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For what it's worth, I went back through several games to see who has been voted off the first round. There have been several posts about easy targets and so forth, figured I would take a look back myself. Here is what I found.
I figured this was a good place to stop because in game 45 we had a player who had to remove themselves for extenuating circumstances outside of the game/inforoo. Take this how you want, I know some of you were talking about only who is in runoffs, not necessarily the final vote. I also know that most of these folks don't play every game.
I don't have any strong cases or hunches on either Hakunah or LD, it seems discussion is mostly over, and I don't see anyone really debating switching other than possibly SFA. If something else comes up or I see a reason to I may, but for now just trying to keep the game moving . . . .
I agree with you SFA. I was considering changing my vote back to LD as well, but I'll make that decision after we have an updated tally. I'm not sure if anyone is left to vote.
I trust the Quacker/EAP/Kiko faction more than the Bacon/NBF/Roonectar one. (Not to say y'all have exhibited ties to each other. I just notice that you are the ones who are pretty set on your votes and not switching around a lot like Me, SFA, Mike D, etc.).
I usually don't switch a lot unless something really suspicious is going on. The more you switch the easier it is for mafia to make shiz up
Post by NothingButFlowers on Jan 27, 2013 15:01:00 GMT -5
I was thinking about switching to LD, but now with Jimmy's switch, that would make LD 7 and Hakuna 4.
I tend to agree that Hakuna having 7 votes all on him at one point makes him seem less guilty, and the same could be said of LD. I think what others have said that it seems likely that both are innocent.
If one of the two was mafia, I think the swing of going from Hakuna having the majority to LD having the majority would make me more inclined to believe someone might be protecting Hakuna, so that is why at this point I'm okay with keeping my vote the way it is.
I'm a townie guys. If you want to kill me, it's your loss. What do I need to say to make y'all think I'm not suspicious and not mafia?
I don't think you are mafia, just the votes before I switched made it pretty clear that Hakuna probably isn't. Unless, the mafia was sitting back hoping on some switches.
Post by kikosanchez on Jan 28, 2013 11:57:23 GMT -5
Or everyone that was siding with LD is already doing so and has given up on trying to save him. Just seems too weird that 7 people were stacked on Hakuna. Whatever the deal, at least we get someone that was playing suspiciously and saved a good townie.
Or everyone that was siding with LD is already doing so and has given up on trying to save him. Just seems too weird that 7 people were stacked on Hakuna. Whatever the deal, at least we get someone that was playing suspiciously and saved a good townie.
Paint it any way you want but I haven't "sided" with anyone. I put my vote on LD as a voting partner and had no solid legitimate reason to move it off of him to Hakuna. I think the most suspicious thing I've seen in the game so far is you seeming to know who is a Townie and who isn't. That is just bullsh*t. When 8 of the players have no idea who is a Townie except themselves a lopsided vote can be just that and not stacking. If you are a Townie you are falling into the worst line of thinking a Townie can have - a certainty that another player is assuredly a Townie.
By order of the king, upon advisement from the town, Lowerdeck is sentenced to death!
He is suspected of lewd behavior, grave robbery, goat buggery, rape, and murder in association with a nefarious, subversive organization. Since his crimes have not been proven, and he has not confessed, the town has decreed that he shall be boiled alive in order to soften his tongue. God is the path of eternal salvation and he demands repentance!
Let all those who associate with the shadow organization learn from this and repent immediately! The town is ever watchful and they will find you.
Or everyone that was siding with LD is already doing so and has given up on trying to save him. Just seems too weird that 7 people were stacked on Hakuna. Whatever the deal, at least we get someone that was playing suspiciously and saved a good townie.
Paint it any way you want but I haven't "sided" with anyone. I put my vote on LD as a voting partner and had no solid legitimate reason to move it off of him to Hakuna. I think the most suspicious thing I've seen in the game so far is you seeming to know who is a Townie and who isn't. That is just bullsh*t. When 8 of the players have no idea who is a Townie except themselves a lopsided vote can be just that and not stacking. If you are a Townie you are falling into the worst line of thinking a Townie can have - a certainty that another player is assuredly a Townie.
I've said again and again that Hakuna is a better townie player. LD doesn't add as much, so it makes sense to keep Hakuna alive over LD, all other things being equal. It's not deciding who is town or not, it is prioritizing reasons to vote for one or the other when there really isn't much to go on, as is the case on the first day. Still not sure why anyone would have wanted Hakuna gone over LD, given everything that was known. But obviously a fair number of people did, with really no good reasons, which I find suspicious.
Paint it any way you want but I haven't "sided" with anyone. I put my vote on LD as a voting partner and had no solid legitimate reason to move it off of him to Hakuna. I think the most suspicious thing I've seen in the game so far is you seeming to know who is a Townie and who isn't. That is just bullsh*t. When 8 of the players have no idea who is a Townie except themselves a lopsided vote can be just that and not stacking. If you are a Townie you are falling into the worst line of thinking a Townie can have - a certainty that another player is assuredly a Townie.
I've said again and again that Hakuna is a better townie player. LD doesn't add as much, so it makes sense to keep Hakuna alive over LD, all other things being equal. It's not deciding who is town or not, it is prioritizing reasons to vote for one or the other when there really isn't much to go on, as is the case on the first day. Still not sure why anyone would have wanted Hakuna gone over LD, given everything that was known. But obviously a fair number of people did, with really no good reasons, which I find suspicious.
You didn't say "Hakuna us a better Townie player". You said "We saved a good Townie". Big difference and I'm voting you next round Kiko. If you're not Mafia you're in the same boat as LD. Bad Townie.
We really don't wanna do down the road of voting off people because they are being "bad townies." That's just playing right into the mafia's hands. Assuming the people being discussed are actual townies. But I think you know what I'm getting at.
We really don't wanna do down the road of voting off people because they are being "bad townies." That's just playing right into the mafia's hands. Assuming the people being discussed are actual townies. But I think you know what I'm getting at.
Also, what the crap is taking so long?
I'll keep my cool but my point is valid. The only person I'm going to assume is innocent is whoever gets whacked tonight. Which is taking quite awhile.
The sun peers through the smoke as it rises on a new day. The townspeople are saddened to learn that NothingButFlowers died this past evening.
Apparently, she angered the shadowy mafia, and was killed for her transgressions. Her screams echoed out of her burning hut, as her light was extinguished from the world. Let this be a warning to the rest of the townsfolk. Cross the mafia, and you will burn too.
I have mostly kept to myself of this "bad townie" conversation, but it does seem to come up game after game, i'd like to give my piece on it. I have seen many of us, myself included, have really bad games. Just because you have one or two, you don't need to be considered a bad townie from then on out. I have seen both Hakunah and LD name the correct mafia members as a townie. I think it was LD's 2nd or 3rd game, it seemed general consensus that he was only playing to fake inspector as a townie. There was a running joke that he hadn't killed off any mafia with his antics, but surely enough he took a shot late in the game when he was playing more seriously and named the three mafia that game. Voting someone off for being a "bad townie" is just downright shitty. If you If you don't want to play the game with them, don't sign up to play the game with them.
Well, nows as good of time as anything as I think I have things figured out. I got my first guess right. I'm inspector. Bacon was my given name. And MikeD was my guess. Jimmy the reason I jumped on you Day 1 was because Bacon voted for me and I though he may be on to me. I basically just picked you because I thought you were a townie and might be able to save myself from being whacked. My guess, Kiko is the 3rd. He voted for bacon as a distancing move. When I questioned why NBF stacked Kiko, bacon switched to me. I think he thought i had Kikos name. Following Quackers lead I don't really get Kiko defending me so much either. Glad you guys kept me alive and hopefully you guys beleive me. I'm ready to field any questions. As for this round, I think we just get it done with and kill Bacon or Mike and then work on Kiko/3rd, we would still be us 4 townies to 1 Mafia.
Well that gives us a lot to think about. My take on NBF getting killed is to get rid of a very experienced player. Hakuna, why the MikeD guess? Shot in the dark?
Well that gives us a lot to think about. My take on NBF getting killed is to get rid of a very experienced player. Hakuna, why the MikeD guess? Shot in the dark?
I think you're right about the experienced played part, I also think her Kiko vote played a part in it.
Part shot in the dark, part the voting partners with Bacon. I know Bacon and EAP usually are voting partners so i thought something fishy was going on and it sort of sat in the back of my mind. Ill be completely honest, there was something else that set my guess in stone very early on but I completely forget what. I was pretty set on him being my guess pretty early on once Bacon came after me.
