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This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
What was your favorite Dylan persona? Born again Christian?
I'm sorry, you're right. Ke$ha is the Bob Dylan of our generation.
And you're the Chris Brown of this board. Also it's not really that hard to follow what I'm saying, but somehow you missed it. And for that I sincerely congratulate you.
I'm sorry, you're right. Ke$ha is the Bob Dylan of our generation.
And you're the Chris Brown of this board. Also it's not really that hard to follow what I'm saying, but somehow you missed it. And for that I sincerely congratulate you.
I know exactly what you're saying. That Ke$ha portrays herself under a number of different personas, none of which are actually her, which is something Bob Dylan has done. But that argument can be made about so many artists, especially more fitting ones such as Beyonce and Christina Aguilera, that the Dylan comparison is unfitting and just silly.
This is the first message board I've ever been on, the only reason I joined is because I love Bonnaroo and wanted to read and talk about it all year long.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Nov 10, 2010 0:53:48 GMT -5
Nope. I'm saying that people hate on her for putting on a persona when it comes to her major singles. No need to hate on anyone for putting on a persona if the music's great. Dylan and Ke$ha are both great, although one's obviously way more great. It was more like a pre-emptive strike against the "pop music isn't genuine" crowd. I'd say a fitting comparison is actually Jay-Z. That is unless people really believe he was a drug kingpin.
I actually really like Taylor Swift, but she would never play Bonnaroo. If they were to have any larger country artist, I imagine it'd be some legend like Dolly Parton or Loretta Lynn or a more rock-oriented act like Keith Urban or Brad Paisley
And Kings of Leon played Bonnaroo multiple times before '10
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Post by awolfatthedoor on Nov 30, 2010 2:32:21 GMT -5
Just want to point out that I didn't bump this thread. I doubt a single one of you could actually listen to her new album and not find it the least bit charming. Her melodies are wonderful.
But, "hope she ends up blowing local Tennessee DJs in lieu of record company payola handouts.", is a bit harsh. Have you seen some of our DJs? I wouldn't blow them to get on the radio.
Speaking of that, she was seen with Jake Gyllenhaal at Fido the other day. AC hangs out there when in Nash. Better hope those two don't meet up and we get her at Bonnaroo.
No. A thousand times no. Look, I'm usually the first one to leap up and defend semi-pop music on it's merits (see: Kanye West, Lady Gaga, et al), but Taylor Swift is flat out garbage. Her lyrics sound like they were written in some 12 year old girl's sparkly notebook with unicorn stickers all over it. To say nothing of the fact that she writes music that is, at best, completely and utterly dishonest. All these songs about not being the popular girl, etc. - GET THE F*CK out of here.
F*ck it. Deadspin.com just put up the "Hater's Guide to Taylor Swift" yesterday, which I'm reposting below.
Apropos of nothing, can I unsubscribe to Taylor Swift? Is that possible? I'd really like it to be possible.
I don't quite know how I ended up with all this Taylor Swift in my life. FACT: Eighty-five percent of all advertisements and magazine covers are now mandated by law to feature Taylor Swift, or at least some portion of her hair crimping. Anytime there's an award show or special live presentation or a Kia dealership grand opening, you can pretty much count on Swift showing up with her guitar and undermining the days and days of effort that Autotune put into creating one of her albums. F*ck, even Collinsworth spent last week's Sunday Night game gushing about her. I can't get away from this biznatch. I even know she dates Jake Gyllenhaal. AND OMG BEEFY NECK GUY FROM TWILIGHT TOTALLY BROKE HER HEART!
I don't understand all the fuss. Taylor Swift makes training bra music. Her Leno is one step removed from a Fisher Price Little People CD. Every record she sells should come with a complimentary pack of Spree. If you're over fourteen, you shouldn't want anything to do with it. But no, every f*cking adult music critic on Earth fawns over this girl and protects her like she's some kind of golly gee forest pixie. SHE'S SO MATURE FOR AGE! SHE HANDLED THAT KANYE SITUATION SO WELL! SHE'S SO ARTICULATE! No, seriously. Someone wrote that.
Swift's thoughtful honesty and surprisingly articulate take on life should be commended.
What is this, a f*cking report card? HOORAY! SHE'S ALMOST 21 AND HAS THE ABILITY TO SPEAK! And since when is this chick honest? Have you heard some of these lyrics?
But she wears short skirts, I wear t-shirts She's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers Dreaming bout the day when you wake up and find That what you're lookin for has been here the whole time
First of all, is there anything honest about that? This woman is a f*cking ROCK STAR and a millionaire. She's, like, ninety stages above the cheer captain. Cheer captains are quacking special ed students compared to her. And she never wears quacking t-shirts. She wears $10,000 Halston gowns and all kinds of other sparkly Leno. Some producer in Nashville probably made her write this so that fat Jenny in the seventh grade out there would have music that "speaks to her". And there's nothing mature about this sh*t. It's the soundtrack to a trip to Spencer Gifts. Anyone could write that. I could write that.
It's late at night and he's sendin' you a text But you just bought your first box of Kotex He doesn't know you're a bloody mess But if he saw your crotch, he could probably guess…
It's not that hard, okay? This f*cking Kanye thing has made everyone treat Swift like she's some precious doll they bought at the Franklin Mint. Meanwhile, Justin Bieber and his fans get made fun of (rightfully so) by quacking EVERYONE. And Bieber actually IS a kid! He's not even voting age, the way this woman is. But somehow you're an assh*le if you hate Taylor Swift? That's bullsh*t. Bullsh*t. Just because she's the official spank bank material for every white assh*le on the Texas Rangers roster doesn't mean I have to give a crap.
People, I am here to grant you permission to hate Taylor Swift at will. You can go right ahead and laugh at her horrible singing and hope she ends up blowing local Tennessee DJs in lieu of record company payola handouts. Go ahead. Don't feel bad. She's a big girl. She can handle it. She'll probably even be able to make a really sh*t-y album out of it.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Nov 30, 2010 13:04:54 GMT -5
Gram Parsons came from a wealthy family and went to Harvard, so it's kinda hard to say his music is 100% authentic.
The dude that wrote that Hater's Guide also writes columns about drunken hookup failures and farts for a sports gossip site. I'm not really sure his word is the most trustworthy when it comes to music.
And her new album, which is by far her best, is really a step-up both melodically and lyrically from that song quoted in that article. Once again I bet no one hating here has actually given it a chance. Oh well.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
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-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Also there's a reason I don't go in all the Phish thread and argue why they suck. It's because I haven't listened to enough of their music to properly judge them. I still defy am willing to bet no one could listen to my edited version of her new album and find not a single melody they really liked.
