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Post by 3post1jack1 on Jun 16, 2012 10:09:22 GMT -5
I also feel like Pretty Lights music has some depth, but also agree his name lends a lot to people's perception of him. I didn't realize it had roots in a Pink Floyd reference, that is pretty cool, makes me look at it differently.
I'd like to defend the depth of Deadmau5's music. Personally I think he gets a bad wrap because of the gimmickry: the name, the mau5head, the elaborate light show. And of course his hoard of young fans.
In a lot of ways I think contemporary big name EDM gets judged on the basis of its fanbase, in much the same way its been hard for bands like the Dead and Phish to get love from critical music fans. You take one look at the wook/frat bro fanbase at a Phish show and are immediately turned off. It can seriously make it hard to look into the musicality of a band when you think the fans suck. I'm not being critical here. Sure its a hangup but that doesn't make it any less real.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'm not judging the musical taste judging of any EDM fan here. If you don't like PL/Skrillex/Mau5/Bassnectar purely for musical reasons I believe you. But in some cases of dislike I think the popularity and unsavory fanbase can at least help contribute to that dislike.
For the inforoo record, Most of the people I talked with at bonnaroo12 who were fans of bassnectar/pretty lights/skrillex were girls so I don't know where the bro legion claim comes from. Anyway judge bands by their music, not their fanbase. The music may not be for you but don't just write it off based on appearance.
For the inforoo record, Most of the people I talked with at bonnaroo12 who were fans of bassnectar/pretty lights/skrillex were girls so I don't know where the bro legion claim comes from. Anyway judge bands by their music, not their fanbase. The music may not be for you but don't just write it off based on appearance.
I'm not though, I'm just saying how it got a bad rap.
I dislike all the acts I dislike because I don't think their music has merit.
Post by spacegrass on Jun 16, 2012 13:50:39 GMT -5
My main problem with bassnectar/PL/deadmau5 is that they've already been to roo and in some cases too many times already. We get so few edm acts that a repeat is a wasted slot. I loved oakenfold, sasha/digweed, dj shadow, and rjd2 but I don't want them back if the edm slots are few. Let's see Paul Van Dyk, Chemical Bros, Armin Van Buuren, Carl Cox, or Above & Beyond. Someone big that hasn't been to roo yet.
I'm honestly quite a fan of Pretty Lights' albums. The live show last year did little for me, granted I was at Ratatat for 90% of it, but Pretty Lights seems to get lumped in with a lot of these "bad" acts. I don't claim for a second he's on the same level as Four Tet, Flying Lotus, or Justice, but I think his music is much better than he's given credit for. I don't have any interest in discussing him in the other EDM thread because it's not going to help anyone, nor be of much interest. If you're relatively familiar with EDM then you know Pretty Lights. I don't really see an issue with a thread dedicated to talking about more popular acts that are a notch below some of the more niche artists.
That being said, popular might have been a better word than fun, because almost nobody in the other EDM thread would have a problem with Daft Punk, Justice, or Ghostland Observatory. We all know that Bonnaroo WILL book between 1 and 3 of the following, deadmau5, Justice, Pretty Lights, Bassnectar, Girl Talk, Flux Pavillion, and Skrillex. EDM late night at Bonnaroo is a selling point and these acts are huge sellers. I don't know if I could discuss those 7 (plus 4-5 I forgot) artists in a thread for that long, but if that's the side of EDM that appeals to you then great and here's hoping you get your artist from the list of big selling acts (the correct choice is Justice).
Post by Laggy.RETURNS on Jun 17, 2012 11:21:56 GMT -5
I wanted to set it apart from the other thread. I didn't want to say "popular" because, for one, I didn't want to suggest the acts being discussed in the other thread were NOT popular, because that's not necessarily the case. Also, on this board at least, the acts we're discussing here don't seem very popular at all. And also, I want to be able to discuss any DJ or producers within the given genres. They don't necessarily need to be popular.
Post by 3post1jack1 on Jun 17, 2012 12:19:13 GMT -5
and to further contribute to the dumb/not dumb EDM classification discussion, it was the holy grail of EDM acts, Daft Punk, that are considered brilliant because, well, they write tunes that are big dumb fun.
No one can argue that One More Time is brilliant because of its complexity, or its originality, or its inspiring lyrics: it is brilliant because it is AWESOME. It is a pounding beat and an unforgettable hook and a huge climax that is so infectious that even the most jaded music lover can't help but shake their ass.
Thinking more about it, I think simple genre lines might be an easier way to distinguish what is inforoo popular and inforoo unpopular. Like this thread title says, it is pretty much dubstep and electro that is unpopular here, with all other electronic genres at least having the possibility of being inforoo popular.
Again, please don't interpret my tone of being critical of anyone's musical taste. I'm merely analyzing what I consider to be a fascinating dichotomy in the acceptance of various types of EDM within this community of intelligent and critical music lovers.
Post by BRCHLD LFNT on Jun 17, 2012 13:16:19 GMT -5
Girl Talk in 09 and Bassnectar in 10 are two of my top 10 Bonnaroo shows. Literally mind blowing fun was had.
No ones thrown the name out yet. But Fatboy Slim is one of my top wanted acts for Roo. His set at Ultra was on youtube for a while and he killed it. Put him on Which Stage at 1 a.m. Friday.
This thread can and should be a place to discuss and defend even the shallow and mindless EDM (Skrillex, deadmau5, bloody beetroots come to mind)
But in my strong opinion, I really don't think either bassnectar or Pretty Lights are mindless or shallow, and it kind of irks me when people suggest they are. Pretty lights especially, I think his music has alot of soul. And I think it's really well produced and cerebral. I don't get the attacks against him.
I agree. Pretty Lights is my favorite! I'm sad I missed his set in 2011 at Roo. He's one of the major EDM DJs out right now that I can actually listen to on a regular basis on my headphones at work or in the car. So much soul and so great to just groove to. Add in his light show in a live setting..awesome! I will say, I think he needs some more new songs though, cause I've been listening to a lot of his festival sets lately and they're getting repetitive.
For people who want to talk about DJ's and producers with fun dirty beats that make you want to dance, without being ridiculed by elitist hipsters who use Pitchfork as a guide of what kind of EDM they're allowed to listen to.
Was there ever a time in this country when a hard working man could dislike a popular artist without being labeled an elitist hipster? I don't like Pretty Lights. (DURR HIPSTER!) Sorry to disappoint, it's not about you. It's not because I'm part of some grand conspiracy of tattooed skinny people who sit around the local bike shop deciphering hidden messages in Pitchfork like quacking John Nash so we can be better than all the "normals". I don't like him because I think he's boring, and I came to his decision while attending one of his shows with an open mind, having only heard one or two songs, which I actually rather liked.
I also don't like Skrillex, and I even went to his show this year under the "just go and have fun and don't be a pretentious hipster" advice everyone around here is constantly throwing around. But, due to the pretentious hipster defect I apparently have, it's hard for me to "just have fun" listening to music I don't enjoy.
I do, however, really like Levels and that Calvin Harris/Rihanna song and his whole first album (although I think he's terrible live).
Well there's nothing wrong at all with disliking something. Disliking Pretty Lights or Skrillex doesn't make you an elitist hipster. However, if you think that you are better than those that do like those artists, because you feel like your favorite EDM is much better, and that anybody who does like PL/Skrillex/Bassnectar has an invalid opinion and/or is stupid for liking them, THEN you would be an elitist hipster.
If you can stop by the Skrillex show and think "I don't really like this, but it's cool that others do," that's good. If you go there and think "Wow all these people are friggin morons, how dare they like this drub," then you should check your head (Not referring to you specifically, just people in general).
Personally, I thought the Skrillex set was one of the top two at Roo this year. I also saw Pretty Lights at the end of May and thought he was pretty sweet too. If someone like Bassnectar or Avicii were added next year, I would be thrilled, as I'm sure it would be an awesome time and a huge party. If you don't like an EDM artist they book, I'm sure they'll have someone else you do you like (again, just referring to people in general), so just go there. That's what Roo is all about.
Those suggesting Paul Van Dyke, Carl Cox, Armin Van Burren, etc are just getting their hopes up. Lets be honest, Trance will never go over very well at Bonnaroo. Neither would minimal house for that matter.
Those suggesting Paul Van Dyke, Carl Cox, Armin Van Burren, etc are just getting their hopes up. Lets be honest, Trance will never go over very well at Bonnaroo. Neither would minimal house for that matter.
didn't oakenfold play which in 2009? i've heard people say it was a great set.
Well there's nothing wrong at all with disliking something. Disliking Pretty Lights or Skrillex doesn't make you an elitist hipster. However, if you think that you are better than those that do like those artists, because you feel like your favorite EDM is much better, and that anybody who does like PL/Skrillex/Bassnectar has an invalid opinion and/or is stupid for liking them, THEN you would be an elitist hipster.
If you can stop by the Skrillex show and think "I don't really like this, but it's cool that others do," that's good. If you go there and think "Wow all these people are friggin morons, how dare they like this drub," then you should check your head (Not referring to you specifically, just people in general).
I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not calling people from the other thread elitist hipsters for preferring FlyLo or M83 to Pretty Lights or Bassnectar. I'm calling them elitist hipsters because they try to proclaim that the music they like is the only acceptable electronic music to like, and that we are complete morons with no taste because we enjoy a bass drop. (And, again, I'm referring mostly to the 2012 thread. 2013 has behaved pretty well as far as I've seen)
Those suggesting Paul Van Dyke, Carl Cox, Armin Van Burren, etc are just getting their hopes up. Lets be honest, Trance will never go over very well at Bonnaroo. Neither would minimal house for that matter.
I doubt we'd get any of them, but they're just what I'd love to see on the farm were we to get a big edm act. I disagree on the trance not going over well. We've had sasha, digweed, oakenfold, and tiesto (kinda trance) that have all had great shows.
I think with the word "fun" you're making a distinction though, that the other thread is stuffy and pretentious.
I don't think the other thread is stuffy and pretentious, just simply uninviting to post in based on the title. When the title reads "No PL, Mau5..." it just seems like a long list of no's and I'm not inclined to post. I enjoyed deadmau5 in '10, Pretty Lights in '11 and Skrillex this year so I'd rather discuss it here with people who have similar tastes and talk all sorts of EDM freely. We all have diff interests/tastes so 2 threads should be plenty of space to keep it civil
Any idea how likely is it that we get Justice next year? Are they expected to tour summer fests in 2013? Since this summer was their tour in support of Audio, Video, Disco I was wondering how likely it would be for them to tour again next summer.
I've just started listening to Flux Pavilion. Now I must see this live. Definitely American Dubstep but real clean and professional sounding.
He's one of my favorites. But he's british, fyi.
really? this kind of robotic dubstep sound I've come to associate with American dubstep, whereas when I think british dubstep I think more grimey/dancehall kind of stuff, like rusko/caspa.
regardless its great stuff, very visceral. and it sounds great on my speakers. ;D
really? this kind of robotic dubstep sound I've come to associate with American dubstep, whereas when I think british dubstep I think more grimey/dancehall kind of stuff, like rusko/caspa.
regardless its great stuff, very visceral. and it sounds great on my speakers. ;D
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