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Just like Lionel wasn't going to be there and Billy Joel was?
Seriously, why do you argue this shit? You're wrong, no big deal, but arguing things when you're clearly wrong is pretty irritating.
Dude, Insider said that Lionel was only considered a headliner to her, because of the time slot. I was basing my statement off of that.
Oh great sheriff of the Internet
I think I've been pretty respectful in this exchange, no condescension necessary.
And also, based on Insider's use of the word "headliner" in the past, she considers pre-headliners to be "headliners." Look through her posts, every pre-headliner she ever gave us was called a "headliner." She considers the What Stage act before the unopposed headliner to be a "headliner." Regardless of our understanding of the word, that's how she uses it.
Lionel being a "headliner" simply means he's playing before an unopposed set, that's it. It's not talking about an actual time, just their spot on the What Stage schedule.
I'm glad I'm not missing it, because I'm hoping for some sick late nights (really the best thing Roo has going) and for a once in a lifetime show like the D'Angelo superjam. Im just not a huge fan of the folky/americana/jammy stuff, and it seems like that is what distinguishes bonnaroo from its peers this year. Acts like Yonder Mountain arent popping up at Coachella or Lolla, but I also have no desire to see them.
I know what you mean, but I'd say what distinguishes Bonnaroo from its peers this year (so far) is having Kanye's first festival set since the release of Yeezus instead of Outkast (who will probably be at every other major festival).
I didn't know Lolla had Superjams or Elton John. Or comedy for that matter!
I think this was quietly the most insightful exchange of thoughts relating to the lineup thus far. Let me preface by saying that I think this years lineup is stacked. However, each year Roo's lineups are continually becoming a little more mainstream. Davidbyrnesbutler makes a good point, but a handful of acts out of 130 total do not do much to differentiate festivals from each other. In particualr, if you removed Elton John and the two superjams and replaced them with Justin Timberlake and a couple top 40 pop acts, this year's lineup, particularly the top third, is about what I expect to see at Lolla. I know there is a little us/them mentality on this board with respect to other major festivals, so let me be clear that I don't mean this statement as a negative criticism. Think about it. Roo never really sells out. Sure, they send out a message a week before the festival starts saying it's sold out, but this is at a point where 1. there is not time to ship wristbands and 2. the secondary market probably overtakes all of the direct sales. Lolla, on the other hand, sells out in a couple of hours. Obviously, Roo wants to increase ticket sales. Why else create all of that "Bonnaroo Experience" marketing to go along with the lineup announcement. Do Lolla or Coachella ever advertise? (btw, I watched the whole BLAM lineup release stream and thought it was fantastic. The guy/gal who put that together deserves a high five/raise). My point is this, if Lolla lineups sell out, why not make Roo lineups more similar to help improve sales. Seems like smart business to me.
Just want to offer a friendly opinion...
I hear what you're saying, but there are some BIG reasons why Lolla sells out, whereas Bonnaroo doesn't. The lineup is the last of those reasons. Take into account the fact that Lolla happens in Chicago and Bonnaroo happens in the middle of nowhere in Tennessee. Chicago has a built in population big enough to sell out any show or arena; Bonnaroo has a tiny little town of locals to draw from. Add in the fact that Bonnaroo is a camping festival (I don't care about the 1% that spends money on local hotels)... it is a MUCH bigger commitment to drive across the country and camp for 4 nights than it is to just go out to Denny's after the last show on the way to your hotel. Many people can't take it... in fact at my first Roo, my then girlfriend left after the first night- she couldn't take camping in the Tennessee heat.
Bonnaroo doesn't need to make the lineups "more similar" to attract more of an audience. There is no reason they HAVE to sell out. End of the day, they always top 80,000 paying customers... The farm doesn't need to attract more than that. Bonnaroo has done well, and they show no signs of stopping... no reason to change the formula. Keep the uniqueness that makes the farm so special.
I'm glad I'm not missing it, because I'm hoping for some sick late nights (really the best thing Roo has going) and for a once in a lifetime show like the D'Angelo superjam. Im just not a huge fan of the folky/americana/jammy stuff, and it seems like that is what distinguishes bonnaroo from its peers this year. Acts like Yonder Mountain arent popping up at Coachella or Lolla, but I also have no desire to see them.
I know what you mean, but I'd say what distinguishes Bonnaroo from its peers this year (so far) is having Kanye's first festival set since the release of Yeezus instead of Outkast (who will probably be at every other major festival).
Well, I somewhat agree, but Kanye is in the midst of the Yeezus tour. I've only seen him the once on this tour, but I can't imagine that the version of "Black Skinhead" he'll play at Bonnaroo is all that different from the one I saw in Brooklyn. He's also doing an extended setlist on this leg of the tour, so I'd assume that those songs get worked in at Bonnaroo.
I kind of agree on Outkast, in that if I were seeing them at Sasquatch or some fest in June I'd be less enthused, but getting to witness the first moment they're back on stage, for the first show in 10 years? I don't know if there's anything that could conceivably top the joy that idea is producing in my heart.
Of course Outkast might wind up being shit, who knows.
Of course Outkast might wind up being shit, who knows.
Oh man....could you imagine if that very first show goes terribly for some reason? They have to win people over big time with that first set. I believe they will but who knows what could happen.
but getting to witness the first moment they're back on stage, for the first show in 10 years? I don't know if there's anything that could conceivably top the joy that idea is producing in my heart.
I know what you mean, but I'd say what distinguishes Bonnaroo from its peers this year (so far) is having Kanye's first festival set since the release of Yeezus instead of Outkast (who will probably be at every other major festival).
Well, I somewhat agree, but Kanye is in the midst of the Yeezus tour. I've only seen him the once on this tour, but I can't imagine that the version of "Black Skinhead" he'll play at Bonnaroo is all that different from the one I saw in Brooklyn. He's also doing an extended setlist on this leg of the tour, so I'd assume that those songs get worked in at Bonnaroo.
I kind of agree on Outkast, in that if I were seeing them at Sasquatch or some fest in June I'd be less enthused, but getting to witness the first moment they're back on stage, for the first show in 10 years? I don't know if there's anything that could conceivably top the joy that idea is producing in my heart.
Of course Outkast might wind up being shit, who knows.
To be honest, I was clamoring for an Outkast reunion as loud as anybody. But for some reason, at this point, I have a feeling the reunion shows might be subpar. The fact that they're playing just about every festival in the world (even mid-tier to smallish ones like Counterpoint and Big Guava) has me suspecting that the stage production won't be anything special, since those smaller festivals will be able to handle it. I could be totally off, but for some reason the fact that they're playing so many festivals has me concerned that the show won't be as special as I'd always hoped an Outkast reunion would be. I hope I'm wrong, since I'm a massive Outkast fan, but it's just a gut feeling I have.
EIther way, my point was that Kanye instead of Outkast offers potential Bonnaroo attendees the chance to see something they probably won't see at other festivals this year (although, as you said, he is in the midst of a US tour for Yeezus).
Well, I somewhat agree, but Kanye is in the midst of the Yeezus tour. I've only seen him the once on this tour, but I can't imagine that the version of "Black Skinhead" he'll play at Bonnaroo is all that different from the one I saw in Brooklyn. He's also doing an extended setlist on this leg of the tour, so I'd assume that those songs get worked in at Bonnaroo.
I kind of agree on Outkast, in that if I were seeing them at Sasquatch or some fest in June I'd be less enthused, but getting to witness the first moment they're back on stage, for the first show in 10 years? I don't know if there's anything that could conceivably top the joy that idea is producing in my heart.
Of course Outkast might wind up being shit, who knows.
To be honest, I was clamoring for an Outkast reunion as loud as anybody. But for some reason, at this point, I have a feeling the reunion shows might be subpar. The fact that they're playing just about every festival in the world (even mid-tier to smallish ones like Counterpoint and Big Guava) has me suspecting that the stage production won't be anything special, since those smaller festivals will be able to handle it. I could be totally off, but for some reason the fact that they're playing so many festivals has me concerned that the show won't be as special as I'd always hoped an Outkast reunion would be. I hope I'm wrong, since I'm a massive Outkast fan, but it's just a gut feeling I have.
EIther way, my point was that Kanye instead of Outkast offers potential Bonnaroo attendees the chance to see something they probably won't see at other festivals this year (although, as you said, he is in the midst of a US tour for Yeezus).
I'm going to wager that the stage setup Outkast uses for their first show back in a decade is not the same as what they use at Big Guava, whatever that is. It's not unheard of for acts to modify their show based on the venue. Unless you think that Kanye West is creating a mountain on the What stage, or that he's going to use the set up from his Governor's Ball show.
And I agree with you that Kanye is (at this time) a unique festival act for Bonnaroo.
Well, I somewhat agree, but Kanye is in the midst of the Yeezus tour. I've only seen him the once on this tour, but I can't imagine that the version of "Black Skinhead" he'll play at Bonnaroo is all that different from the one I saw in Brooklyn. He's also doing an extended setlist on this leg of the tour, so I'd assume that those songs get worked in at Bonnaroo.
I kind of agree on Outkast, in that if I were seeing them at Sasquatch or some fest in June I'd be less enthused, but getting to witness the first moment they're back on stage, for the first show in 10 years? I don't know if there's anything that could conceivably top the joy that idea is producing in my heart.
Of course Outkast might wind up being shit, who knows.
for some reason the fact that they're playing so many festivals has me concerned that the show won't be as special as I'd always hoped an Outkast reunion would be.
exactly. i was so excited about them doing an reunion, and at first when we thought it'd be coach and one other fest i had big dreams about it being roo. but after finding out that they're doing 40 fests, the allure went away somewhat.
i'm probably just rationalizing my disappointment here though.
I don't really understand that attitude. People seem plenty happy for Neutral Milk Hotel, who isn't half as awesome as Outkast, and NMH have played what, about 60 shows since un-retiring? If your excitement for Outkast was connected to how exclusive of an act they were on their first reappearance in a decade, then you probably shouldn't bother seeing them anyway.
I don't really understand that attitude. People seem plenty happy for Neutral Milk Hotel, who isn't half as awesome as Outkast, and NMH have played what, about 60 shows since un-retiring? If your excitement for Outkast was connected to how exclusive of an act they were on their first reappearance in a decade, then you probably shouldn't bother seeing them anyway.
i'm not sure if this is directed towards me or not, but i'll answer anyways.
it wasn't only the exclusivity of them that i was excited for, it was that it was going to be this super special thing. they're playing everywhere now so it makes me think that that whatever their show is going to be it won't be anything too complicated/special which lessens the blow of missing them.
i'm not saying i wouldn't love to see outkast, because i would LOVE to see outkast. hell, I'm contemplating volunteering at firefly just for them if i can get the days off work. but if it ends up just being them on stage playing my favorite songs, then a live stream will suffice. whereas if it turns out to be this super amazing show that really connects with the audience then i'll be so disappointed that roo didn't get them.
it is all about where you place your expecations. if you have low expectations it is harder to be disappointed.
To be honest, I was clamoring for an Outkast reunion as loud as anybody. But for some reason, at this point, I have a feeling the reunion shows might be subpar. The fact that they're playing just about every festival in the world (even mid-tier to smallish ones like Counterpoint and Big Guava) has me suspecting that the stage production won't be anything special, since those smaller festivals will be able to handle it. I could be totally off, but for some reason the fact that they're playing so many festivals has me concerned that the show won't be as special as I'd always hoped an Outkast reunion would be. I hope I'm wrong, since I'm a massive Outkast fan, but it's just a gut feeling I have.
EIther way, my point was that Kanye instead of Outkast offers potential Bonnaroo attendees the chance to see something they probably won't see at other festivals this year (although, as you said, he is in the midst of a US tour for Yeezus).
I'm going to wager that the stage setup Outkast uses for their first show back in a decade is not the same as what they use at Big Guava, whatever that is. It's not unheard of for acts to modify their show based on the venue. Unless you think that Kanye West is creating a mountain on the What stage, or that he's going to use the set up from his Governor's Ball show.
I'm glad they are not there. I am fan of their music, but their last set at Bonnaroo was pretty lame. It is one of the most phoned-in sets I've ever seen anywhere. I'm still pissed at myself for bailing on Plant for them. People think Kanye is not worthy of a return, but doing a set with obvious disinterest is a worse offense.
edit: I will say that the crowd did bring the entertainment value up for this set with the dancing shaaman and a lot of nude dancing.
I've watched the video of their bonnaroo set almost 100 times, it was great. I guess if you don't get/like the whole Strokes persona it's not good, but I thought they were awesome
im with you, got into the pit for the set, it was my first time (finally) seeing the strokes and i thought they were amazing. im a huge fan though so i may be a little biased. all of my friends thoroughly enjoyed the set as well. dont really understand the criticism of the set.
