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^^agreed. My grandmother used to tell us, "you don't shit where you eat."
I've heard this saying before, and it makes me wonder if it's ever referenced actual shitting/eating, or if it's just always been about the sexin.
Based on a little quick googling, I would guess this originated in the 20th century and only really had this meaning. I dont have any solid proof of that, but it seems most of the slang usage happened in after the 1930's. Though the common noun meaning dates to the 1580s.
How do you intend to move up the corporate ladder if you arent willing to fuck a little?
noo.. he said don't fuck your coworkers. he didn't mention anything about your superiors. that's how you move up! you got something on them. if you're fucking you're coworkers, that's like a lateral move.
How do you intend to move up the corporate ladder if you arent willing to fuck a little?
noo.. he said don't fuck your coworkers. he didn't mention anything about your superiors. that's how you move up! you got something on them. if you're fucking you're coworkers, that's like a lateral move.
My company has multiple couples. Some met at work. Some brought their significant with them.
That being said.....no to co-workers. It's so uncomfortable to watch people you work with fight. And then have to deal with shitty attitudes in the office.
We once had a "couple" who were so dysfunctional (i mean, the guy was in a long term relationship and had a toddler and a baby on the way with her. her not being the girl he was fucking at work.) that they ended up getting into an actual screaming argument with each other in the office and she ran over to him, abandoning her radio, started screaming at him and trying to punch him and had to be physically separated and taken to different rooms. The female half of this is bat shit crazy already and tried to say that he attempted to run her over in the parking lot. She put a protection order against him and they had to move him to a different shift and change his days off.
He ended up getting fired a few months later because he illegally ran the license plate of this other girl he was fucking's boyfriend, took a picture and sent it to him in a text with a message that said, "don't fuck with me" after he found out he was banging is gf.
This is just one story of people fucking at work, everyone at the sheriff's office sleeps with each other and a majority of them are married. I don't understand it.
I told myself after my last relationship that I wanted my next relationship to be with someone who is already self-sufficient financially, has strong boundaries, and shares a decent amount of interests with me. The girl I've been seeing recently is living with her grandparents, describes herself as a malleable person who often takes on the characteristics of the people she's around, and we aren't really into much of the same things other than writing/reading and being internet nerds. We've been friends for a couple years, but really the only times we'd see each other were at parties or whatnot. Apparently she spends most of her free time with the same two friends playing board games, which really isn't my thing.
I enjoy her company though, which is making it difficult for me to tell what I want to do. I never know if I'm being too picky or not really giving people a chance.
My company has multiple couples. Some met at work. Some brought their significant with them.
That being said.....no to co-workers. It's so uncomfortable to watch people you work with fight. And then have to deal with shitty attitudes in the office.
We once had a "couple" who were so dysfunctional (i mean, the guy was in a long term relationship and had a toddler and a baby on the way with her. her not being the girl he was fucking at work.) that they ended up getting into an actual screaming argument with each other in the office and she ran over to him, abandoning her radio, started screaming at him and trying to punch him and had to be physically separated and taken to different rooms. The female half of this is bat shit crazy already and tried to say that he attempted to run her over in the parking lot. She put a protection order against him and they had to move him to a different shift and change his days off.
He ended up getting fired a few months later because he illegally ran the license plate of this other girl he was fucking's boyfriend, took a picture and sent it to him in a text with a message that said, "don't fuck with me" after he found out he was banging is gf.
This is just one story of people fucking at work, everyone at the sheriff's office sleeps with each other and a majority of them are married. I don't understand it.
I work at a zoo.
Just reading this story is panic inducing. I'll take pouting about 400 miles of distance over shit show confrontation any day.
I told myself after my last relationship that I wanted my next relationship to be with someone who is already self-sufficient financially, has strong boundaries, and shares a decent amount of interests with me. The girl I've been seeing recently is living with her grandparents, describes herself as a malleable person who often takes on the characteristics of the people she's around, and we aren't really into much of the same things other than writing/reading and being internet nerds. We've been friends for a couple years, but really the only times we'd see each other were at parties or whatnot. Apparently she spends most of her free time with the same two friends playing board games, which really isn't my thing.
I enjoy her company though, which is making it difficult for me to tell what I want to do. I never know if I'm being too picky or not really giving people a chance.
I usually don't hand out relationship advice but I'm bored at work. Here's my take on every relationship (not just specific to you, Jazmo): no relationship is ever wasted. You learn from each relationship you're a part of, that goes for romantic, friends, parents, etc. You learn what you like and what you don't.
I think we set these ideals for our partners that can be hard to achieve. You know (yes, you do) that you'll never find someone that conforms to your idea of a perfect mate 100%. Should you completely compromise? No. But through relationships, you learn what's important and what's not. I always thought I would never date someone that did not share my taste in music (or go to Bonnaroo for that matter). But then I found someone, and realized that wasn't so important.
You said that you enjoy spending time with her. So enjoy it. Hang out with her. Keep your ideals in the back of your mind, but don't let them cloud your judgment. You may find that enjoying someone's company is more important than someone that has strong boundaries. Your ideals will likely change with each relationship. Just go with the flow.
Post by heyyitskait on Aug 4, 2014 15:12:43 GMT -5
A 30 year old fucked a freshly 18 year old in our coat closet. Which is right next to the 3-bay sinks. While people were still working. She forgot her underwear.
I work in a nursing home kitchen. I wish I could say that was the only place people have had sex in that kitchen.
I told myself after my last relationship that I wanted my next relationship to be with someone who is already self-sufficient financially, has strong boundaries, and shares a decent amount of interests with me. The girl I've been seeing recently is living with her grandparents, describes herself as a malleable person who often takes on the characteristics of the people she's around, and we aren't really into much of the same things other than writing/reading and being internet nerds. We've been friends for a couple years, but really the only times we'd see each other were at parties or whatnot. Apparently she spends most of her free time with the same two friends playing board games, which really isn't my thing.
I enjoy her company though, which is making it difficult for me to tell what I want to do. I never know if I'm being too picky or not really giving people a chance.
My ex once quoted Nick Hornby at me during our break up but I think she was right and that it was excellent advice. It's easy to mistake liking the same things with having things in common.
We really loved the same shit, but we did not have much in common. Like JHOinTN says, take your time and see which it is you have.
A 30 year old fucked a freshly 18 year old in our coat closet. Which is right next to the 3-bay sinks. While people were still working. She forgot her underwear.
I work in a nursing home kitchen. I wish I could say that was the only place people have had sex in that kitchen.
You're breaking the rules. There's absolutely no feelings involved in this post at all.
A 30 year old fucked a freshly 18 year old in our coat closet. Which is right next to the 3-bay sinks. While people were still working. She forgot her underwear.
I work in a nursing home kitchen. I wish I could say that was the only place people have had sex in that kitchen.
We can always rejuvenate this thread with another round of bacon is #foreversingle
There is this cute cashier at Whole Foods that I'm pretty sure has flirted with me twice, but I won't/can't do anything about it
Does Whole Foods sell magazines other than holistic sorts? I can't remember. Can you pick up a magazine there that reflects your interests, ie., a music magazine or something, and ask her if she has read that one or something? Then it opens up a conversation for you to say "Yeah, I just got back for Newport Folk Fest" or, "I'm going to ......soon". I think it may be easier for you to talk to her about something you have passion for.
Or a specialty food item "Have you tried this? Is it good? I had ..... my last trip" Simple, benign, everyday conversation that opens up the door for more conversation.
Also, I realize you are an introvert. I'm an introvert who dresses up like an extrovert because I've learned how to. However, I have been painfully shy for most of my life. Things only changed for me in my late 20's when I learned to take advantage of the times when I feel that I can be more "forward", and it grew from there. But I had some issues with self-consciousness that I had to overcome. Anyway, I know that many of us here on this board have probably told you this, but you are a handsome, intelligent, well-spoken, polite, worldly fellow. Remind yourself of that. She would be lucky to have you flirt back, and likely flattered. Easier said than done, I know, but I can assure you it is worth having a "last call" and someone to take to shows and on your hikes and to turn on to your music and watch her smile with delight over it. Doesn't that sound nice? Totally worth it.
Well I know we are both beer nerds that like good IPAs, that has been what started both conversations we've had. Last time she talked about just getting back from a wedding with Stone IPA on tap at the open bar as I was buying some Stone IPA. More than your normal cashier conversation for sure. But for all I know she is just a friendly person that strikes up conversations with everyone. I have someone like that at work and half of the creeps on campus are obsessed with her. Obviously i know a little flirting or asking for a drink is very different than that but I still have a fear of being the guy that mistakes someone being nice for something more (which really is kind of ironic because i'm actually the guy that doesn't even realize flirting is happening until way to late)
noo.. he said don't fuck your coworkers. he didn't mention anything about your superiors. that's how you move up! you got something on them. if you're fucking you're coworkers, that's like a lateral move.
Speaking from experience?
Nope. I'm a big fan of not messing with people you work with. But if you're going to do it, at least get to move up the ladder... that's all I'm saying
I told myself after my last relationship that I wanted my next relationship to be with someone who is already self-sufficient financially, has strong boundaries, and shares a decent amount of interests with me. The girl I've been seeing recently is living with her grandparents, describes herself as a malleable person who often takes on the characteristics of the people she's around, and we aren't really into much of the same things other than writing/reading and being internet nerds. We've been friends for a couple years, but really the only times we'd see each other were at parties or whatnot. Apparently she spends most of her free time with the same two friends playing board games, which really isn't my thing.
I enjoy her company though, which is making it difficult for me to tell what I want to do. I never know if I'm being too picky or not really giving people a chance.
I usually don't hand out relationship advice but I'm bored at work. Here's my take on every relationship (not just specific to you, Jazmo): no relationship is ever wasted. You learn from each relationship you're a part of, that goes for romantic, friends, parents, etc. You learn what you like and what you don't.
I think we set these ideals for our partners that can be hard to achieve. You know (yes, you do) that you'll never find someone that conforms to your idea of a perfect mate 100%. Should you completely compromise? No. But through relationships, you learn what's important and what's not. I always thought I would never date someone that did not share my taste in music (or go to Bonnaroo for that matter). But then I found someone, and realized that wasn't so important.
You said that you enjoy spending time with her. So enjoy it. Hang out with her. Keep your ideals in the back of your mind, but don't let them cloud your judgment. You may find that enjoying someone's company is more important than someone that has strong boundaries. Your ideals will likely change with each relationship. Just go with the flow.
I still have a fear of being the guy that mistakes someone being nice for something more (which really is kind of ironic because i'm actually the guy that doesn't even realize flirting is happening until way to late)
You should fear being the guy who misses out on 'something more' instead of the fear of asking out a friendly girl. Keep in mind, I never listen to my own advice and I get so comfortable in the 'friend zone' I can never find my way out. If she says no, you can always go to a different checkout lane.
Actually, I would be totally okay with friend zone.
You should fear being the guy who misses out on 'something more' instead of the fear of asking out a friendly girl. Keep in mind, I never listen to my own advice and I get so comfortable in the 'friend zone' I can never find my way out. If she says no, you can always go to a different checkout lane.
Actually, I would be totally okay with friend zone.
This is why you're at 92% or whatever it was....
edit: my point being you should just make a move and ask her out... or her name at least. do you know you name? maybe ask her name first then next time go ask her out. if you're bonding over beer talk, bond over an actual beer. that's a really easy segueway into asking her out.
You should fear being the guy who misses out on 'something more' instead of the fear of asking out a friendly girl. Keep in mind, I never listen to my own advice and I get so comfortable in the 'friend zone' I can never find my way out. If she says no, you can always go to a different checkout lane.
Actually, I would be totally okay with friend zone.
I hate the term "friend zone". It implies that being a friend of a woman should be rewarded sexually or else you're put in this made up negative category.
Actually, I would be totally okay with friend zone.
I hate the term "friend zone". It implies that being a friend of a woman should be rewarded sexually or else you're put in this made up negative category.
There's a lot of guys out there who believe in the ladder theory, whether they realize it or not.
Actually, I would be totally okay with friend zone.
I hate the term "friend zone". It implies that being a friend of a woman should be rewarded sexually or else you're put in this made up negative category.
That's kind of what I was trying to imply. I would love some new close friends that are actually close to me and I certainly don't expect anything from anyone
I hate the term "friend zone". It implies that being a friend of a woman should be rewarded sexually or else you're put in this made up negative category.
There's a lot of guys out there who believe in the ladder theory, whether they realize it or not.
Learn about something new everyday. After reading a brief article about it, I think it sounds like a bunch of asshattery but now I know about it.
I hate the term "friend zone". It implies that being a friend of a woman should be rewarded sexually or else you're put in this made up negative category.
There's a lot of guys out there who believe in the ladder theory, whether they realize it or not.
Exactly. I know I've said it before, there's nothing I cherish more than free will. And the typical idea of the friend zone is I'm not holding up my end of the deal when I don't spread my legs for someone who was nice to me.
JHOinTN I like that advice. I generally have a hard time defining what I will and won't compromise on, because I'm definitely a giver by nature, often to the point of not respecting my own needs when I'm in a relationship. In the past this has lead to me compromising wayyyy too much, and hurting as a result of it. I'm trying to learn from that mistake instead of repeating it; hence my wariness. Since I don't have many dealbreakers, it's easy for me to settle. I don't want to do that again. As for the strong boundaries thing, I just find strong, independent women to be incredibly attractive. I also get turned off when people (in a romantic relationship or otherwise) change their own values and behaviors to conform to me, which I tend to notice when my partner is all googoo gaga for me. I dislike when people try to win my favor. Be your own person; if we're a good match, it'll become evident. Definitely don't treat me like I'm worthless, but if you can demonstrate that you're a happy and self-sufficient with or without me, I'm much more comfortable with and attracted to you. I find it difficult to balance the fact that we're all human and flawed in our own ways with the fact that I have a lot to offer a prospective partner and shouldn't settle or date down.
chicojuarz Could you explain what you meant by that quote, or at least how your experience relates to it? Because while I may share very close values and perspectives with someone, if we don't share a lot of the same interests, it's hard for me to stay engaged/stimulated. While I'll definitely encourage you to explore your hobbies and interests and expect you to support mine, I'm not the type to pretend to be super interested in things that I find boring or unappealing. I wouldn't want for us to be the same person, but I feel like I need a decent bit of overlap in interests. Or maybe I just need to meet someone I like enough to look past all that, because just being with them would be enough? Idk.
bacon What do you have to lose in asking her out? Or maybe: how are you choosing to limit yourself in this situation? Do you want to continue limiting yourself in this way, and if not, what can you do to change it?
bacon What do you have to lose in asking her out? Or maybe: how are you choosing to limit yourself in this situation? Do you want to continue limiting yourself in this way, and if not, what can you do to change it?
In theory I have nothing to lose, I realize that. I have no idea why I limit myself or what to do to change it
JHOinTN I like that advice. I generally have a hard time defining what I will and won't compromise on, because I'm definitely a giver by nature, often to the point of not respecting my own needs when I'm in a relationship. In the past this has lead to me compromising wayyyy too much, and hurting as a result of it. I'm trying to learn from that mistake instead of repeating it; hence my wariness. Since I don't have many dealbreakers, it's easy for me to settle. I don't want to do that again. As for the strong boundaries thing, I just find strong, independent women to be incredibly attractive. I also get turned off when people (in a romantic relationship or otherwise) change their own values and behaviors to conform to me, which I tend to notice when my partner is all googoo gaga for me. I dislike when people try to win my favor. Be your own person; if we're a good match, it'll become evident. Definitely don't treat me like I'm worthless, but if you can demonstrate that you're a happy and self-sufficient with or without me, I'm much more comfortable with and attracted to you. I find it difficult to balance the fact that we're all human and flawed in our own ways with the fact that I have a lot to offer a prospective partner and shouldn't settle or date down.
chicojuarz Could you explain what you meant by that quote, or at least how your experience relates to it? Because while I may share very close values and perspectives with someone, if we don't share a lot of the same interests, it's hard for me to stay engaged/stimulated. While I'll definitely encourage you to explore your hobbies and interests and expect you to support mine, I'm not the type to pretend to be super interested in things that I find boring or unappealing. I wouldn't want for us to be the same person, but I feel like I need a decent bit of overlap in interests. Or maybe I just need to meet someone I like enough to look past all that, because just being with them would be enough? Idk.
bacon What do you have to lose in asking her out? Or maybe: how are you choosing to limit yourself in this situation? Do you want to continue limiting yourself in this way, and if not, what can you do to change it?
I think the quote is more about not over-valuing liking the same things. Realize that having the same taste in a band or books or all those things we first notice arent what you build a full relationship on. In my experience the people I have the closest relationships with often disagree on all sorts of things with me, but like you say I found that I dont care what we're doing as long as we're together while we do it. The number of times I spent the whole day shopping for household goods outnumber all my fingers and toes, but every minute is precisely where I wanted to be (clearly I'm not speaking about my ex). I've never felt like I had to look past it. It's just another opportunity. However, with my ex, we loved shows, went to festivals, read the same books, liked the same art and challenged each other in a thousand ways. But in the end we didnt really have that much in common or really want to spend time together if we weren't doing something we enjoyed. Same taste, not much in common.
There's a lot of guys out there who believe in the ladder theory, whether they realize it or not.
Learn about something new everyday. After reading a brief article about it, I think it sounds like a bunch of asshattery but now I know about it.
I agree with this. Not sure in what context Chico meant it but I think it's good to know a little bit about most things . I appreciate that quality in people.