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Votes So Far: Scrog >>> NBF Mr. Belgian Manders >>> Scrog >>> Null >>> NBF EAP >>> Mr Belgian Manders Quacker >>> Scrog Duddits >>> Mr Belgian Manders Krunchykat >>> NBF NBF >>> Scrog >>> Mr. Belgian Manders
I feel discussion is strong enough to leave it open for a while longer. I'll check back in at around 4pm EST. Unless something major is going on, I plan on starting the runoff then.
EAP and Duddits. Can you elaborate on your votes for HotEuroGuy? I know he's been quiet. Is that a reason to suspect him of being Mafia? My suspicions of Scrog are much stronger than anything I've gotten from NBF so the main reason I would suspect him is his vote switch from Scrog to NBF. I'm heading off to see Wilco later today and would like to hear your views before making a call on whether I should switch my vote.
Time's up. I haven't heard from anybody yet and I don't want to rush this decision. I'll be outahere til tomorrow afternoon cuz we're staying in Boston tonight. Would like to read viewpoints when I'm Inforooable again.
sorry quacker. i teach preK, so it is really hard for me to get a few minutes during the day to respond now that school has started back.
i voted for the belgian because i think he is mafia. i think it is him, scrog and LLL. possibly krunchy.
it doesn't really matter what scrog says, switching his vote away from LLL at the last minute suspicious. truth. the belgian has been right as his side the whole time. and then scrog starts asking me "why are you voting for belgian"?
i honestly have nothing else to go on besides that and my gut.
sorry quacker. i teach preK, so it is really hard for me to get a few minutes during the day to respond now that school has started back.
i voted for the belgian because i think he is mafia. i think it is him, scrog and LLL. possibly krunchy.
it doesn't really matter what scrog says, switching his vote away from LLL at the last minute suspicious. truth. the belgian has been right as his side the whole time. and then scrog starts asking me "why are you voting for belgian"?
I honestly have nothing else to go on besides that and my gut.
EAP, I asked you why you voted for HEG, because you have been calling me Mafia and then you voted for him. Why not vote me off if you think I am Mafia? Has HEG been at my side the whole game? When was this? Only Mafia would want to keep my mouth around. I am drawing attention to myself and away from them. So why not vote me off when you had the chance.
a. i didn't vote for you, b/c i the only other person who seems to pushing for you so hard is NBF. i don't wish to be too closely associated with anyone, and what difference does it make if i voted you or him?
b. why didn't you ask duddits why he voted for belgian?
c. you say "only mafia would want to keep my mouth around." well yeah. b/c you might be mafia.
d. why are you being so defensive concerning belgian, if you are in no way affiliated with him? seems to me like you wouldn't really care who i voted for one way or another, as long as it wasn't you.
a. i didn't vote for you, b/c i the only other person who seems to pushing for you so hard is NBF. i don't wish to be too closely associated with anyone, and what difference does it make if i voted you or him?
What about quacker pushing for me? It seems if you thought I was Mafia you would have voted me off and not put another in the run off.
b. why didn't you ask duddits why he voted for belgian?
I thought I did or at least I meant to. Dubbits can you elaborate on why you voted for HEG?
c. you say "only mafia would want to keep my mouth around." well yeah. b/c you might be mafia.
I very well could be, but I am not
d. why are you being so defensive concerning belgian, if you are in no way affiliated with him? seems to me like you wouldn't really care who I voted for one way or another, as long as it wasn't you.
Well the thing is I know who I am. I find it strange for someone who thinks I am Mafia to randomly change their stance and then vote when someone else, while still claiming I am Mafia. You had a chance to vote me off, but you decided to add HEG into the mix. To me that is weird and others might should take notice. I do not think I am being too defensive for HEG, you are linking us as Mafia, so I will get defensive when that happens, hence why I am on NBF as Mafia as much as I am, because she has been on me since day 1. I was questioning why you voted for him and I do want to know why Dubbits felt that way as well, because adding another to this run-off is weird, especially when you have a so-called-mafia member already in the run-off.
i didn't randomly change my stance. when did i do that? when i voted for belgian, only three other people had voted, INCLUDING belgian's change from you to NBF with no explanation whatsoever other than "scrog's theory makes sense to me". so truthfully, i did NOT "add" another person to the runoff. how could i do this when half of the people left hadn't even voted??
i didn't randomly change my stance. when did i do that? when i voted for belgian, only three other people had voted, INCLUDING belgian's change from you to NBF with no explanation whatsoever other than "scrog's theory makes sense to me". so truthfully, i did NOT "add" another person to the runoff. how could i do this when half of the people left hadn't even voted??
Were you not saying I was Mafia? or am Mafia? Then I would think you would vote for me. You did not, you changed and then voted for HEG. Okay, I mispoke, you did not "add" another into a run off, but you started voting for someone who had no votes, making it three people with votes. After you voted, Quacker, Dubbits, and KK still needed to vote. I think we can assume Quacker was voting for me and that left KK and Dubbits to vote. I do not understand, if you trully think I am Mafia, why not vote for me off, unles you want me around? Another note, not sure if it means anything, but Belgium gave a response, a reason, when he voted on why he was switching, you just voted. If I was Mafia, I could care less who you voted for as long as it was not me. As a townie, stange voting habits rasies red flags. If I am Mafia, I have laid out my plan of who I think or who I could pin as Mafia, if I were Mafia. I would not add another to that story to make it more confusing, but you are acting more Mafia-like to me.
On a side note, After work tonight, I start on Balckwater time ;D ;D, meaning I will not be as vocal and posting as often as I have been. I do have my phone, which I am able to access the Internet, but it becomes a pain-in-the-ass to use when my face is melting to Ghostland Observatory!
you are pushing really hard for some stuff scrog and unfortunately, in my mind it only makes you look kind of guilty. the whole first round mike "didn't agree with you". in fact he voted opposite you every time. the only time he "agreed" with your theory was in ONE post second round.
I missed this the first time I read it and responded to it. Did Mike D and I have any discussions in round one(he texted me when I was driving across the country)? MikeD only had 8 post and 1 of those post he agreed with my theory. I voted for LLL, then he voted for LLL, I would think that meant we voted the same? I have said Dubbits was the 3rd Mafia, MikeD had voted for Dubbits.
"in fact he voted opposite you every time"
This statement is 100% wrong!
everything you are saying is hinging on the fact that you believe LD was mafia. do you have any proof of this?
Nope! other than his actions being Mafia-like.
i wish our inspector would show their face if they are still alive. even if you only have one name, perhaps that can shed some light in the direction we need to move.
If we think MikeD was inspector, than I am clearly not Mafia, if we think Noage was Mafia, then that means nothing for me and I think someone, an experienced Mafia player, made a great guess in picking to whack Noage.
i'm acting mafia like b/c i'm not voting for you?????
You are acting Mafia, because you have said I am Mafia, then you voted for someone else. If you think someone is Mafia and have expressed that, why would you switch and vote for someone else? Why not vote me off? Why?
no offense scrog, but if you are not mafia you are too much of an aggressive player for my taste. look what you did last time and how wrong you were.
I am very aggressive in this game.
maybe you are doing this again on purpose.
It is how I play.
and don't you worry. if the townies make it through this round, i WILL be voting for you next round.
Votes So Far: Duddits >>> LLL Quacker >>> Lowerdeck EAP >>> Lowerdeck Noage >>> LLL Mr. Belgian Manders >>> Lowerdeck Krunkchykat >>> Lowerdeck LLL >>> Lowerdeck NBF >>> LLL Mike D >>> LLL Scrog>>> LLL >>> Lowerdeck Lowerdeck >>> LLL >>> Lowerdeck
Voting remains open until around 8pm
uhhhhh. really???
when you say, MikeD voted opposite me every time. I think we did not vote for the same person. We voted opposite. We both voted for LLL, he voted for Dubbits and I have suggest Dubbits is Mafia. So, YES, really!
here's what its coming down to.
mafia is either:
scrog, lll and belgian
or
nbf, duddits and quacker
that's my story and i'm sticking to it.
I will defend LLL, because I do not see her as Mafia. In round 1, she was content with being voted off. She even mentioned how discussions had died down and everyone had voted. Meaning it was time to close voting. The Ref, then announced his decision to close voting the next day, then I changed my voted to LD. If LLL was Mafia, she would have went down fighting more than that. Believe it or not, but she had the most votes for over 24 hours and the Ref had mention the voting would not go all weekend. Discussion had died down, and she was asking about closing voting. I do not see that as Mafia. My vote switch, is strange, maybe Mafia-like, but too bold, too obvious.
Thanks Dubbits for your explanation. When I asked EAP that, she got very defensive and has yet to answer this,
If you think someone is Mafia and have expressed that, why would you switch and vote for someone else? Why not vote me off? Why?
EAP, let me get this straight, before I bark up "another" tree. I wanted to know why Dubbits voted for HEG, but I wanted to know more why you voted for HEG because you have voiced me as being Mafia. Have you not said I was Mafia? If so, would you not want to get rid of Mafia? Red Flags went off when someone voted against that Mafia player and then changed their vote after that Mafia player had explained some thing to them. They changed their vote back to someone they had voted for before. This sent off 'red flags'. Enough red flags that you changed voting for the one who you have said is Mafia, to someone who you just decided was. I do not understand why you would do that. If you truly thought I was Mafia, then as a townie you would want that Mafia player out of here. You would not want to put another one into the mix. What happens if the voting turns out that neither Me or HEG gets enough votes and NBF gets the majority and gets voted off. You lost your chance to vote off someone you thought or have voiced for being Mafia. In others words, by expanding the voting it puts NBF at risk of being voted off and both "mafia" not. You could have voted me off, someone you have said is Mafia, but you did not. So you get me around for another round, unless you want to whack me tonight. Which I do not think you will. Also, you said next round you are coming after me? What makes you so sure you will be around next round? My thank you to Dubbits was me getting under your skin and glad to see it worked. and last game I picked up on some subtle tells, I was just off on to what those tells were for, I thought Mafia and not inspector.
Inspector is dead, if they were alive, they would have spoke up a long time ago. Either to give me credit or to discredit me. I would hope it was MikeD, that would give valditiy to my theory, but it just as well could have been Noage.
You thanked duddits for his "explanation" which was partially my quote! You can't be serious.
I didn't mean to offend by quoting you. My reaction to this round was HEG voted for Scrog. Scrog questioned HEG on why he voted for him. Then all of a sudden he votes HEG>>>Scrog>>>TBD. This bluntly points out that HEG has no intentions of making his final vote for Scrog at this point. His reasoning is that Scrog's argument makes the most sense and places his vote for NBF (which still stands). This is easily the most unexplained vote switch second to Scrog saving LLL at the very last moment in Day 1.
Post by Mr.BelgianAmbers on Sept 21, 2011 2:16:51 GMT -5
My guess: NBF, Duddits, EAP
I'm sticking to that + townspeople should back me up on this. I think Scrog thinks something like this. I'm 99% sure about the first two. EAP is my third guess just because he's backing up the first two.
BTW: I voted for Scrog at first because I'm the most afraid of him being Mafia. He's smart and always has his special way to explain things. If he's townspeople, we are lucky to have him.
I don't think Inspector is dead, I'm pretty sure he's careful enough to not to be killed
So you are threatening me? I may not be around?? As for getting under my skin, yeah it is annoying when someone accuses me of not answering something and then gives props to someone else FOR USING MY EXPLANATION. Inconsistent much??
I've answered all your questions repeatedly. JUST LIKE LAST GAME. I really hope you are mafia, bc if you aren't then you might want to seriously rethink your playing strategy, as it blows.
I wish I could, but I do not have the power to do that this game.
As for getting under my skin, yeah it is annoying when someone accuses me of not answering something and then gives props to someone else FOR USING MY EXPLANATION. Inconsistent much??
IDK, maybe I am the only one who sees you voicing for one person being Mafia, but then voting for someone else, as being strange. You had a good chance of voting off a so-called Mafia, but you chose to expand the pool of possible Mafia. To me that is weird.
I've answered all your questions repeatedly. JUST LIKE LAST GAME. I really hope you are mafia, bc if you aren't then you might want to seriously rethink your playing strategy, as it blows.
Really, no you have not answered my question. Why add another, into the ones to be voted off? If you thought I was Mafia, why not vote for me?! Did I catch you slipping? I feel you are getting testier, (this is only a game). If I am wrong and LD, or you or Quacker or NBF are not Mafia and LLL is, then I will rethink my Mafia strategy, as for now, I wish I could vote for you.
Also P.S. I didn't flip flop my vote, I started the round voting for Belgian and kept it that way.
Belgian HAS flip flopped this round but I guess thar doesnt matter cause he changed away from you eh? How convenient.
If that is the case than why am I on you, you changed from voting for me the previous rounds. Not sure I said flip flopped your vote this round. You have been calling me Mafia, then this round you changed that and voted for HEG. You have not changed your vote this round. Had HEG been calling me Mafia, then switch from me to you, I would be the same way with him.
EAP, the funny thing is. When I asked why you decided to vote for HEG, I wanted to here you say something along the lines, I saw something in his words or something like that. I was curious as to why you switched your vote, maybe I was missing something, but your response was a defensive one when you were talking to Quacker.
and then scrog starts asking me "why are you voting for belgian"?
I was honestly curious what you saw. I found it even weirder when you still claimed I was Mafia, but you did not vote for me, you voted for another so-called-mafia.
;D, meaning I will not be as vocal and posting as often as I have been. I do have my phone, which I am able to access the Internet, but it becomes a pain-in-the-ass to use when my face is melting to Ghostland Observatory! 
and last game I picked up on some subtle tells, I was just off on to what those tells were for, I thought Mafia and not inspector. 
