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Post by champagne cory on Nov 16, 2012 3:09:48 GMT -5
The festival market is over saturated. People are starting to question why they would travel 8 hours to see bands and camp in 100 degree heat when they can wait a couple months, see half the bands for half the ticket price, but sleep in their own bed. The market is over saturated and festivals will soon be on the down swing. In fact I am starting to do that myself. I can get a Lolla and North Coast ticket for about the same price as a Bonnaroo ticket and see the majority of the same bands without ever having to leave my city, therefor saving money on gas, camping supplies, food, and sleeping in my own bed each night. By these companies putting on multiple festivals throughout the country, they are only hurting themselves. The Big Three need to unite for a couple years to start putting some of these other small festivals out of business so that we as consumers will reap the benefits when Lolla, Coach or Roo book Roger Waters, Daft Punk and RATM on the same card.
The festival market is over saturated. People are starting to question why they would travel 8 hours to see bands and camp in 100 degree heat when they can wait a couple months, see half the bands for half the ticket price, but sleep in their own bed. The market is over saturated and festivals will soon be on the down swing. In fact I am starting to do that myself. I can get a Lolla and North Coast ticket for about the same price as a Bonnaroo ticket and see the majority of the same bands without ever having to leave my city, therefor saving money on gas, camping supplies, food, and sleeping in my own bed each night. By these companies putting on multiple festivals throughout the country, they are only hurting themselves. The Big Three need to unite for a couple years to start putting some of these other small festivals out of business so that we as consumers will reap the benefits when Lolla, Coach or Roo book Roger Waters, Daft Punk and RATM on the same card.
Great idea and sharp point! Instead of the 3 festivals competing against each other, if they got together and created a short term plan to 'hog' the larger acts from the smaller festivals, it would make the Big 3 rise in prominence. The music festival options are definitely over saturated, and most everyone likes the idea of going to these 'big 3' type festivals...more to hear, more to see, more to do.
The festival market is over saturated. People are starting to question why they would travel 8 hours to see bands and camp in 100 degree heat when they can wait a couple months, see half the bands for half the ticket price, but sleep in their own bed. The market is over saturated and festivals will soon be on the down swing. In fact I am starting to do that myself. I can get a Lolla and North Coast ticket for about the same price as a Bonnaroo ticket and see the majority of the same bands without ever having to leave my city, therefor saving money on gas, camping supplies, food, and sleeping in my own bed each night. By these companies putting on multiple festivals throughout the country, they are only hurting themselves. The Big Three need to unite for a couple years to start putting some of these other small festivals out of business so that we as consumers will reap the benefits when Lolla, Coach or Roo book Roger Waters, Daft Punk and RATM on the same card.
I like traveling to festivals because I can't sleep in my own bed.
'Roo is definitely still one of the "big 3." It's location is definitely a part of it not sellin' out all at once like Coachella. But I like that. If you don't want an adventure, don't take the trip.
The festival market is over saturated. People are starting to question why they would travel 8 hours to see bands and camp in 100 degree heat when they can wait a couple months, see half the bands for half the ticket price, but sleep in their own bed. The market is over saturated and festivals will soon be on the down swing. In fact I am starting to do that myself. I can get a Lolla and North Coast ticket for about the same price as a Bonnaroo ticket and see the majority of the same bands without ever having to leave my city, therefor saving money on gas, camping supplies, food, and sleeping in my own bed each night. By these companies putting on multiple festivals throughout the country, they are only hurting themselves. The Big Three need to unite for a couple years to start putting some of these other small festivals out of business so that we as consumers will reap the benefits when Lolla, Coach or Roo book Roger Waters, Daft Punk and RATM on the same card.
I like traveling to festivals because I can't sleep in my own bed.
Not gonna lie, if I could take my bed to roo, I would!
ACL has Austin with 2 mil and San Antonio, Dallas, and Hous ton all near by.
Comparing ACL and Bonnaroo is like comparing apples and oranges. ACL is primarily a series of club gigs stretched through downtown Austin. It's not a festival in the Roo sense. It's a helluva more complicated to get wristbands and/or passes to see certain bands at ACL too. I prefer Roo anyday and I've only been once ... so far.
I like traveling to festivals because I can't sleep in my own bed.
Not gonna lie, if I could take my bed to roo, I would!
I like roughin' it at 'Roo, but that may just be that I haven't been able to take some nice amenities with me in years passed. Also I've learned how to better camp over the years. But I think I might spring at least fer a decent air mattress next year if I can afford it.
'Roo is definitely still one of the "big 3." It's location is definitely a part of it not sellin' out all at once like Coachella. But I like that. If you don't want an adventure, don't take the trip.
How do people figure it's the location? I seem to recall the fest selling out just fine multiple times. Obviously sometimes the location doesn't matter, so maybe it's just a problem of somewhat lackluster lineups combined with the location.
Its been explained multiple times in the thread. Coachella is in one of the highest populated areas in the US. Outside of Nashville, the nearest major city is 3+ hours away from roo.
And the festival selling out is a combination of multiple things. Back in 03-07, there wasn't an over saturation of big music festivals there is today. Reunion acts like the Police definitely drive the festival to sell out
Bonnaroo really couldn't be in a better location considering it's centrality. Most people I meet there seem to drive anywhere from 2-12 hours, buts its still far more accessible than Coachella for non-West Coasters.
Coachella sell outs have just as much to do with it's appealing setting then anything which really sets it apart from any other American festival. Plus one-offs, reunions, more EDM, ridiculous undercards, celebrities, etc..
I still consider it the big two, Coach and Roo. Sure Lolla and ACL are great and all but festivals without camping just really don't provide the experience I'm looking for.
Bonnaroo really couldn't be in a better location considering it's centrality. Most people I meet there seem to drive anywhere from 2-12 hours, buts its still far more accessible than Coachella for non-West Coasters.
I have to quibble with Bonnaroo being in a better location. An informal and unscientific investigation of metro areas within 300 miles of the festival locations using Google Maps and Wikipedia:
LA (18 million people) to Coachella = 128 miles San Diego (1.3 million) to Coachella = 131 miles Phoenix (4.2 million) to Coachella = 247 miles Las Vegas (2 million) to Coachella = 278 miles
Nashville (1.7 million) to Bonnaroo = 65 miles Atlanta (5.3 million) to Bonnaroo = 187 miles Birmingham (1.1 million) to Bonnaroo = 195 miles Louisville (1.2 million) to Bonnaroo = 237 miles Memphis (1.3 million) to Bonnaroo = 275 miles
Coachella is close to metro areas of about 25.5 million people. Bonnaroo is close to metro areas of about 10.6 million people. It defiitely is better positioned to sell out.
I will agree that Bonnaroo is more convenient for East Coasters than Coachella but I think that Coachella is generally convenient for more people.
Bonnaroo really couldn't be in a better location considering it's centrality. Most people I meet there seem to drive anywhere from 2-12 hours, buts its still far more accessible than Coachella for non-West Coasters.
LA (18 million people) to Coachella = 128 miles San Diego (1.3 million) to Coachella = 131 miles Phoenix (4.2 million) to Coachella = 247 miles Las Vegas (2 million) to Coachella = 278 miles
Nashville (1.7 million) to Bonnaroo = 65 miles Atlanta (5.3 million) to Bonnaroo = 187 miles Birmingham (1.1 million) to Bonnaroo = 195 miles Louisville (1.2 million) to Bonnaroo = 237 miles Memphis (1.3 million) to Bonnaroo = 275 miles
Coachella is close to metro areas of about 25.5 million people. Bonnaroo is close to metro areas of about 10.6 million people. It defiitely is better positioned to sell out.
What about the numerous other cities Bonnarooers come from? Notice I said 2-12 hour drive. Just look around Inforoo, we all represent the countless cities attendees regularly flock from. Sure, those regions mentioned make up a large majority of it's ticket sales but what about Texas, Louisiana, the Carolina's, Mississippi, Florida, Virginia, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New England, New York, and those friendly Canadians?
Yearly I meet plenty of people from the locations I listed. Personally I know LOADS of Texans that go every year. There's an abundance of opportunity where it's situated and lots of people willing to make the trip.
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'Roo is definitely still one of the "big 3." It's location is definitely a part of it not sellin' out all at once like Coachella. But I like that. If you don't want an adventure, don't take the trip.
That's good, but I've always been partial to "Buy the ticket, take the ride"
LA (18 million people) to Coachella = 128 miles San Diego (1.3 million) to Coachella = 131 miles Phoenix (4.2 million) to Coachella = 247 miles Las Vegas (2 million) to Coachella = 278 miles
Nashville (1.7 million) to Bonnaroo = 65 miles Atlanta (5.3 million) to Bonnaroo = 187 miles Birmingham (1.1 million) to Bonnaroo = 195 miles Louisville (1.2 million) to Bonnaroo = 237 miles Memphis (1.3 million) to Bonnaroo = 275 miles
Coachella is close to metro areas of about 25.5 million people. Bonnaroo is close to metro areas of about 10.6 million people. It defiitely is better positioned to sell out.
What about the numerous other cities Bonnarooers come from? Notice I said 2-12 hour drive. Just look around Inforoo, we all represent the countless cities attendees regularly flock from. Sure, those regions mentioned make up a large majority of it's ticket sales but what about Texas, Louisiana, the Carolina's, Mississippi, Florida, Virginia, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New England, New York, and those friendly Canadians?
Yearly I meet plenty of people from the locations I listed. Personally I know LOADS of Texans that go every year. There's an abundance of opportunity where it's situated and lots of people willing to make the trip.
Right. I'm not saying people don't choose to come to Bonnaroo from further away. (I personally have driven from New York seven times and Virginia twice.) Undoubtedly the same can be said of Coachella.
My point is that there is a larger population base close by Coachella which does not require driving more than four hours, making it an easier festival to commit to and thus an easier location for the festival organizers to sell out.
Since I'm from Canada it's rare to mention Bonnaroo and have someone know what you're talking about. When I elaborate and tell people it's a music festival they always immediataly come back and say, "O like Coachella". I then say... no not like Coachella.
I think of Bonnaroo like my religion now. I didn't even hear about it until I was in the Bahamas when I was 24, and it was another 3 years before it ever got brought up again... but from everything I had heard about it from before, when I was asked to go I said yes immediately.
I read in the Bonnaroo book about a music writer saying how he had covered 10 Bonnaroo's, and how that equated to a month of his life has been spent on the farm. Tingles went up my spine and I was instantly jealous. Roo 13 will only be my 3rd year, but Bonnaroo is already part of my life everyday.
It's the people at Roo that make Roo what it is, and because of those people, in my eyes Bonnaroo will always be #1. If you're a true Roo'er, you already have your tickets before even a hint of who's going to be playing there, which means your going for another reason.
Post by pondo ROCKS on Dec 2, 2012 20:18:52 GMT -5
I still put Bonnaroo as one of the big 3 for the vibe alone. Roo gets rare acts as well as Coach does. The environment and weather situations keep a lot of people from going to the farm but it still does great numbers each year.
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Since I'm from Canada it's rare to mention Bonnaroo and have someone know what you're talking about. When I elaborate and tell people it's a music festival they always immediataly come back and say, "O like Coachella". I then say... no not like Coachella.
I think of Bonnaroo like my religion now. I didn't even hear about it until I was in the Bahamas when I was 24, and it was another 3 years before it ever got brought up again... but from everything I had heard about it from before, when I was asked to go I said yes immediately.
I read in the Bonnaroo book about a music writer saying how he had covered 10 Bonnaroo's, and how that equated to a month of his life has been spent on the farm. Tingles went up my spine and I was instantly jealous. Roo 13 will only be my 3rd year, but Bonnaroo is already part of my life everyday.
It's the people at Roo that make Roo what it is, and because of those people, in my eyes Bonnaroo will always be #1. If you're a true Roo'er, you already have your tickets before even a hint of who's going to be playing there, which means your going for another reason.
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oh my god CKS the kitten in your sig is the best thing in the world!
I knowwwwwwwww, right?! Hypnotizing cuteness.
Second only to that girl that was in somebody's sig last year. I think she was in a crowd at a football game and all of a sudden realized she was on camera.
Second only to that girl that was in somebody's sig last year. I think she was in a crowd at a football game and all of a sudden realized she was on camera.
Damn I didn't want to get drawn into this thread !!!! I just like lurking. The difference between Bonnaroo and the other majors is the hippies. Roo brings in more hippies than the others. Hippies = better vibe. There's nothing pretentious about Bonnaroo.
I don't have time and money to go to every smallish, scattered fest so Roo is what I spend my time and money on since it is large and centralized. Not sure what other fest comes close in this quadrant of the US.
BTW I don't go to a fest to bar hop and rent hotel rooms for $$$$$ a night.
With all the recent competition from festivals all over the US, is Bonnaroo still part of thr big three with Coachella and Lollapalooza. Personally, I find the vibe and people at the Bonnaroo to be the best among these fests, however, in recent years Coachella, Lolla, and even Ultra/Hangout/ACL have all made huge strides.
If were looking at facilities, grounds, production value, and overall amenities Coachella is hands down the winner, and I would even go as far as saying they get more of the exclusive rare acts Roo misses out on. Also, their EDM is top notch for the most part.
Lolla has created a great fest with probably the biggest and most mainstream friendly lineup. Also, their location is beautiful and convenient to a major metro area. Their staging and EDM production value is again top notch.
Now, Bonnaroo, is by far my favorite due to its friendly town square type community vibe. We get probably the most diverse lineup and also have the longest sets. Roo is open 24 hours and really delivers the true Euro fest experience. The issue in recent years has been the lack of EDM, safety in the campground, and weather. Weather cannot be controlled so whatever but it seems like theres been an increase in crime in the campgrounds. Also, 2012 was the worst attended Roo in awhile, while fests like Coachella and Ultra are expanding to meet the demand.
By looking at numbers alone it looks like Roo will no longer be part of the big 3, for good or for bad. With Ultra and Coachella expanding to 2 weekends and Lolla and EDC having a higher capacity are we going to see Roo become less important on the festival circuit?
The production at Rothbury/ Electric Forest is LIGHT years ahead of any of the "big 3".
The talent a festival books and the actual production of a festival are very different.
The production value of the Sherwood Forest is above and beyond anything you will ever experience. I have done two Roos (2005 and 2010), so not shitting on it in anyway.
The Forest this year was really spectacular. Two bars, countless house/cabin/chill areas, art exhibits/eye candy to the extreme and even hired sexy female mimes along with tons of other people dressed up who were hired by the festival to make you laugh, cry and freak out lol.
I review festivals for Jambase and Relix.com, been to almost every "big" one across this great land.
