Mafia 48 carnival of doom rebirth

Not that I think you had any hiden motivation, Duddits. At point in the game, I can't think of a motivation for you to say it with an agenda. Did you have a change of heart or was there something I'm missing?

Well luckily for you SFA, Gandold is driving his ass down to St. Louis in 15 minutes here unless you conveniently forgot that fact too. Let me hit the high (or in this case low points) of LLL and SFA's questions:

First: I. AM. NOT. MAFIA. I know you can't know that unless you ARE mafia, so since I am sick of repeating it, I am breaking it down in crayon for you.

Second, SFA, I understand that you are dyslexic, which is why when you edit, I have no issues with it. Is LLL dyslexic and we didn't know about it? I seem to remember YOU getting pissed off about it in Mafia 45. Either way, it is a single data point and I have repeated it over and over. In this cast, that and post counts are just 2 of many different points I have brought up.

Third, Fake inspector. I find your forgetting about this bizarre, and frankly suspicious given how experienced you are and the fact that last time I brought it up was with YOU in Mafia 46. You can say it is reckless all you want, but in my opinion, that was where she was headed with this, and I refuse to get killed by that bullhonky when I can't defend myself. I used the only defense I had against it that I had. Thats unfortunate that you don't like it, but I will say it again in future games if thats where I see this going.

Fourth, Now you are twisting what I am saying. I have never, not once said my method of playing is 100% accurate. I believe it is a different and better way than sitting back and essentially giving the mafia the first round while waiting for voting patterns, or random @ss guesses some people prefer. If I did not, then I would play on of the other styles that by the way, lost 7 games straight prior to the last two. I was wrong in game 46, but you can argue that the dust kicked up helped you and other pinpoint who was mafia. I have NO problem being wrong if someone can give me a reasoned response.

LLL has not used reason at all. All she said was she thinks people are guilty. It is the same way EAP was playing last game, and I called her on it too. Funny thing is, you never jumped to EAP's defense when I was calling her on her bullhonky.

Fifth and final point, since this is all I have time to write. I always thought you would break towards LLL because of how much you guys wanted to be mafia together. I did NOT expect you to be the one running her defense team. I may be wrong about her. I have admitted this several times, but I find your full on defense combined with an assault on me and the way I play to be a bit suspicious. I also find it bizarre that LLL switched to me following my post saying I will be gone for 3 days, and essentially, unable to defend myself since the mobile app is terrible and I will not have my reference charts with me. And then, you waited until I logged off last night to launch your defense of LLL / Attack of me despite logging off and on several times while I was still on and could react. (BTW, you are not invisible on the mobile app. No one is, and I do watch) Now you are going to go back and say log in times don't matter but in this case, I think they are very relevant. You are going to disagree and say that facts like this don't matter, but it IS a fact, and as i have always done, I will gravitate towards those.

To the other townies in this game, I can only say the same thing I did last game. I cannot be online much the next 3 days, but I feel comfortable if I die in day 1 or night 1 because I think we have a pretty good bead at least on LLL. I have laid out my facts for all of you to take a look at and make your own decisions, which is all I ask. I find SFA's defense of her to be strange, and frankly a little suspicious, and if I had to guess, there is at least 1 mafia member hidden in the quiet folk. I am not trying to be better than any of you, but trying to help as much as I can. It has worked in the past, and even SFA when he takes the LLL blinders off will admit that I was right more often than not last game. It is my 3rd game, so I am still learning, but I put as much or more time into it than most of the experienced players. Ask questions, and make sure people give you answers instead of squirming away. That is the only way to find mafia in round 1 and we need to kill one this round, otherwise our advantage is lost.

I will be checking on my mobile from time to time, but will be unable to do any research or post more than a few lines. Good luck and I hope to see you Sunday. SFA, Gandolf is off!

Alright finally caught up. Keeping my vote the same. First round is a crap shoot of speculations an accusations all based on old games and post counts.

This is why I hate voting partners. We have a bunch of people with one vote, nobody has any reason why they are voting, and nobody is willing to change. That says to me the mafia are completely OK with who has been in the run-off and are just sitting back and trying to let us kill ourselves.

I know I get a bunch of shit for "running games" but this is exactly why I have to do it. If more than 1 or 2 other players were willing to step up I wouldn't have to be so damn vocal. That's why last game after a few more people starting really playing I took a more back seat role.

I don't know why but I feel pretty decent about SFA, Mike D, and Duddits. Other than that I'm not sold on pretty much anything other than I would bet 50 bonnaroo beers that either WVL or LLL is mafia but I'm not sure which. I still really want to see WVL, LLL, and one of the quite people in the run-off. Even if we end up killing the wrong person I think it would provide valuable information later.

I'm going to school now I'll try to keep up as much as possible but I'm pretty busy. I'm trying to get home by at least 3:30pacific so I have some time to catch up and vote before the hockey game starts.

I'm on board with SFA and Bacon. I had started to post about it last night, but I was still stuck on defending myself against Vikings attacks. The bottom rung of voters has at least one quiet, unassuming Mafia lurking and hiding, trying to ride this game out. Perhaps we should cast one of them into a run-off. I still have a hardon for Viking because of the way he is already trying to press on one player so early. That is either just plain foolish, or it is Mafia.

However, Bacon's stacking on top of Mike D and calling his vote suspicious looks like he may have been hoping that he could toss him aside. Not that he was for sure, because now he seems satified with Mike D's reply, but that could also be lip service.

Anytime players start trying to set other specific players up so early, I get a little leary

The real world explanation for my quietness is that I worked Tuesday morning, saw SBTRKT on Tuesday night, worked a nice 14 hour day on wednesday, and a morning shift yesterday. I chimed in yesterday night, and still feel like there's no good reason to change my vote.

It's nothing personal, Mike D, and I honestly don't even feel that suspicious about you anymore, but nothing else has raised any red flags for me yet, and switching my vote randomly will just give the mafia a way to frame me later.

I said this last game when I got voted off, but I'll say it again for those who weren't playing with us... The number one thing I learned is that sticking your neck out for people comes back to bite you in the ass. Therefore, I'm just gonna stay put, and keep watching the voting patterns until next round.

As for being quiet, this is the last time I'll defend myself for it. I was called out for it last game, and I said then, and am saying now...That's just who I am! I don't find the need to post 30 times, 'cause all that's gonna happen is mafia twisting up my words later. When I do post, I will do my research (In future rounds, when there's research to be done), use proper quotes, and explain myself thoroughly! Please, check out the 47 thread if you didn't play with me, and you'll see that I'm being honest!

Viking, I'm curious, what are your facts on me related to this game, and how are your facts different than my facts and SFA's facts? I don't see any facts at all. NONE. I see speculation. And I use graphs and charts as well, but in the first round, there are no facts to go off of to make any reference points. You haven't pointed out any facts out about me. If you have some, please come forward with them so that I may address them

You've thrown the biggest male hissy fit this game that I have ever seen in the history of Mafia. And you are now twisting my words. I didn't say he wouldn't get to see me naked, I'm saying that if your wife were playing, and someone made personal attacks on her, not game attacks, but personal attacks, I hope to god that you would say something. Chivalry is not dead, SFA is full of it. He may not have been defending me because he felt some of the things you said about me were inappropriate, but I'm trying to point out that this is probably why. Twist it up how you like oh master of the spin.

Also, SFA did come to EAP's defense last game, saying it was strange that everyone was stacking votes on her. He does it every game someone is being targeted. So do I. That is why I was defending Mike D.

I know this conversation is targeted more towards personal attacks, but it just triggered a memory: SFA heavily defended me often a few games back. At the end, his reasoning was, "I was mafia, I knew she was innocent."

SFA could be Mafia for all I know. The only other time he let me stay in a runoff was when he was Mafia. I do find it fishy that he let me stay in so long this time. Voting partners don't usually let their voting partners go down like that because the purpose of a voting partner is not to try to get that person voted off. I may be too blinded by his chivalry to see it yet, but it is in the back of my mind. I've been right every single time I've taken a stance on SFA's role in this game. Including when I thought he was Mafia. He was Inspector once, I didn't pick up that he was Inspector by his posts but I could tell that he was a Townie. I could also tell when I played with NBF when she was Mafia. There are subtle things you pick up about people when you play with them a few times. You do it in real life too. You can tell when something it different about the way they are playing.

SFA is not out from under the radar yet, because he left me to go to a runoff until recently, but he does appear townish by his posts thus far.

Viking does a great job of making himself appear Mafia. He manages to do and say the things that one would expect Mafia to be doing and saying but it is so far over the top it is a very dumb Mafia move. The last start of this game started out with him as Inspector, and you could tell that his playing style was so different from his previous ones.

That was the game Lowerdeck first pulled his Dexter Jr. shenanigans. That was a planned mafia strategy to continue to make him look guilty and build trust with the townies. I think it's a little early for any of that at this point.

Plus, that is how I play as a townie, so It was something I had to continue doing as mafia.

Wait.. what? I can get on board with the LD decision as he has been all over Inforoo all day, but yet has only posted in this thread twice in total (and not at all today?), but where did my name come from??


I can accept that.


I honestly don’t really know most of the players styles. I know SFA, LD and Duddits. The rest of you are completely new to me. Granted, I am horrible at analyzing styles and differences, so I don’t know how much of a difference that makes.

I was leaving my vote on you because I was wanting to see if any other players jumped on board to try and get you voted off.

The better strategy would have been not to have said anything because me defending you just makes it likely the mafia had to switch gears(unless you are actually mafia, which means you owe me more naked time for sticking up for you).