about being suspicious of people w/o votes? How is it that the ones who are the most active today have no votes? Bacon and myself are the only ones who stand by kdogg's innocence and the fact that the mafia would not kill off one of their own on the first day. Bacon, how did rationality land us on the chopping block? oh wait.... I bet the MAFIA prob has something to do with it.
There's something important here, but I'm not quite making the connection yet. I can't tell if this makes sense or not -- need more coffee.
This seems like a good point. Has mafia ever killed one of their own in the first round like this? I don't know -- anyone? It does seem like a ballsy move. [glow=blue,2,300]You'd have to be really confident in your mafia team's ability to think you could pull something like this off.[/glow]
Kdogg and Bek seem like just the type of players to try this.
BEK was hanging with her gfriend listening to her talk about dumb boys, enjoying a beer on the dock. little did she know, a killer was waiting for her.....a killer SHARK.
mafia PM me your kill. inspector PM me your guess.
Finally checking in since my "Better?" post, now that I'm not feeling so about things... would kind of like to explain myself further.
I said nothing in death that I did not already say while alive. I would point out the whens & wheres if I didn't find it to be out of line.
I made the initial post with the pic & comment, then went out to run some errands. I received a text message from EAP. I've cleared my inbox since, so I can't share the exact conversation. In that message, EAP stressed that Hippie was right about my comment. My reply included some choice words. It was then I received the reply from which I quoted. EAP was asking me to change that post, and cited Hippie's PM as an example of what other players thought. I was still plenty about being killed, and not quite receptive to requests to change that post.
I had good reason to toe the line on the particular rule in question. Let's go back to the original post, shall we?
10) AKA The kdogg Rule: There will be no sharing of role PM's inside the thread or outside for the purpose of disclosing your role to another player. This also goes for password sharing. Common sense should be used, no discussion of your roles, except between the mafia, outside the thread- EVER.
You might notice that the rule with my name on it was in bold. I inquired about this.
don't make me eject you before the first round ends
...and after that, the Referee expected me to just politely concede to her requests? I think not. I asked, and I think fairly so, for an explanation behind that formatting decision... and was threatened with ejection for it. I thought that highlighting a rule with a player's name, without explanation, just enhances the aura of suspicion around that player. I know how touchy first rounds can be, though, so I didn't want to push the issue further. EAP had the luxury of not being killed over my pushing that issue - I DID. I'm sure y'all can understand how someone who wound up in the first runoff would be upset under these circumstances, can't you?
So when my time came, and a Referee who had crossed the line on that rule was getting on my case for toeing the line on another rule... that just fueled the . No way in hell was I going to cooperate at that point.
If you're going to purport yourself as the enforcer of and/or stickler for the rules... and I'm talking to both the Referee and players - some more than others - here... make sure it's all rules at all times. I can't help but notice that the rules have been brought up several times during this game, yet NOBODY was in favor of proper execution of the rules when it was ME raising an issue. Just sayin'.
Not trying to influence the game here, just pissing and moaning about the way I was dealt with when I was alive. Aside from that blunder, EAP has been otherwise doing a fine job as Referee.
HIGGI was hanging out, rocking his star wars fanboy outfit. what he didn't realize was that the mafia had sent their best shark assassin to eat HIS FACE OFF.
day 3 has begun.
still shark bait: bacon hippie indi jenkazooty kel mike d ntrt
Post by nitetimeritetime on Aug 10, 2010 22:57:14 GMT -5
I'm about done for the night, but tomorrow I'm going to try to see what higgi's death can tell us. I doubt I'll know a second possible runoff name until I've looked at that.
I'm about done for the night, but tomorrow I'm going to try to see what higgi's death can tell us. I doubt I'll know a second possible runoff name until I've looked at that.
right now, I am most suspicious of Jen and Bacon.
But I will wait to see what you come up with tomorrow.
I hope Mike D. chimes in soon. He seems to have really good points also.
Alrighty folks, sorry I didn't come out earlier, but I felt it was too early and wanted to try to get another name to give us the best chance possible. I'm the inspector. I was given Bacons name to start the game. After all the going back and forth the first day, I guessed kdogg because I thought he was mafia, espicially after the save by Bek. I guessed kdogg the first night and he was mafia, in fact killed by his own. Someone mentioned that only him and bec would kill off one of their own, so I figured bec would be my next guess. I wanted people to be aware of this, but didn't expect her to be voted off.
My next guess today was hippie. I figured that kdogg had been involved in a little schenanagans this game, he was mafia, hippie has done the same, as well as this post
well, considering this is the first theory we all seem to be able to come to a compromise on, i'll throw my vote in for bek as well. while i don't see her as being that sloppy, mikeD is right in that i can't entertain one drastic theory without entertaining another.
edit: also, if any combo of mafia were going to pull a move like killing one of their own overnight in the first round, it would be bek and kdogg. it's a bold move that i think only a seasoned vet would think to do.
hippie >>> bek
I based my second guess on this post, I thought hippie was trying to be too obvious with this acusation so I just asked about her. Hippie is a townie.
I saw several different ties to folks, but I can't put them together like yall can. I thought that hippie was trying to set up Bek, but I was wrong. We have the names of 2 mafia, one of which is dead. I really dont know where to go from here, but we can win this thing Lets take these mofo's out!! edit for a smiley cause I forgot I promised one in every post
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about things... would kind of like to explain myself further.
