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Just out of curiosity how many times have you two listened to Dr Dogs last three albums and what were your thoughts on those?
I had a friend who was into them so I heard We All Belong, Shame and Fate more often than you'd imagine. I think they have one more recent one though? I don't know. Anyway, I thought it was pretty run of the mill semi-folky faux-Americana type stuff. Like you know how if you go to the store and buy Chips Ahoy, chunky Chips Ahoy, M&M Chips Ahoy and Caramel Swirl Chips Ahoy, they all taste like slightly different but are pretty much just Chips Ahoy? I mean I guess if you like pre-processed mass produced cookies then they're alright, but they all taste more alike than they do different.
I'm not going to argue the point. I get where you are coming from but i disagree. Have you ever seen them live?
When they released the "Broken Heart" video I liked it but not as much as "The Truth" but now it has become one of my favorites on the album. Lyrically great and has a real nice groove. Definitely reminiscent of Fate and older material. I imagine it's a particularly great live track.
As far as them at Roo it seems like it has to happen. My only concern is I think they end up on which or what. I would much prefer closing a tent or a tent late-night. I know it's very unlikely after PTM playing last year but my dream would be a Dr Dog > PTM latenight tent
Post by itrainmonkeys on Sept 22, 2013 12:41:43 GMT -5
Would definitely prefer a tent or late night set. I've seen some decent day shows on the What and the Which but I'm always slightly disappointed when I see bands I like getting those daytime slots.
Here's Dr. Dog at the small show I went to a couple weeks back playing Broken Heart (supposedly for the first time) live:
I agree with you both. That ptm slot would be a likely spot for Dr. Dog if they played 2014, and that this is something to be feared because it really decreased my enjoyment of ptm's set this year.
Post by batmansbrother on Sept 22, 2013 19:48:24 GMT -5
^ Yeah last time Dr. Dog came to my town they played at this tiny club and that was like, in May? I'm not sure, it was definitely recent. The point is they aren't playing at big venues. I could see them playing at night in a tent. Beach House's spot or Wolfgang Gartners spot. I don't know honestly I'm just chatting like the rest of you.
Maybe Tucson is just extra hip to Dr Dog? I saw them in 08 and 2010 at the same club that has a 350 person capacity. They came through last year and sold out the same 1500 person venue Vampire Weekend is playing next week
Maybe Tucson is just extra hip to Dr Dog? I saw them in 08 and 2010 at the same club that has a 350 person capacity. They came through last year and sold out the same 1500 person venue Vampire Weekend is playing next week
They played a 250-person venue in NYC like 2-3 weeks ago. It sold out, but selling out a 250 person venue in NYC is as difficult as walking onto the street and yelling "hey, who wants to see a free concert" 3 or 4 times.
Maybe Tucson is just extra hip to Dr Dog? I saw them in 08 and 2010 at the same club that has a 350 person capacity. They came through last year and sold out the same 1500 person venue Vampire Weekend is playing next week
They played a 250-person venue in NYC like 2-3 weeks ago. It sold out, but selling out a 250 person venue in NYC is as difficult as walking onto the street and yelling "hey, who wants to see a free concert" 3 or 4 times.
True, but they don't usually play that size of venue in NY. I've seen them play bigger places and the 250 person thing was sort of a surprise warm up show for the tour (they announced it the day tickets went on sale, played some new songs live for the first time) and because they didn't have an NYC date on the tour they were starting. It's not like that's the only venue they can play. They've had sold out shows at the 3,000 person capacity Terminal 5 (which they played last March).
Just out of curiosity how many times have you two listened to Dr Dogs last three albums and what were your thoughts on those?
I had a friend who was into them so I heard We All Belong, Shame and Fate more often than you'd imagine. I think they have one more recent one though? I don't know. Anyway, I thought it was pretty run of the mill semi-folky faux-Americana type stuff..
Their last album, Be the Void, while not my favorite, was actually a very guitar driven album and may have show the band in a different light compared to what you knew them as. I'm actually surprised that after seeing them live you still considered them to be a faux-Americana type band. Their live shows always had more of a jam / psychedelic rock vibe to them IMO. Regardless you should check the new album out; tons of stripped down soul.
"This was a straight-up construction project," says Dr. Dog's Toby Leaman, referring to the B-room, a crucial fixture of the new recording studio that he and his bandmates built early this year in a converted silver-smith mill outside Philadelphia. B-Room also happens to be the title of his band's eighth LP, which comes out on October 1st.
"Really, we did back-to-back projects," Leaman says. "The first part is being completely amusical – not having anything to do with songs or playing or recording techniques or performances. Before we even got to the project we were supposed to be working on, we'd already completed this other one that we were really psyched about. Everybody pitched in and did good work."
This literal hands-on approach kick-started a much-needed creative re-boot. Dr. Dog have always been revered for the deft, fluid interplay of their live shows, blending funk with roots-rock and psychedelia – but their previous albums are mostly sonic patchworks, pieced together through extensive overdubbing and demoing. B-Room offers a simpler, more organic approach to songcraft, a truer reflection of Dr. Dog's strengths as a band playing together in a room.
"Even while the build was going on, people were showing each other music," Leaman says. "Everybody'd already been hanging out. It was really loose. It wasn't like we hadn't seen each other in a few months and needed to catch up. It wasn't like, 'OK, let's start recording.' We just eased into that. It's the first time we just played for about two weeks – not aimlessly but without any intent, without saying, 'These could be the foundations for songs.' It was just, 'Let's see how many feels we can do; get it onto tape and see what it sounds like.' It was really freeing that way."
The studio became a second home for the band – and understandably so. A 5,000-square-foot pseudo-mansion covered in large windows, the space itself features two bedrooms, two bathrooms, multiple storage rooms, a main "chill room" with kitchen and couches, a control room, tracking room and the titular B-room, where band members would work out ideas while others were busy recording (or hanging out) elsewhere.
"There was a period of time where I didn't leave the studio for two weeks," says co-frontman Scott McMicken. "If you kinda just felt stale musically, somebody else could be inspired and could work," Leaman adds. "And you wouldn't just be sitting there pulling your hair out – you could actually go do some physical labor in the studio and still feel like you're doing something. You don't want to a do a guitar solo? Then sweep!"
In the past, Leaman and McMicken have always served as the band's two-headed captain, writing and demoing the material with the other members (guitarist Frank McElroy, drummer Eric Slick, multi-instrumentalist Dimitri Manos, keyboardist Zach Miller) adding their respective parts. With six members, all of whom play multiple instruments, it's tough satisfying everyone's creative impulses. But B-Room is collaborative in a new way, stripping back to a soulful, bare-bones approach. McMicken references the striking simplicity of old blues music, while Leaman emphasizes the importance of "establishing a role" and contributing to the project in whatever way possible.
"The point wasn't getting everybody on tape at the same time," Leaman says. "The point was getting everybody playing at the same time so everybody felt like they were all playing together. We could just go punch in certain areas, but everybody was already playing to the feel. [That way] you're not overplaying, and you're not overthinking. We've all been playing together for so long, and everybody understands that it's a very malleable process. You might have only done one tiny thing on a song or even nothing, but you were there. You added to it at some point. Just having everybody playing together is so freeing."
That camaraderie is evident throughout B-Room, from the sparse soulfulness of "The Truth" to the spooky spontaneity of "Minding the Usher," which originated from a late-night jam-session. But the most exemplary track is "Too Weak to Ramble," a powerful ballad sung by Leaman, backed by only acoustic guitars and McMicken's fragile harmonies.
"We'd decided we were definitely going to do that song live, just me and him," Leaman says. "I'm gonna play the guitar and Scott's gonna play the guitar, and here's the vocal take. Scott and I have been working together for over 20 years, and it's taken us this long to go into that world. It takes a certain level of confidence in a song, too."
"I felt the pressure just sitting next to him," McMicken adds. "It makes me well up every time I hear it now."
"We've been recording together for so long," says Leaman. "And we've always layered stuff and overdubbed and are very specific about arrangements. We know we can do that stuff; we trust each other enough to do that stuff. But it was nice to know that we don't have to do that to make something good. We can make something really bare-bones, and if we do it right, it works that way, too."
"A lot of times, we'll go into the record, and whatever stated intent gets forgotten pretty easily. With this one, we actually accomplished what we were trying to do, which is a great feeling."
Post by nodepression on Oct 1, 2013 8:38:58 GMT -5
"10.0 AOTY. The whole thing has a beautiful soul feel, mostly stemming from the bass lines. In general the songs seem more restrained than the last two albums. Less layers, more serious lyrics, and just an overall less playful vibe. I wouldn't expect you or many others to understand why this is such a fantastic album."- Baconfork
Post by Billadelphia on Oct 1, 2013 10:30:50 GMT -5
Loving the album. I enjoyed it when I listened to the stream, but coming back for the 3rd and 4th listens now and it's definitely paying dividends. For my tastes, this album is much better than Be The Void. Not many lulls in this album either, almost every track is superb. The transition from Cuckoo > Twilight is certainly one of the more intriguing track to track changes I've ever heard from them.