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Post by indigrainbow on Aug 3, 2010 16:03:10 GMT -5
that's understandable. i used a coin not to make it seem like there was a 50/50 chance you were mafia, but to illustrate with a simple mental image how flipping a coin a number of times doesnt somehow make it have more sides.
Right on.. I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down...
BUT- I think we are getting off track here. If we collectively feel this is an issue we should revisit I think we should return to it after this round is over, because we are in a runoff now and we have to make the most informed decision we can.
My mistake, I thought WOLF was already lost at this point. I didn't realize it was tied.
But still, had he done anything else but vote for WOLF, it would of BLATANTLY made it look like he was trying to SAVE WOLF.
Does that make sense? That is the general idea I was trying to convey...
Ok, that makes sense. I had to go back over the thread again to make sure I hadn't missed writing down a vote in my notes -- it happens.
LIke you said, if kdogg doesn't vote for wolf, it makes it look like he's trying to save wolf. But I have been thinking during the whole runoff that if he doesn't vote for indi, then it looks like he's trying to save indi -- I think this is the same logic you're using, just in the other direction.
In my notes, I actually have something similar to your long post written down, except I'm reading your #4, #5, and #6 a little differently:
1. Kdogg votes Wolf 2. Wolf votes for Higgi [me] 3. Wolf changes to Kdogg 4. Higgi [me] votes Indi - absolutely no correlation to either Kdogg or Wolf - making no reason for them to both vote me - albeit at different times. [my vote still remains with INDI] 5. Kdogg changes to Higgi [me] 6. Kdogg changes to Wolf - to be on record voting for him, this after I called them out as a possible mafia pair, trying to steer attention away from them and onto me. [higgi] 7. Kdogg goes NULL! - very important to consider, as he didn't want his vote to stand with WOLF because he is going to be 'working' and would most likely be pissed if his mafia buddy was killed while he wasn't there to help save him.
They also have a vote for me [higgi] in common, which strikes me as odd, because I haven't voted either of them, which is another reason I believe Kdogg was steering attention my way and away from him and Wolf.
In #4, you (higgi) voted indi. In #5 kdogg then changes his vote to you (higgi) after you had just voted for indi. In #6, kdogg votes for wolf -- not indi.
The last sentence I quoted could also have said kdogg was steering attention away from him and wolf and indi.
Then when kdogg finalizes his vote, it basically saves indi.
Still, I'm not sure this is enough for me to go on to change my vote -- it just looked so close to what you're saying that I thought I should throw it out there.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Aug 3, 2010 17:19:27 GMT -5
Whoever is suspicious or guilty, it's just nice to be playing a real game again. The last one was only 9 pages in something like a month. This one is already 5 pages in like 6 days. That's more like it.
Ugh. I have no clue what is going on but wanna let y'all know I am working on it. I just logged in and see that there are two three pages for me to read since last night. I am about to read and see what's up and I'll be back. Is there an indi vs. kdogg novel to read?
Post by GratefulHippie on Aug 3, 2010 17:37:53 GMT -5
i know my last post picking apart kdogg's quote was long, but if someone could maybe give me some feedback i'd be grateful. what i wrote makes sense to me, but that doesn't really mean a whole lot sometimes...
I am on page four and am willing to change my INDI vote to get a Kdogg Wolf run-off.....not sure if voting is closed yet but about to finish reading. If voting is still open then my vote is NULL until I catch up. I am working on a post as I read.
EDIT: This post was based on a possibly screwed up vote tally so pay no mind.
I am on page four and am willing to change my INDI vote to get a Kdogg Wolf run-off.....not sure if voting is closed yet but about to finish reading. If voting is till open then my vote is NULL until I catch up. I am working on a post as I read.
Remember Jen if you do that you are basically giving Mike D the deciding vote. He has been very absent this game and have no idea of knowing his role.
Higgi if kdogg and I were working together we could both switch our votes to indi killing him off.
True.. but if you did that we'd DEFINITELY know you were guilty. This way leaves hope that maybe Kdogg can, well, Kdogg us into thinking he is innocent.
This is the exact thing I was thinking as I was reading and it makes the most sense to me.
Something about the style of Wolf’s posts are reminiscent of the times I have been Mafia with him and Kdogg.
I may have written this down in my note wrong, but didn't kdogg finalizing his vote for wolf make the vote tally
kdogg - 4 wolf - 4 indi - 3
Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean when you say kdogg was realizing that wolf was already lost?
He was null and then received a life threatening text from Ref EAP saying he needed to vote. He returned to see that Wolf was all but dead, so to again try to disprove any connections between the two of them, he jumped on the bandwagon and voted Wolf.
I am leaning toward this even though I am not big on trusting Higgi…..but it makes a lot of sense to right now….more so than anything else that is being presented. But now that I read NTRT’s post that Wolf was not quite a goner I am a bit skeptical. Still Higgi’s justification is spot on!
For the record, I did not force kdogg to vote. I told him technically the 36hr rule would be up if he waited until 2am to vote…I just let him know he can't be nulling and working 13hrs every round, or else this game will take as long as the other one.
Thank GOD for your intervention EAP/REF! Kdogg would go on voting/nulling/voting for days if left to his own devices.
I need to stop playing Mafia at work. It gives me way too much time to think about it and I am convinced by every theory out there.
What if all three of those fellers are mafia?! ???
Bacon, I am easily swayed as a townsperson! I buy into all the BS. Higgi, I think that would be awesome! Let’s kill all three!! Honestly though, despite my vote for Indi, he actually seems the least innocent out of the 2 right now along with some who are not in the run-off. What you said about Bek was running through my mind when her posts came up…but the same could be said for me since this is my first post in days.
I am on page four and am willing to change my INDI vote to get a Kdogg Wolf run-off.....not sure if voting is closed yet but about to finish reading. If voting is till open then my vote is NULL until I catch up. I am working on a post as I read.
You are right. I don't know MikeD's role but I DO know mine and know that I am not Mafia. I'm fine with keeping my vote with Indi and letting Wolf die. On second though....I'll just go balls out and vote Wolf. A vote for Indi would kill Wolf anyway.
He has been very absent this game and have no idea of knowing his role.
I have to admit, I have no idea what you're saying here bacon. Can you clarify this?
All im saying is Mike D has done very little this game and there is no reason to give him the sole decision over who dies. That is why I am so against the run-off. I don't want the power to fall into one or two hands.
I was ready to change my vote prior to Jens vote, but there is no point now. If I vote now I get tossed into an extensive math equation and crazy accusations. From what I gather so far, my suspicions are on higgi (although I do agree with most of his posts), and indi who has been surprisingly quiet as well this game as well. There are 10 other votes out there by the way, its not my sole decision. I haven't been playing long enough to pick up who acts like what in which roles.
I was ready to change my vote prior to Jens vote, but there is no point now. If I vote now I get tossed into an extensive math equation and crazy accusations. From what I gather so far, my suspicions are on higgi (although I do agree with most of his posts), and indi who has been surprisingly quiet as well this game as well. There are 10 other votes out there by the way, its not my sole decision. I haven't been playing long enough to pick up who acts like what in which roles.
I know that your vote as it is now holds very little weight but if Jen would have changed her vote to force a run-off you would have had the sole decision on who dies. For the record I don't have any reason to think you are mafia but I also have no reason to think your not mafia.
For some reason Beks vote for Kdogg has not been on the votes cast record since the second page. I edited this tally to include it. As Far as I can tell the tally is and has always been correct.
I would be fine with another run-off but my vote doesn't do anything but make Wolf have more.
I agree with Jen and Higgi on Bek being too quiet this game and her post give really nothing to the game or game play. But I can see being quiet and under the radar as part of her game play. I am not going to accuse her of being Mafia until I hear more from her.
Hippie- your post made sense to me. I do think Kdogg is trying to lead the townspeople to believe his story. When I am really not buying it.
Bacon- you're throwing everyone under the Mafia bus, huh?
quack that, inspector gadget. Let kdogg live and ask about him... I think that will tell way more than asking about higgi.
Take it for what it's worth...
ftr, I have no idea what any of you boys are saying, you are all kinda talking out cha asses, no?
... and I DON'T remember signing up for a statistics class.
Bek.. remember that time you were mafia and stayed really, really quiet and unnoticed all game, then won?
So far, SIX POSTS in FIVE PAGES, all non-confrontational and non-accusatory.
just sayin' ;D
yeah I do remember that... it was awesome, wasn't it? BUT this game is not that game. What could I possibly have to rant about already? I mean it's the first round and you bitches be rollin' five pages deep. But if you wanna know what I'm thinking, I'll tell you.
If anything, I too would say you are most suspicious. You are quiet and usually correct when you are a townie but you are being awfully loud and throwing accusations around everywhere on DAY ONE which is not typical of a seasoned player.
Also... I am keeping an eye out for that INDI cat... just sayin'. I don't trust it... yet.
One last thing I should probably mention... last game I got voted out the first round also as a townsperson! That was lame you guys!
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Aug 3, 2010 23:00:57 GMT -5
^^also, part of what got me voted out was the fact that I changed my vote to wolf to keep myself out of a run off... wtf. Now several of you seem perfectly fine with not having a run off the first round but when I tried to go that route to save myself, I got ousted....
... I smell vote stacking and I'm sure you all can too!
