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Post by Mr.BelgianAmbers on Sept 21, 2011 8:36:45 GMT -5
I only voted for Scrog because I'm ''scared'' he's mafia. I didn't want to vote as last and I decided to vote early. Most of you want to wait and see who others are voting for. Me too, but I didn't want to wait a whole day and be the last ''deciding'' voter.
I chose Scrog because he was the person I wanted to vote for, but I asked for some explanation about him being mafia or townspeople. I would've done the same with anyone else because at this point you can't just know in advance who you will be voting for if no one else has said something that round.
I hope that this clears some things up. I'm still not 100% sure about Scrog, but Im pretty sure about NBF. I think it's smart from her to change her vote from Scrog to me, but if she thinks that Scrog is mafia, I don't really think it's fair that she takes me into the runoff. She would do that if she was Mafia or suspect me of being mafia (what she doesn't). She wanting to be longer in this game and whack a fellow townspeople out, doesn't make any sense to me. I would try to convince others who is mafia and who isn't and just let people kill me. (I would take that bullet.)
I know that NBF is mafia (pretty sure) and I will not take this bullet for her. I would do it for a townspeople, but not for mafia.
Who the quack cares WHICH mafia I'm voting for as long as it is someone I believe to be mafia????
You are ridiculous. The end.
I thought you had nothing else to say to me? ??? I think it matters who you vote for, if townies spread their votes between Mafia and Mafia stack their votes on one player, that player gets voted off and not Mafia!!! So I think townies should vote for the same Mafia player and not spread out their votes, if this is not the way to play, then I am wrong. Maybe you need to reevaluate your Mafia playing strategy.
OK, it should be obvious to all that the most suspicious person in the game from my perspective has been Scrog. I don't like that I'm being forced to vote between NBF and HEG but that's where I am. I again went back through the threads and don't see anything suspicious about NBF. Her votes and posts seem normal to me. The only reason she voted for HEG was to save herself this round and I can certainly understand that.
I haven't been suspicious of HEG but he has also been pretty quiet so there is not a lot to go on. Some people seem to think that because somebody is being quiet they are suspicious but I personally don't subscribe to that theory.
My deciding factor for this vote is because HEG is saying that he sees Scrog's logic and I still don't. While I would rather be voting Scrog, HEG seem's more likely to be Mafia than NBF.
Votes So Far: Scrog >>> NBF Mr. Belgian Manders >>> Scrog >>> Null >>> NBF EAP >>> Mr Belgian Manders Duddits >>> Mr Belgian Manders Krunchykat >>> NBF NBF >>> Scrog >>> Mr. Belgian Manders Quacker >>> Scrog >>> null >>> Mr. Belgian Manders
Voting remains open.
I'll leave the round open until tonight. I'm planning on closeing it when discussion dies down.
Last Edit: Sept 21, 2011 13:30:41 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
Btw, I'm the Inspector Now please finish this game as soon as possible and re-read my posts.
Your best friend, HEG
First of all, it's very convenient that you would wait until you are backed into a corner, about to be killed off, and then come out and announce you are the inspector. Not to mention that it's after other players have announced they are pretty sure the inspector is dead, so you can be pretty sure that no one will challenge you.
But besides that, your claim doesn't even make any sense. From your previous posts, it's pretty clear that you are saying that you are the inspector and you have my name. But then in posts in this round, you said that you were afraid that Scrog might be mafia. I don't really understand how you could know for sure that I am mafia but still be scared that Scrog is mafia.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Now that we can "dislike" I'm going to dislike almost everyone's comments!
Wow! That like/dislike is cool! Thanks LLL!
As far as the inspectory story goes I'm going to need convincing. I've only been following the last few games so I've only seen SFA's inspector post. I have seen references to MikeD's fake inspector post although I've never read the thread. EAP makes sense. I want facts too!
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Sept 21, 2011 21:00:36 GMT -5
Speaking of, a guy at the Pillow Wand show at Solid Sound said that it was "like watching a guitar circle jerk, as though Nels and Thurston had just pulled out their cocks and started playing their guitars with them, their music is so masturbatory".
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I have a feeling HEG's sleeping (probably with a HEC) so I don't think we're getting any answers tonite.
HAHA. We need to settle on a name for him. I have no idea who is being talked about half the time.
And yep. It looks like people aren't going to get a response until early in the morning. Which puts us into the working hours problem again. I do really think this round needs to end or go into a runoff, if deemed necessary, at some point tomorrow. But if it doesn't it doesn't, let's just see how discussion goes.
I'm sorry guys, it was very late yesterday for me.
And yes I'm the inspector, but I didn't know I could reveal myself... I really didn't..
I wondered if this was the case which is why I asked for you to come out now. We're noobs and still learning the game. I wouldn't have known as much as I do if I hadn't asked SFA a bunch of questions before the game started.
Post by Mr.BelgianAmbers on Sept 22, 2011 7:40:54 GMT -5
Where does it actually say that the Inspector can reveal himself? It was something SFA told me in a reply to my guess that made me think that an Inspector has to remain a hidden figure in this game.
This sounds believable but I've got thinking to do. I know I'm a Townie and don't want to fall into any traps. If HEG really is the inspector then I've been duped by NBF's logic the whole game. If he's not then I'll just be getting duped worse and I'm not going to like that one bit. It could be a ploy to get real Townie's off the Mafia's back or it could be the break we've been looking for.
Post by Mr.BelgianAmbers on Sept 22, 2011 8:59:25 GMT -5
If I would've knew that I could reveal myself I might done it earlier as it would make this game a lot easier. I didn't even know it was allowed to ''fake'' being the inspector. As it's not smart, because mafia will whack you.
If I survive this round I will be dead anyway. And if Mafia doesn't kill me, I might reveal their 3rd member what they don't want. Unless he's dead already, but then NBF and Duddits will still try to kill me.
You didn't know you could reveal yourself when we all kept saying "wish the inspector would come forward" etc????? I am 50/50 believing you. That said if you look at the two groups I thought was mafia the second group is nbf, duddits and quacker. If this is right then the game will be over tonight if we don't vote nbf off.
You didn't know you could reveal yourself when we all kept saying "wish the inspector would come forward" etc????? I am 50/50 believing you. That said if you look at the two groups I thought was mafia the second group is nbf, duddits and quacker. If this is right then the game will be over tonight if we don't vote nbf off.
In the spirit of that thinking.....
EAP>>>>Belgian>>>nbf
Thanks for believing me at least 50/50. You have to understand that I tought that if I would reveal myself, we had to start over and the game couldn't go on because someone revealed himself.
NBF - first mafia I knew LLL - NO mafia Duddits - mafia
I don't know the third one.
I put Duddits in the Day 1 runoff, and I didn't change my vote from him until the runoff went down to LLL and LD. Not unheard of, I'll admit, but still kind of risky for mafia partners.
If you knew that I was mafia, why would you ask about LLL on Night 1? I was one of the final votes for her. You could make an argument that if Duddits and I were mafia together, I put him in the runoff to separate myself from him. I'll concede that, but I would not have given a fellow mafia member a 5th vote that was likely to send her home. So, why ask about her? The only thing I can think of is the Scrog vote-change thing, but why not ask about Scrog then?
In Day 2, if you knew that I was mafia and LLL was innocent, why didn't you say anything to try to encourage someone to change their vote to me? I know you didn't want to tip your hand as investigator, but you did not say anything at all for nearly 2 full days while LLL was voted off, and I was allowed to move on.
You obviously aren't going to convince me or Duddits that you are really the investigator, which leaves EAP and Quacker. It's very convenient that your explanation of mafia fits so well within EAP's quote here:
I'm sticking to that + townspeople should back me up on this. I think Scrog thinks something like this. I'm 99% sure about the first two. EAP is my third guess just because he's backing up the first two.
BTW: I voted for Scrog at first because I'm the most afraid of him being Mafia. He's smart and always has his special way to explain things. If he's townspeople, we are lucky to have him.
I don't think Inspector is dead, I'm pretty sure he's careful enough to not to be killed
So, you were thinking that she is mafia with me and Duddits, but she grouped me and Duddits together in that post for everyone to consider?
And I asked about this before, but you didn't respond. What about this post:
I only voted for Scrog because I'm ''scared'' he's mafia. I didn't want to vote as last and I decided to vote early. Most of you want to wait and see who others are voting for. Me too, but I didn't want to wait a whole day and be the last ''deciding'' voter.
I chose Scrog because he was the person I wanted to vote for, but I asked for some explanation about him being mafia or townspeople. I would've done the same with anyone else because at this point you can't just know in advance who you will be voting for if no one else has said something that round.
I hope that this clears some things up. I'm still not 100% sure about Scrog, but Im pretty sure about NBF. I think it's smart from her to change her vote from Scrog to me, but if she thinks that Scrog is mafia, I don't really think it's fair that she takes me into the runoff. She would do that if she was Mafia or suspect me of being mafia (what she doesn't). She wanting to be longer in this game and whack a fellow townspeople out, doesn't make any sense to me. I would try to convince others who is mafia and who isn't and just let people kill me. (I would take that bullet.)
I know that NBF is mafia (pretty sure) and I will not take this bullet for her. I would do it for a townspeople, but not for mafia.
If you knew that I was mafia, how could you possibly be concerned that Scrog might be mafia with me? It doesn't make any sense?
Post by Mr.BelgianAmbers on Sept 22, 2011 9:44:27 GMT -5
Mafia whacks the most threatening person in this game. If I would've 'nominated' you as mafia from day 1 mafia would've whacked me soon probably. As inspector I can't act suspicious.
Now I have you where you don't want to be, in a runoff with the inspector. Mafia didn't know that I'm inspector and that's what I tried to achieve.
I kept myself undercover and I tought I had to be for the rest of the game. I asked for LLL because I just made a guess not looking at the votes of day 1. Everything can happen day 1.
You nominating Duddits on day 1 is the smartest thing mafia can do, you can change your vote whenever you want to save a fellow mafia member.
I think EAP is mafia, but like I said I can't be sure about that as I didn't guess his name.
You keep telling me it isn't smart to kill (read 'nominate') a fellow mafia, but that would be the smartest move a mafia member can make. Why? Because what you are trying to do right now. You're trying to convince everyone that I'm not the inspector because it wouldn't be possible that you and Duddits are mafia just because you voted for him.
Post by NothingButFlowers on Sept 22, 2011 10:01:25 GMT -5
It's one thing to not act suspicious and another thing to just let an innocent townsperson get killed off when you know the other person in the runoff is mafia. You could have said something to indicate that you thought I was guilty without necessarily giving yourself away as inspector.
It doesn't make sense that you would just make a random guess on Night 1 without looking at the votes. Sure, anything can happen in Day 1, but it seems like you would at least consider the votes when making your guess.
EAP is a girl.
Is the last thing directed at my argument about how you could possibly be afraid that Scrog was mafia? If not, I'd still like you to address that. If so, I'm not saying that if I was mafia, I would never vote to kill off a fellow mafia member, but I am saying that there is no way that I could have kept up my ongoing thing with Scrog during this game if he and I were both mafia.
Now please finish this game as soon as possible and re-read my posts.
