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Heathen! The Lego games aren't even close to shovelware.
I've played the Lego games myself, they can have their charm, but they are generally very simple, basic games based on licensed properties. You replay events of whatever property they are based on. In Lego Star Wars, you replay the events of the movies, in Lego Avengers, you replay the events of those movies. They generally have a ton of playable characters, but they are mostly palate swaps of each other. I'm not saying the Lego games are complete trash or that you shouldn't like them, but they are shovelware.
My point still stands, Sony of America ignored a ton of great upcoming playstation exclusive games that are coming out soon in favor of games that are more that a year away from launch.
First, from Wikipedia: "Shovelware is a derogatory computer term" used to describe"low-budget, poor quality video games".
Your assertion that I need not hate the LEGO games for being perceived Shovelware is ludicrous.
And the LEGO games are neither low budget, nor poor quality.
Second: E3 is a Western industry trade show. Vendors will generally not display games that won't make them money in the West. Aside from Persona, the titles you mentioned are relatively niche and not the attention grabbers that Kojima, GoW, Spiderman, or even Crash remasters are.
E3 isn't about *us*. It's for investors and the press.
I've played the Lego games myself, they can have their charm, but they are generally very simple, basic games based on licensed properties. You replay events of whatever property they are based on. In Lego Star Wars, you replay the events of the movies, in Lego Avengers, you replay the events of those movies. They generally have a ton of playable characters, but they are mostly palate swaps of each other. I'm not saying the Lego games are complete trash or that you shouldn't like them, but they are shovelware.
My point still stands, Sony of America ignored a ton of great upcoming playstation exclusive games that are coming out soon in favor of games that are more that a year away from launch.
First, from Wikipedia: "Shovelware is a derogatory computer term" used to describe"low-budget, poor quality video games".
Your assertion that I need not hate the LEGO games for being perceived Shovelware is ludicrous.
And the LEGO games are neither low budget, nor poor quality.
Second: E3 is a Western industry trade show. Vendors will generally not display games that won't make them money in the West. Aside from Persona, the titles you mentioned are relatively niche and not the attention grabbers that Kojima, GoW, Spiderman, or even Crash remasters are.
E3 isn't about *us*. It's for investors and the press.
I have no issue with regular, original lego games, i played the shit out of Lego Island on PC when I was a little kid. I owned a TON of Legos growing up, they were like my favorite toy ever. The licensed Lego games ARE shovelware though. They are low effort, simple games based on licensed properties. check out this link: List of Lego video games Lego Star Wars released in 2005, there has been one to three licensed Lego games released every year since then. The licensed Lego games are in the same category as stuff like movie tie in games (which have thankfully died out), Ubisoft's Just Dance series, mobile games, and most yearly franchises.
There isn't anything wrong with liking a bad game, I played Devil's Third for Wii U recently, that game was really janky, but was fun with it's over the top, goofy style and absurd plot, plus all the the funny glitches (shoot a guy in the chest and his head explodes). It had a lot of technical problems which prevent it from being great, but it was still an enjoyable experience.
The thing is, the games I mentioned were being shown off at E3, ATLUS was showing off Persona 5 and Yakuza 0 with streams and interviews. Square Enix was showing off Dragon Quest Builders and Nier: Automata in the same fashion. Even Sony was had a build of Gravity Rush 2 at E3 for people to see. These games were all at E3, Sony just wouldn't acknowledge them for asinine reasons. These games are niche because not enough people know about them, that's why Sony should have shown this stuff off at their conference, to promote these games that are coming to playstaion, to help them sell better. It's a win-win for them and the developer, if they sell better, Sony gets more licensing revenue.
I'd argue at this point that E3 is more about us than the investors and the press. E3 is a big time of the year for game announcements and status updates on upcoming titles. There's a reason so many people make a big deal about E3 and follow what goes on at it. All these gameplay steams and announcements are targeted at gamers, not investors or the press.
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I'd argue at this point that E3 is more about us than the investors and the press. E3 is a big time of the year for game announcements and status updates on upcoming titles. There's a reason so many people make a big deal about E3 and follow what goes on at it. All these gameplay steams and announcements are targeted at gamers, not investors or the press.
I'd argue at this point that E3 is more about us than the investors and the press. E3 is a big time of the year for game announcements and status updates on upcoming titles. There's a reason so many people make a big deal about E3 and follow what goes on at it. All these gameplay steams and announcements are targeted at gamers, not investors or the press.
If it were, it would be open to the public.
It is not.
I mean, just about everything relevant gets streamed. We don't get to play the games on the show floor sure, but all the news and announcements are available to use. The not being open to the public thing seems to be a holdover to the earlier days of E3 when it was really was just for investors and the press. There is also the logistical issue of admitting hundred's if not thousands of extra people. They'd need a much bigger venue to admit that many people. E3 is for us, not them.
Picked up rocket league in the steam sale. It's a lot harder than it looks on youtube. Controlling the damn car is surprisingly difficult. Maybe I should just stick to football manager haha.
Picked up rocket league in the steam sale. It's a lot harder than it looks on youtube. Controlling the damn car is surprisingly difficult. Maybe I should just stick to football manager haha.
Love that game, when my buddy comes over it's basically all we play
Post by actually @fortyfive33 now on Jul 6, 2016 15:43:00 GMT -5
Just finished the new DOOM. Really loved it.
However....that final boss fight is pathetic. I finished it in one go. (Keep in mind it took me six or seven times each to beat the Cyberdemon and Hell Guards.)
Should we just start another thread for Pokemon Go?
Could you explain this to me? It looks fun, but you just go around and basically collect pokemon "in the wild", do you have to battle them, i saw there are gyms are there actual gym battles? And also i know there isn't head to head battles yet but will there be? Do you train your pokemon? Do they evolve? Or is it literally a way for Nintendo and Pokemon to force their fans to go outside? Just curious as to the appeal besides just geocaching pokemon i guess.
Should we just start another thread for Pokemon Go?
Could you explain this to me? It looks fun, but you just go around and basically collect pokemon "in the wild", do you have to battle them, i saw there are gyms are there actual gym battles? And also i know there isn't head to head battles yet but will there be? Do you train your pokemon? Do they evolve? Or is it literally a way for Nintendo and Pokemon to force their fans to go outside? Just curious as to the appeal besides just geocaching pokemon i guess.
Should we just start another thread for Pokemon Go?
Could you explain this to me? It looks fun, but you just go around and basically collect pokemon "in the wild", do you have to battle them, i saw there are gyms are there actual gym battles? And also i know there isn't head to head battles yet but will there be? Do you train your pokemon? Do they evolve? Or is it literally a way for Nintendo and Pokemon to force their fans to go outside? Just curious as to the appeal besides just geocaching pokemon i guess.
Its more like Safari Zone catching the pokemon, the battles are trailer to trainer at gyms. There are 3 teams you can choose from. There are "poke-spots" which are mostly Gov. buildings, Churches, and historical landmarks. You get items here. Evolving takes points, which means you have to capture like 15 rattatas to evolve one.
Could you explain this to me? It looks fun, but you just go around and basically collect pokemon "in the wild", do you have to battle them, i saw there are gyms are there actual gym battles? And also i know there isn't head to head battles yet but will there be? Do you train your pokemon? Do they evolve? Or is it literally a way for Nintendo and Pokemon to force their fans to go outside? Just curious as to the appeal besides just geocaching pokemon i guess.
Its more like Safari Zone catching the pokemon, the battles are trailer to trainer at gyms. There are 3 teams you can choose from. There are "poke-spots" which are mostly Gov. buildings, Churches, and historical landmarks. You get items here. Evolving takes points, which means you have to capture like 15 rattatas to evolve one.
I still don't really get it, like you can only find pokemon in those type of buildings? It seems entertaining and the different pictures i've seen have made me laugh. But was thinking more like you would be hiking and maybe like a more remote area would have more like epic pokemon. Seems like something i'd do for a week and then stop. I'll still enjoy the pictures of other people doing it though.
Its more like Safari Zone catching the pokemon, the battles are trailer to trainer at gyms. There are 3 teams you can choose from. There are "poke-spots" which are mostly Gov. buildings, Churches, and historical landmarks. You get items here. Evolving takes points, which means you have to capture like 15 rattatas to evolve one.
I still don't really get it, like you can only find pokemon in those type of buildings? It seems entertaining and the different pictures i've seen have made me laugh. But was thinking more like you would be hiking and maybe like a more remote area would have more like epic pokemon. Seems like something i'd do for a week and then stop. I'll still enjoy the pictures of other people doing it though.
I caught a venonat in the middle of the street and a pidgey when I was in the can. Their everywhere. Battles are only in gyms (specified location)
I'm loving pokemon go, team mystic for life. I hope they get the server issues taken care of soon and also add some features like trading and battles between players. There are no pokestops or gyms close to my house but there are a bunch near my work.
I'm loving pokemon go, team mystic for life. I hope they get the server issues taken care of soon and also add some features like trading and battles between players. There are no pokestops or gyms close to my house but there are a bunch near my work.
UPDATE: The full list of games included in the console are:
Balloon Fight Bubble Bobble Castlevania Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr. Double Dragon II Dr. Mario Excitebike Final Fantasy Galaga Ghosts ‘n’ Goblins Gradius Ice Climber Kid Icarus Kirby’s Adventure Mario Bros. Mega Man 2 Metroid Ninja Gaiden Pac-man Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream StarTropics SUPER C Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 2 Super Mario Bros. 3 Tecmo Bowl The Legend of Zelda Zelda II: The Adventure of Link Furthermore, the NES controller can be attached to a wii-mote for use with NES Virtual Console games on the Wii U. And if you own a classic controller or classic controller pro, each of those will work on the NES mini.
The system itself comes packaged with an HDMI cable and a USB cable which powers the console. Additional NES controllers will set you back $10 each.
UPDATE: The full list of games included in the console are:
Balloon Fight Bubble Bobble Castlevania Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr. Double Dragon II Dr. Mario Excitebike Final Fantasy Galaga Ghosts ‘n’ Goblins Gradius Ice Climber Kid Icarus Kirby’s Adventure Mario Bros. Mega Man 2 Metroid Ninja Gaiden Pac-man Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream StarTropics SUPER C Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 2 Super Mario Bros. 3 Tecmo Bowl The Legend of Zelda Zelda II: The Adventure of Link Furthermore, the NES controller can be attached to a wii-mote for use with NES Virtual Console games on the Wii U. And if you own a classic controller or classic controller pro, each of those will work on the NES mini.
The system itself comes packaged with an HDMI cable and a USB cable which powers the console. Additional NES controllers will set you back $10 each.
After 400 hours of DS3, I think it's time to try a new game. I have MGS and Fallout 4. I am a Dark Souls/Skyrim/Uncharted/Legend of Zelda guy... who also hated Witcher 3.