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LD - 2 Roo - 1 Viking - 1 MC - 1 Mike D - 1 NoAge - 1 JimmyRoo - 1 Phi - 1 Hakunna - 1
Votes:
Phi >>> Mike D >>> MC Mike D >>> NoAge Roo >> Viking SFA >>> LD Viking >>> Roo Kiko >>> LD NoAge >> Mike D Hakunna >> JimmyRoo MC >> Phi JimmyRoo >> Hakunna
Left to Vote:
LD
Every one has checked in..... let's set a tentative round one time for tomorrow at 6 pm. Will set a more solid time tomorrow by 9 am EDT.
Changing my vote twice in this post. First to SFA for luck, since it has continued to work out. I do not think he has done anything suspicious at this point. It is just force of habit. I actually agree with him, and find it very quiet in here, although it is still Day 1.
I am voting for roo, since for the first time, someone beat me to picking a partner. Roo has played with me enough games to know that I always switch off on day 1 to SFA and then on to another person, making selecting me as a VP a good way to avoid any votes in Day 1. It could just be that we have partnered up before, and that I typically defend him, but at the very least, I think it warrants some discussion.
As far as the Kiko / Phi situation, I would be more willing to chalk it up to a first game issue if Kiko had not seen Phi's post prior to Phi deleting it, but Kiko acknowledged seeing it, and voting for LD anyways. It may just be Kiko's MO since it is his first game, but if it is an MO, and you say you are going to vote the first person to post below you, seems strange to break it right away.
As for Phi, I was wrong about him my first game, so I will let someone else figure out that piece of the puzzle. Like Bacon, he is difficult for me to figure out, since we play the game so much differently.
Post by kikosanchez on Aug 15, 2012 3:07:34 GMT -5
I thought of changing the vote to Phi, but decided it was sort of a technicality by that point. His original intent, as he said, was to trick me into having to vote for myself, which I would've done had his ploy worked. Now that I think about it, LD probably does deserve the vote anyway, just for falling for it lol. If it was some mafia ploy to trick some sorry soul into being voted on, it would have to be the most transparent and visible strategy of all time.
2 things:
1) Can we avoid "roo" as a shorthand name this game? We have both a Roonectar and Jimmyroo. It could get confusing to some.
2) Though it's obvious Phi was just trying to game someone, there probably should be a rule against deleting or modifying old posts unless it's ran by the admin. I could see a situation where an incriminating old post is deleted or modified.
2) Though it's obvious Phi was just trying to game someone, there probably should be a rule against deleting or modifying old posts unless it's ran by the admin. I could see a situation where an incriminating old post is deleted or modified.
There is an unwritten but frequently spoken rule about not editing or deleting. The message is 'it's frowned upon'. It is not a rule as players have differing opinions on the rule and it can/is sometimes used as a game tactic. Edits/Deletes almost always get called out by someone.
I don't know if it was planned out a little bit or just a bitch move Phi. Seems a bit obvious and that may mean your a townie, but why would a townie really go for any kind of trickery like that.
Kiko, dude, are you quacking high? You vote stacked me, and I fell into some trap. Seriously bro?
No need for histrionics. You either read my post and Phi's "placeholder" and saw it coming or not. I really don't care either way. Is it not a fact that someone must start out with 2 votes when there are 11 people? It might as well be arbitrarily done.
I don't know if it was planned out a little bit or just a biznatch move Phi. Seems a bit obvious and that may mean your a townie, but why would a townie really go for any kind of trickery like that.
Mike D >> Phi
lol really?
its quite obvious what i was doing. as a townie, i have no option but to think anyone trying to turn this into some "masterful plan" and then vote for me, is mafia.
I'm at work and will not be home until around 7:30 EST. I almost want to null my vote because I feel this is another first round were the mafia is sitting back letting the townies eat each other alive. I've had good luck switching up the the early leads for the 1st round runoff the last sevearl games. I just don't know where I'd switch my vote.
I know LD ended up being mafia when the townies voted him off early last game. I just don't like the odds of him being mafia AND being placed in the first round runoff two games in a row.
Thoughts? I'll try to get home as soon as I can but if the ref sticks to her deadline I'll respect that as well.
Phi >>> Mike D >>> MC >> Mike D Mike D >>> NoAge >> Phi Roonectar >> Viking SFA >>> LD Viking >>> Roonectar >> SFA >> Roonectar Kiko >>> LD NoAge >> Mike D Hakunna >> JimmyRoo MC >> Phi JimmyRoo >> Hakunna LD >> Kiko
Thoughts? I'll try to get home as soon as I can but if the ref sticks to her deadline I'll respect that as well.
Dont want to rush anyone.. If there is active conversation about the game (not just BS-ing) and vote movement, it will stay open. Will try to be clear about 'tentative' vs. deadline. Also I try to accommodate schedules without too much impact.
As SFA suggested - i respect the Null vote and take that to mean that a player wants more time. Use it judiciously, not willy nilly all- the- time please
if i was mafia, why in the world, would i delete a post on day 1, to "frame" someone else and bring attention to myself?
obviously i knew people would know i deleted it. no mafia in the right mind would do this.
if you really are a townie, i suggest you think over your vote again, and i'll do the same.
First off when I read your post it really didn't cross my mind that you were just going to delete it like that, i guess that's part of the reason too for my vote. You have played this game before and should also know that doing crap like that will typically get you votes, especially in the first round when there isn't much to go on other than whims and grudges from previous games. I don't intend to hold my vote for you through a runoff or anything, but someone has to be the one to double up votes and I saw a reason to, temporarily at least.
First round is a crapshoot but ensuing confusion draws a red flag for me because its pretty much the only thing that's happened besides who has partnered up
It said "Placeholder" after kiko said he'd vote for the next person to post. Once someone posted after me I deleted the post so that person would then become the next post rather than me.
I don't want to associate myself with Phi too much because I don't like his gameplay so far, but I do agree that it doesn't make much sense for a mafia to do what he did - making a post and then deleting it/causing mass confusion.
Then again, I wouldn't be opposed to voting for him to just remove a complicating player from the game.
This line of thinking is why LD, Myself, and a few others get tossed into the runoff and have the mafia take runs at us. JimmyRoo, it is your first game here, but almost every time I hear this, it is coming from a mafia member trying to enhance their odds.
I would like to see JimmyRoo and Phi both in the runoff, especially after Phi's last message, where he admits he tricked LD into getting stacked. I am willing to bet that between them, there is a mafia member, especially after the level of participation went up once the runoff was set.
After that, Kiko seeing Phi's message, but still voting for LD still bothers me, as does Roonectar voting for me, knowing I was going to move off to SFA. I think roonectar is a better choice, since Kiko is largely an unknown.
Otherwise, I am good with a 4 person runoff. Those have worked out for the townies recently, and I am always a fan of them.
you do realize I didnt stack against LD right? how would I be able to predict who was going to post after me?
like i said earlier, and you obviously didnt read, the plan was for kiko to vote for me, then id delete my post and tell kiko he'd have to vote for himself.
Forgot to mention, Phi has deleted posts in the past, as recently as Mafia 45 (his second to last game) that made him look extremely guilty and potentially cost the townies the game, since the mafia used it against him and muddied the water. (although he came out as inspector on Day 1 that game) Food for thought, but he has a habit of doing this and distracting us from finding the mafia.
Forgot to mention, Phi has deleted posts in the past, as recently as Mafia 45 (his second to last game) that made him look extremely guilty and potentially cost the townies the game, since the mafia used it against him and muddied the water. (although he came out as inspector on Day 1 that game) Food for thought, but he has a habit of doing this and distracting us from finding the mafia.
wrong again.
i have never, in the history of mafia, deleted a post.
what are you trying to do here viking?
edit: edited, yes, just like this post
Last Edit: Aug 15, 2012 17:56:03 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
you do realize I didnt stack against LD right? how would I be able to predict who was going to post after me?
like i said earlier, and you obviously didnt read, the plan was for kiko to vote for me, then id delete my post and tell kiko he'd have to vote for himself.
No, I read your post, but LD posted while the placeholder was up. Kiko stacked, but you have to admit that LD is a usual target due to how he plays.
I do not follow why Kiko would have to vote for himself, but maybe I am just not in a laughing mood due to some things going on in my life right now.
you do realize I didnt stack against LD right? how would I be able to predict who was going to post after me?
like i said earlier, and you obviously didnt read, the plan was for kiko to vote for me, then id delete my post and tell kiko he'd have to vote for himself.
I do not follow why Kiko would have to vote for himself.
really?
if he posts after me
just like LD did
then i delete my post
then he's the next person to psot after his post stating he's going to vote for the next person to vote.
Roo - 1 Mike D - 1 JimmyRoo - 1 Hakunna - 1 Kiko - 1
Votes:
Phi >>> Mike D >>> MC >> Mike D >> Viking Mike D >>> NoAge >> Phi Roonectar >> Viking SFA >>> LD Viking >>> Roonectar >> SFA >> Roonectar Kiko >>> LD NoAge >> Mike D Hakunna >> JimmyRoo MC >> Phi JimmyRoo >> Hakunna LD >> Kiko
Forgot to mention, Phi has deleted posts in the past, as recently as Mafia 45 (his second to last game) that made him look extremely guilty and potentially cost the townies the game, since the mafia used it against him and muddied the water. (although he came out as inspector on Day 1 that game) Food for thought, but he has a habit of doing this and distracting us from finding the mafia.
wrong again.
i have never, in the history of mafia, deleted a post.
what are you trying to do here viking?
edit: edited, yes, just like this post
Wrong Game, right person. Mafia 42, when you came out as inspector on Day 1, around page 7 after RDK did it.
I am trying to find a mafia member. As I said earlier, I was wrong about you before, so I am not switching my vote, but in that game you hurt the townies too. If it was a joke, it really was not a funny one, since it could potentially be hurting us this game as well.
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